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Stumps wrote:Yes the pitch is flat. Which is why we shouldn't have enforce the follow on. With vic having something to chase there was always more chance of getting the 20 wkts. Who cares if they won outright
Thought it was a Bad decision at the time and was proven

Geez no pleasing some of you - last week it was abuse because the 'backs didnt enforce the follow on, this week it's because they did!

Phantom Gossiper wrote:

Stumps wrote:Yes the pitch is flat. Which is why we shouldn't have enforce the follow on. With vic having something to chase there was always more chance of getting the 20 wkts. Who cares if they won outright
Thought it was a Bad decision at the time and was proven

Geez no pleasing some of you - last week it was abuse because the 'backs didnt enforce the follow on, this week it's because they did!

Haters gonna hate

With amount of cricket the first class cricketers are playing I think the days of enforcing the follow on are long gone, the rest between innings is to valuable to the bowlers.

Especially these days where the fast bowlers don't necessarily sit down at fine leg in between overs are they are expected to be more accountable in the field

mal wrote:

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Fair enough.

I'm saying SA isn't disadvantaged by the pitch.

Pitch is the same for both sides. SA has the worst shield record in the history of the game.

Think Think Think
YES the pitch is the same for both sides
Both sides bat well at Adelaide oval
Whats does this mean ?
Harder to get 6 point results


LAST SEASON
LOOK at the results in Tasmania last season
Both sides batted on a crapp pitch in the games in Tassie
Bowlers dominate from both sides
Easier to get 6 point games

I cant make this any clearer

2 1/2 day games in Tassie dictated by sloppy green tops where either team can crumble and give up 6 points Vs Adelaide Oval where teams have to earn an outright victory by batting, bowling and fielding well.

Some would say the cricket purist in you* has disappeared.

Perhaps the other states should prepare wickets that make teams earn 6 points rather than make it almost a fait accompli that 6 points comes out of the game?

Keep in mind, just because Tassie prep up sloppy green tops doesn't assure them the 6 points.

would help us to bowl sides out if Botha didnt bowl himself for 1000 overs each match

scoob wrote:would help us to bowl sides out if Botha didnt bowl himself for 1000 overs each match

How much have you actually seen him bowl?

Brodlach wrote:

scoob wrote:would help us to bowl sides out if Botha didnt bowl himself for 1000 overs each match

How much have you actually seen him bowl?

Never actually seen him bowl....













seen him throw plenty

Sack the Curator FFS.....

Did Berry bring him in from Victoria aswell?

Saw 2 games last season where there was give in the Adelaide Oval pitch at the end of the season
Very low scoring games for Adelaide Oval
Last season there were 4 outrights and one game on first innings
SA greatly improved on recent seasons and almost made a SS final in 2012/2013

But this season the pitches seem to be much flatter
Last game v VI the pitch looked very flat on the 4th day
Reports are its been flatter this season than last season
By virtue SA has won 3 games outright on the road , and played very very well at this stage of the season

Drop in pitch?

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Drop in pitch?

Dunno what goes on with the drop in pitches
Maybe after least year there was a directive to have a better batting one this season ?

Been told Mr Darren Berry said on radio last season that some other pitches around Australia were doctored for results ?
Mr Berry said the onus was on states to produce better wickets to produce better cricketers for National duty ?

mal wrote:

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Drop in pitch?

Dunno what goes on with the drop in pitches

They don't seem to break up much. MCG has been using them for a few years now. 15 years ago (or there bouts) the MCG pitch used to be very hard to bat on during the 4th and 5th days. Very up and down. These days it just seems to get drier, but still play pretty even.

My take on the drop ins is this.

They dont have any winter sport on them so have complete, consistent depth grass cover. So consequently are flat as.

Pitches with footy played on them will generally be a little patchy, especially early, so variable bounce as well as variable pace is common. These wickets tend to break up more when its dry too as the cracks are worse where there is no root system to hold it together.

Unless an absolute greeny is made then get used to big first innings scores.

Drop in pitches!!!

Did Ian McLachlan not promise us they would be no different to the old Adelaide Oval pitches?
From what I understand there is a big difference between the two with drop in pitches not breaking up like the old pitches.
All the drop in pitches in Australia have not been good for SS cricket or test match cricket they come up OK for 20/20 and 50 /50 but come up short with the longer game.

Don’t know much about the currant curator at the oval other than seeing him on TV every now and again, but has he any experience in drop in pitches?
I know from seminars that SACA have run over the years and listening to him present Les Burdett’s former 2ic was sent around Australia and over seas by SACA to learn about drop in pitches and producing different pitches, Don’t know what he is doing now but he is no longer working at the Oval.

For the sake of good cricket we can only hope that the curator gets it right and can produce a pitch that has some thing in it early for the bowlers than flatten out for the batters and take spin later in the game.

BillyBunter wrote:Drop in pitches!!!

Did Ian McLachlan not promise us they would be no different to the old Adelaide Oval pitches?
From what I understand there is a big difference between the two with drop in pitches not breaking up like the old pitches.
All the drop in pitches in Australia have not been good for SS cricket or test match cricket they come up OK for 20/20 and 50 /50 but come up short with the longer game.

Don’t know much about the currant curator at the oval other than seeing him on TV every now and again, but has he any experience in drop in pitches?
I know from seminars that SACA have run over the years and listening to him present Les Burdett’s former 2ic was sent around Australia and over seas by SACA to learn about drop in pitches and producing different pitches, Don’t know what he is doing now but he is no longer working at the Oval.

For the sake of good cricket we can only hope that the curator gets it right and can produce a pitch that has some thing in it early for the bowlers than flatten out for the batters and take spin later in the game.

Are you saying Damian Hough has left? I dont think that is the case at all.

BillyBunter wrote:Don’t know much about the currant curator at the oval other than seeing him on TV every now and again, but has he any experience in drop in pitches?

I heard he was very grapeful to get the job.

Burdett’s former 2ic was Boxy ( not sure of his first name)
He was Burdett’s under study for 20+ years and traveled interstate and overseas with him to work on projects.
He use to come out to grade grounds and give advice to local curators.

i heard earlier in the year that brand new drop in pitches seem to hold together extremely well, and take a few seasons to "settle"

question that im not actually sure of - is the pitch the same every single year? i.e is that grass the same grass that goes in year after year?

my first comment seems to answer my question but if thats the case, do they ever change the soil over?

bennymacca wrote:i heard earlier in the year that brand new drop in pitches seem to hold together extremely well, and take a few seasons to "settle"

question that im not actually sure of - is the pitch the same every single year? i.e is that grass the same grass that goes in year after year?

my first comment seems to answer my question but if thats the case, do they ever change the soil over?

Once the pitch is built, thats it. You may get some grass replaced in the crease area, but from season to season the clay and turf are the same. Just like a traditional wicket square.

mickey wrote:

bennymacca wrote:i heard earlier in the year that brand new drop in pitches seem to hold together extremely well, and take a few seasons to "settle"

question that im not actually sure of - is the pitch the same every single year? i.e is that grass the same grass that goes in year after year?

my first comment seems to answer my question but if thats the case, do they ever change the soil over?

Once the pitch is built, thats it. You may get some grass replaced in the crease area, but from season to season the clay and turf are the same. Just like a traditional wicket square.

Like traditional squares eventually the whole thing has to be replaced, but given that during winter it can be removed and placed into more controlled conditions it should be lasting a long time.