England v Australia 5th Test - The Oval

[Lightning McQueen]

I'm still trying to grasp what happened
The Clarke declaration was suicidal , Aussies had almost ZERO hope of winning this game
Really 10 wickets in less than 50 overs , what was he thinking ?
Only one team could win the game, and that would have meant a 0-4 arse wipe

I could completely understand if the series was locked away at 2-2 , and the Ashes for the taking
I could very slightly accept at 1-2 Clarke would want to square the series
But to be 0-3 down , whats the point ?
The only result would have been the ignominy of being wiped out 0-4 for the first time in Ashes history

Bad light saved the Aussies of one of their most embarrassing losses with 4 overs to be bowled [phewwwwww]
The bad light was also another reason why this declaration was iffy , that Australia really only had about 40 odd overs available

But what a brilliant entertaining finish it was
At least prob most of the crowd and most of the TV viewers and myself were entertained

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. It was the perfect declaration IMO. It rained for all of day 4 so if we pitched it up and made them indecisive we should've been able to prosper from a moving wicket.
If we batted any longer they would've shut up shop, any shorter and they would've been on the cans earlier.

[heater31]

You know what really grinded my gears last night - Swann hit Siddle for a four from a pull shot, one bounce over the fence.. then the stupid pommy bloke in the crowd stood there holding the ball out in his hand while the aussie fielder asked for it back then proceeded to just drop it on the other side of the fence and walk away.. WHAT A PIECE OF SH!T!!!!

shows about the same amount of class as their own players. Looks like Monty arrived after the game....

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/the-splashes-england-players-celebrate-ashes-victory-by-urinating-on-the-oval-pitch/story-fndpt0dy-1226704039918

[Lightning McQueen]

You know what really grinded my gears last night - Swann hit Siddle for a four from a pull shot, one bounce over the fence.. then the stupid pommy bloke in the crowd stood there holding the ball out in his hand while the aussie fielder asked for it back then proceeded to just drop it on the other side of the fence and walk away.. WHAT A PIECE OF SH!T!!!!

shows about the same amount of class as their own players. Looks like Monty arrived after the game....

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/the-splashes-england-players-celebrate-ashes-victory-by-urinating-on-the-oval-pitch/story-fndpt0dy-1226704039918

We'd find it funny if it was the Aussies. I'm sure we've done worse over the years.

[Phantom Gossiper]

shows about the same amount of class as their own players. Looks like Monty arrived after the game....

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/the-splashes-england-players-celebrate-ashes-victory-by-urinating-on-the-oval-pitch/story-fndpt0dy-1226704039918

Let them soak it up.. wait till they come here and then whinge and moan about our decks and hostile crowds!

Aus to win the return leg 3-1 and bury those whinging upstarts!

[Lightning McQueen]

shows about the same amount of class as their own players. Looks like Monty arrived after the game....

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/the-splashes-england-players-celebrate-ashes-victory-by-urinating-on-the-oval-pitch/story-fndpt0dy-1226704039918

Let them soak it up.. wait till they come here and then whinge and moan about our decks and hostile crowds!

Aus to win the return leg 3-1 and bury those whinging upstarts!

You reckon? We're crap atm.

[Hazbeen]

Who stays and who goes out of the side for the return series?

[Booney]

shows about the same amount of class as their own players. Looks like Monty arrived after the game....

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/the-splashes-england-players-celebrate-ashes-victory-by-urinating-on-the-oval-pitch/story-fndpt0dy-1226704039918

Let them soak it up.. wait till they come here and then whinge and moan about our decks and hostile crowds!

Aus to win the return leg 3-1 and bury those whinging upstarts!

You reckon? We're crap atm.

We aren't great, but neither were they.

Without Bells runs and Andersons wickets they would have been as mediocre as we were.

Harris has Cook's measure, Root had one big knock, Trott and Peitersen were hit and miss. With Siddle not getting much work as the conditions didn't suit him I think our bowlers did ok there and will do alot better back here.

We just need to make some runs......

[Phantom Gossiper]

You reckon? We're crap atm.

But are England as good as what everyone thinks?

Take Ian Bell out of the series and I though their batting was far from intimidating. Anderson bowled well as did Broad, cant see Swann being a real danger on our decks but can see our seamers getting more purchase plus our batsmen have shown on occasion that with correct application we can make scores.

May have lost 3-0 this series but won several key moments and sessions, and were in the games most of the time, could well have won a couple even.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Who stays and who goes out of the side for the return series?

I liked Faulkner, think he may have done enough to warrant another go.

Haddin was disappointing I thought, and dropping that catch last night showed he isn't getting any younger.

Rogers showed the grit and determination we need at the top, Cowan is gone. Hughes may retain a spot in the squad but becoming increasingly unlikely and Khawaja can kiss his baggy green goodbye for a few years.

Bowlers were good i thought, just need more stability and consistency in the batting.

[Dogwatcher]

You know what really grinded my gears last night - Swann hit Siddle for a four from a pull shot, one bounce over the fence.. then the stupid pommy bloke in the crowd stood there holding the ball out in his hand while the aussie fielder asked for it back then proceeded to just drop it on the other side of the fence and walk away.. WHAT A PIECE OF SH!T!!!!

shows about the same amount of class as their own players. Looks like Monty arrived after the game....

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/the-splashes-england-players-celebrate-ashes-victory-by-urinating-on-the-oval-pitch/story-fndpt0dy-1226704039918

We'd find it funny if it was the Aussies. I'm sure we've done worse over the years.

