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Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:10 am
by Lightning McQueen
Jim05 wrote:I just refuse to believe that Boland won’t be on the plane to India even as just a precaution. This is a bloke who is one of the all time leading SS wicket takers despite playing the bulk of his career on a low, flat and lifeless road at the MCG.

I feel the same way, I just don’t think he’s going. I’d prefer to be wrong, I was once.

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:11 am
by Brodlach
Just take 17 instead of 16 and if necessary leave one of the support staff home.

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:16 am
by The Bedge
I read somewhere last tour they took a squad of 18 which included 7 batters, 2 all-rounders, 1 specialist keeper, 4 frontline quicks and 4 specialist spinners.

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:20 am
by Brodlach
Realistically they can get someone over in 24 hours

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:32 am
by Armchair expert
Is there a limit on how many they can take?

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:38 am
by Booney
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket ... 5cbq5.html

Australia have confirmed an 18-man squad for the upcoming India series which includes four spinners and the return of Peter Handscomb but not opening batsman Marcus Harris.

As forecast on Tuesday, Australia will take four spinners — Nathan Lyon, Ashton Agar, Todd Murphy, Mitch Swepson — for the team’s first Test tour to India since 2017.


Australian squad for four-Test India series
Pat Cummins (NSW/Penrith Cricket Club) (c)
Ashton Agar (WA/University Cricket Club)
Scott Boland (VIC/Frankston Peninsula Cricket Club)
Alex Carey (SA/Glenelg Cricket Club)
Cameron Green ((WA/Subiaco-Floreat Cricket Club)
Josh Hazlewood (NSW/St George Cricket Club)
Peter Handscomb (VIC/St Kilda Cricket Club)
Travis Head (SA/Tea Tree Gully Cricket Club)
Usman Khawaja (QLD/Valley District Cricket Club)
Marnus Labuschagne (QLD/Redlands Cricket Club)
Nathan Lyon (NSW/Northern District Cricket Club)
Lance Morris (WA/Scarborough Cricket Club)
Todd Murphy (VIC/St Kilda Cricket Club)
Matthew Renshaw (QLD/Toombul District CC)
Steve Smith (NSW/Sutherland Cricket Club) (vc)
Mitchell Starc (NSW/Manly Warringah Cricket Club)
Mitchell Swepson (QLD/Sandgate-Redcliffe Cricket Club)
David Warner (NSW/Randwick Petersham Cricket Club)

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:46 am
by Lightning McQueen
F*** me, is there going to be anyone left in Australia?

I don’t see the point in taking Swepson or Morris but oh well, not sure Murphy or Handscomb will do anything besides running drinks out either.

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:48 am
by Booney
Lightning McQueen wrote:F*** me, is there going to be anyone left in Australia?

I don’t see the point in taking Swepson or Morris but oh well, not sure Murphy or Handscomb will do anything besides running drinks out either.


Peter Handscomb has suffered an injury scare playing club cricket on Tuesday night and is under a cloud for next month’s tour of India.

Handscomb was named in an 18-man Australian squad on Wednesday as a batting reserve and back-up wicketkeeper but will now need to be assessed by medical staff before being passed fit to travel with the squad in a couple of weeks’ time.

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:48 am
by Corona Man
Lightning McQueen wrote:F*** me, is there going to be anyone left in Australia?

I don’t see the point in taking Swepson or Morris but oh well, not sure Murphy or Handscomb will do anything besides running drinks out either.

The extra spinners will be handy net bowlers.

Handscomb, probably just getting the FF points on his Qantas account.

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:51 am
by Armchair expert
Specialist cordial mixer Marcus Harris snubbed

Morris would be better off playing shield cricket he isn't getting a game.

If Carey gets injured Hanscomb is the replacement :vom:

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:54 am
by Lightning McQueen
Corona Man wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:F*** me, is there going to be anyone left in Australia?

I don’t see the point in taking Swepson or Morris but oh well, not sure Murphy or Handscomb will do anything besides running drinks out either.

The extra spinners will be handy net bowlers.

Handscomb, probably just getting the FF points on his Qantas account.

Yeah, get to face Agar one day, Ashwin the next

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:58 am
by Corona Man
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Corona Man wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:F*** me, is there going to be anyone left in Australia?

I don’t see the point in taking Swepson or Morris but oh well, not sure Murphy or Handscomb will do anything besides running drinks out either.

The extra spinners will be handy net bowlers.

Handscomb, probably just getting the FF points on his Qantas account.

Yeah, get to face Agar one day, Ashwin the next

Well I guess you can't pick what you don't have.

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:10 am
by Jim05
FMD, I want whatever he is on

Selector George Bailey quoted as:

“Ashton Agar continues to impress following his comeback in Sydney and we believe left-arm finger spin will play an important role in Indian conditions.”

