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Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:26 am
by Jim05
7/71, absolute pea hearted effort. These guys are surely taking the piss, no spirit or grit shown

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:43 am
by Dogwatcher
whufc wrote:Has there ever been a worse debut than Chandrika

2 innings, 9 balls, 0 runs


Australia's Roy Park played one Test in the 20s. Faced one ball. His wife missed his innings, she dropped her knitting as the ball was being delivered.

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:55 am
by mal
whufc wrote:Has there ever been a worse debut than Chandrika

2 innings, 9 balls, 0 runs


His previous innings against the Australians was the lead up tour game
He represented the West Indies Presidents Eleven v Australia
He made a first ball duck

Last 3 innings v Australian teams
0 runs
10 balls

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:15 am
by carey
Jim05 wrote:7/71, absolute pea hearted effort. These guys are surely taking the piss, no spirit or grit shown



Spirit or Grit ain't going to help blokes who simply aren't up to it.

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:19 pm
by Lightning McQueen
mal wrote:Im sure this didnt happen, but did the Australians know there were 2 days left after stumps day 3?

Why declare before stumps day 3 ?
Why give the West Indie a sniff by declaring and setting them 393 in 2 days plus the 8 overs already faced ?

Australia is 1-0 up in the series
Why not bat to a lead of 450 , snuff out the West Indies completely and STILL WIN the match

Footnote
Please disregard my comments if
There is rain forecast last 2 days
They want to get to England ASAP


An uncommitted day in the Caribbean sounds quite appealing.

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:24 pm
by The Bedge
Steve Smith already with 471 runs @ 117 this calendar year. :shock:

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:36 am
by Stumps
Zartan wrote:Steve Smith already with 471 runs @ 117 this calendar year. :shock:



averaging 131 in last 12 tests I heard :shock:

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:40 am
by The Bedge
Stumps wrote:
Zartan wrote:Steve Smith already with 471 runs @ 117 this calendar year. :shock:



averaging 131 in last 12 tests I heard :shock:

That's outrageous! With the Ashes coming up, then there would be what 3x tests in Aus before EOY, he could well push his way up towards the top of list for most runs ever in a calendar year!

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:38 am
by Lightning McQueen
Zartan wrote:That's outrageous! With the Ashes coming up, then there would be what 3x tests in Aus before EOY, he could well push his way up towards the top of list for most runs ever in a calendar year!

I hope I'm wrong but the English conditions will be a real test for him IMO.

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:17 pm
by bennymacca
What sort of pitches dos they prepare for the kiwis? With swan gone it probably makes less sense for them to prepare flat turners again, but then again our pace attack will outperform theirs on any surface, but blunting our attack as much as possible could be the way to go for them

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:05 pm
by Lightning McQueen
I just don't think that he can play with the same flair as he does on our decks, they'll seem and the poms generally swing the ball well.

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:22 pm
by whufc
bennymacca wrote:What sort of pitches dos they prepare for the kiwis? With swan gone it probably makes less sense for them to prepare flat turners again, but then again our pace attack will outperform theirs on any surface, but blunting our attack as much as possible could be the way to go for them


The pitches against NZ had a tad of green and cause of the overcast conditions the ball was hopping around

For is though I think they will go back to the drier decks where reverse swing will be a factor

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:46 pm
by heater31
whufc wrote:
bennymacca wrote:What sort of pitches dos they prepare for the kiwis? With swan gone it probably makes less sense for them to prepare flat turners again, but then again our pace attack will outperform theirs on any surface, but blunting our attack as much as possible could be the way to go for them


The pitches against NZ had a tad of green and cause of the overcast conditions the ball was hopping around

For is though I think they will go back to the drier decks where reverse swing will be a factor



They won't want them too dry or Australia will play 2 spinners plus have Smith and Clarke (if his back holds up). Anderson can't bowl a hoop down hill in Australia but on the English wickets and a Duke in his hands is a different ball game.

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:53 pm
by Booney
Sir Wank Forrell, isn't it? :lol:

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:23 pm
by bennymacca
heater31 wrote:
whufc wrote:
bennymacca wrote:What sort of pitches dos they prepare for the kiwis? With swan gone it probably makes less sense for them to prepare flat turners again, but then again our pace attack will outperform theirs on any surface, but blunting our attack as much as possible could be the way to go for them


The pitches against NZ had a tad of green and cause of the overcast conditions the ball was hopping around

For is though I think they will go back to the drier decks where reverse swing will be a factor



They won't want them too dry or Australia will play 2 spinners plus have Smith and Clarke (if his back holds up). Anderson can't bowl a hoop down hill in Australia but on the English wickets and a Duke in his hands is a different ball game.


We didn't even play 2 spinners in the UAE.

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:00 pm
by RB
O'Keefe and Lyon played in the first test in the UAE.

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:54 pm
by Ron Burgundy
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Zartan wrote:That's outrageous! With the Ashes coming up, then there would be what 3x tests in Aus before EOY, he could well push his way up towards the top of list for most runs ever in a calendar year!

I hope I'm wrong but the English conditions will be a real test for him IMO.


In the 2013 tour of England he scored a ton, and two fifties. Averaged around 38-40 I think. Being a much better batsman now, there is no reason why he can't improve on those numbers.

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:19 pm
by Grahaml
I think whatever the Poms dish up Smith will be fine. Clarke hasn't been scoring like he was but you don't ever count blokes of that class out. Warner will be better for the hit while Rogers and Voges will feel as comfortable there as anywhere. If the ball swings over there what will Harris, Starc and Johnson do to them? If it's low and slow how will they get us out?

Frightening to think that we'll have to leave one of Johnson/Starc/Harris/Hazlewood out and the next group include Cummins/Pattinson/Bird. Heck, our 3rd best X1 would boast a handy bowling attack. I don't remember a time we had such strength in the fast bowling department.

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:22 am
by The Bedge
Time for an Aus v Aus 'A' test! 8)

I'm sure there are plenty around that would love a crack at the aussies to show what they're capable of - Voges, Klinger, Ferguson, Bird, Cummins, Neville, Pattinson, Ahmed etc etc..

Make for good viewing at least :D

Re: 2015 Frank Worral and Ashes Tours

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:07 am
by bennymacca
Grahaml wrote:I think whatever the Poms dish up Smith will be fine. Clarke hasn't been scoring like he was but you don't ever count blokes of that class out. Warner will be better for the hit while Rogers and Voges will feel as comfortable there as anywhere. If the ball swings over there what will Harris, Starc and Johnson do to them? If it's low and slow how will they get us out?

Frightening to think that we'll have to leave one of Johnson/Starc/Harris/Hazlewood out and the next group include Cummins/Pattinson/Bird. Heck, our 3rd best X1 would boast a handy bowling attack. I don't remember a time we had such strength in the fast bowling department.


It's a good point. Whilst the current crop don't compare to the McGrath/lee/Gillespie trio imo, I reckon they all have kasper/bichel/tait, the backup bowlers of that era, covered easily.

Having said that, imagine if Johnson didn't go off the rails for a while there. Might have even challenged McGrath for most wickets by a pace bowler. Will still get second comfortably would think - another 60 or so wickets.

Even with his crap years he still has the best strike rate of any Australian to take 100 wickets (narrowly beating Ryan Harris)