I know a cricket club that celebrates in that fashion when it wins a flag. Who does it harm?

[Johno6]

I thought 29 catches by hadden for the series was a fairly good effort.

[Phantom Gossiper]

1. Rogers
2. SILK
3. Watson
4. Clarke
5. Warner
6. Faulkner
7. Nevill
8. Siddle
9. Pattinson/Starc/Bird
10. Harris
11. Lyon

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Others i'd like to see considered:
Maddison
S. Marsh
Voges
Sayers
Lalor

[Phantom Gossiper]

I thought 29 catches by hadden for the series was a fairly good effort.

Gimme the gloves, if my bowlers are gonna find the edge consistently i'll take 29 catches too!

Out of curiosity, how many byes and dropped catches? How many runs for a "Batsman"/keeper?

[heater31]

You know what really grinded my gears last night - Swann hit Siddle for a four from a pull shot, one bounce over the fence.. then the stupid pommy bloke in the crowd stood there holding the ball out in his hand while the aussie fielder asked for it back then proceeded to just drop it on the other side of the fence and walk away.. WHAT A PIECE OF SH!T!!!!

shows about the same amount of class as their own players. Looks like Monty arrived after the game....

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/the-splashes-england-players-celebrate-ashes-victory-by-urinating-on-the-oval-pitch/story-fndpt0dy-1226704039918

We'd find it funny if it was the Aussies. I'm sure we've done worse over the years.

I know a cricket club that celebrates in that fashion when it wins a flag. Who does it harm?

The Groundsman probably.....


Personally I think its poor form especially from a Professional Team. Keeping in mind their own fringe player was sacked by his club during the series for a urinating incident....

[Gozu]

Ashes series stats

England

Batting

Bell-562 runs @ 62.44
Pietersen-388 runs @ 38.80
Root-339 runs @ 37.66
Trott-293 runs @ 29.30
Cook-277 runs @ 27.70
Bairstow-203 runs @ 29
Broad-179 runs @ 25.57
Prior-133 runs @ 19
Swann-126 runs @ 25.20
Bresnan-103 runs @ 25.75
Woakes-42 runs @ 42
Anderson-36 runs @ 7.20
Finn-2 runs @ 2
Kerrigan-1 run @ N/A

Bowling

Swann-26wk @ 29.03
Broad-22wk @ 27.45
Anderson-22wk @ 29.59
Bresnan-10wk @ 29.60
Root-3wk @ 11.33
Finn-2wk @ 58.50
Trott-1wk @ 28
Woakes-1wk @ 96
Kerrigan-0/53

Australia

Batting

Watson-418 runs @ 41.80
Clarke-381 runs @ 47.62
Rogers-367 runs @ 40.77
Smith-345 runs @ 38.33
Haddin-206 runs @ 22.88
Warner-138 runs @ 23
Agar-130 runs @ 32.50
Khawaja-114 runs @ 19
Starc-104 runs @ 26
Harris-99 runs @ 19.80
Siddle-84 runs @ 10.50
Hughes-83 runs @ 27.66
Pattinson-72 runs @ 36
Faulkner-45 runs @ 22.50
Cowan-14 runs @ 7
Lyon-12 runs @ 6
Bird-1 run @ N/A

Bowling

Harris-24wk @ 19.58
Siddle-17wk @ 31.58
Starc-11wk @ 32.45
Lyon-9wk @ 33.66
Pattinson-7wk @ 43.85
Faulkner-6wk @ 16.33
Smith-4wk @ 26.50
Bird-2wk @ 62.50
Watson-2wk @ 89.50
Agar-2wk @ 124
Clarke-0/6

[Trader]

4 of the 5 tests we won on first innings, yet lost the series 3-0.
Shows once the pressure comes on our young side falters at key moments.
Give them another 3 years and they might be ok.

[heater31]

4 of the 5 tests we won on first innings, yet lost the series 3-0.
Shows once the pressure comes on our young side falters at key moments.
Give them another 3 years and they might be ok.

Interesting, but sadly you don't get first innings points like the shield.....

[Armytank]

1st: We lost by 14 runs due to a batting collapse
2nd: We got spanked
3rd: Aus in a winning position all test until it rained........
4th: We were in a winning position, mainly due to Ryan Harris, but a batting collapse again destroyed us.
5th: We were the stronger of the two teams until a sporting declaration almost lost us the test.

In hindsight, the test series could have been a lot worse, but somehow I am still disappointed by the results.

[Phantom Gossiper]

5th: We were the stronger of the two teams until a sporting declaration almost lost us the test.

And a day lost due to rain.. wouldn't have seen the generous dec. had we not lost that day

[tigerpie]

1st: We lost by 14 runs due to a batting collapse
2nd: We got spanked
3rd: Aus in a winning position all test until it rained........
4th: We were in a winning position, mainly due to Ryan Harris, but a batting collapse again destroyed us.
5th: We were the stronger of the two teams until a sporting declaration almost lost us the test.

In hindsight, the test series could have been a lot worse, but somehow I am still disappointed by the results.

Good summation i reckon.
Lets see how Mr Bell likes our quicker decks this summer, but..... he was the difference this series.
We had a lot of bad luck at crucial times this series also...yeah ya get that, but it seemed to be at the worst time.

Bring on Brisbane and hope to hell our batsman have learnt how to bat smarter.