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:12 am
by Lightning McQueen
Corona Man wrote:Well I guess you can't pick what you don't have.

Absolutely, if you don’t have you’re better off working to your strengths, personally, I wouldn’t play any of our spinners besides Lyon, Swepson going is a friggin joke, he’s proven that he is shit over there, Agar proved it in Sydney.

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:13 am
by Lightning McQueen
Armchair expert wrote:Specialist cordial mixer Marcus Harris snubbed

Morris would be better off playing shield cricket he isn't getting a game.

If Carey gets injured Hanscomb is the replacement :vom:

I’m not upset at Harris’ omission

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:16 am
by Trader
I think for the first time in a while we have some options for over in india.
If we get a pitch that has some pace and bounce (dreaming, I know), then we could see a bowling attack of Lyon, Cummins, Starc and Hazlewood (Boldand in to cover Starc if unfit).
If we get a genuine turner, we could see Cummins the only quick (with Green assuming he's fit), and then Lyon, Agar and one of Murphy/Swepson.
If we get to a point in the series were we are struggling to bat long enough, we could even play the extra bat, especially if Green is fit. Go in with Cummins, Lyon, Agar (or a quick), Green, Head, Smith and Labuschange.

Despite the options, I think we'll go with a fairly standard side.

5 bats: Khawaja, Warner, Labuschange, Smith, Head.
Green at 6, and if not fit, they'll play a genuine bat, Renshaw / Handscomb the only two spare bats in the squad.
Carey at 7.

Then with the bowlers, I think they'll play 2 spinners, and 2 quicks.

Lyon and Cummins are both locks obviously.
Agar the first in line as the 2nd spinner given he's a lefty and Starc will play if fit, Hazlewood his backup.

So that gives you the following:

Khawaja
Warner
Labuschange
Smith
Head
Green / Renshaw
Carey
Agar
Cummins
Starc / Hazlewood
Lyon

That 13 man squad is really the starting xi, plus the two covers for injury.

Then you've got concussion replacements ready to go in Handscomb (bat), Murphy (spin), Boland (pace).
Swepson and Morris don't really seem to have a purpose on the tour.

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:20 am
by Lightning McQueen
Jim05 wrote:FMD, I want whatever he is on

Selector George Bailey quoted as:

“Ashton Agar continues to impress following his comeback in Sydney and we believe left-arm finger spin will play an important role in Indian conditions.”

He did say “following”. He may have done something after the Sydney test because he sure as hell did nothing during it, I think he got a 1/10.

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:24 am
by Lightning McQueen
Trader wrote:I think for the first time in a while we have some options for over in india.
If we get a pitch that has some pace and bounce (dreaming, I know), then we could see a bowling attack of Lyon, Cummins, Starc and Hazlewood (Boldand in to cover Starc if unfit).
If we get a genuine turner, we could see Cummins the only quick (with Green assuming he's fit), and then Lyon, Agar and one of Murphy/Swepson.
If we get to a point in the series were we are struggling to bat long enough, we could even play the extra bat, especially if Green is fit. Go in with Cummins, Lyon, Agar (or a quick), Green, Head, Smith and Labuschange.

Despite the options, I think we'll go with a fairly standard side.

5 bats: Khawaja, Warner, Labuschange, Smith, Head.
Green at 6, and if not fit, they'll play a genuine bat, Renshaw / Handscomb the only two spare bats in the squad.
Carey at 7.

Then with the bowlers, I think they'll play 2 spinners, and 2 quicks.

Lyon and Cummins are both locks obviously.
Agar the first in line as the 2nd spinner given he's a lefty and Starc will play if fit, Hazlewood his backup.

So that gives you the following:

Khawaja
Warner
Labuschange
Smith
Head
Green / Renshaw
Carey
Agar
Cummins
Starc / Hazlewood
Lyon

That 13 man squad is really the starting xi, plus the two covers for injury.

Then you've got concussion replacements ready to go in Handscomb (bat), Murphy (spin), Boland (pace).
Swepson and Morris don't really seem to have a purpose on the tour.

As much as I’m not a Renshaw fan, I can see the fascination in him, the flexibility of being able to bat anywhere makes a lot of sense to take him

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:38 am
by Corona Man
What was Warne's test bowling record like in India? I seem to recall not all that flattering. If the best ever was average in Indian conditions, the likes of Agar, Swepson & co don't stand a chance. So what's the alternative bowlers... just toil away with 3 quicks, Green & Lyon. If there's room to take them it's worth a shot. Have the selectors missed a trick by not taking Kuhnemann?

Re: Australian tour of India 2023

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:39 am
by Brodlach
Personally think if Green doesn’t play they need an extra bowler, Sydney Test showed that.