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Minimum Chips wrote:Unfortunately whilst we have a cowardly bully as Head of Low Performance who continually abuses and berates some of the young rookies/players we have no hope (from a very reliable source). The whole place reeks and if that sort of stuff happened in other workplaces it would be straight to court!

This is a SACA problem yes, but it's also a cricket problem in general.

It's slowly getting better, but cricket is by far the worst for this sort of stuff.

The Old boys getting one up on the kids, the A-graders to the club's C/D graders, the state guys to the club guys, etc. There is this constant need to 'Alpha' the blokes below you in a cricket setting.

Most sports have it to a much smaller degree, but cricket it is still very prevalent.

Previously it didn't really bother me, but more recently I've noticed it more and more and to be honest its starting to drive me away from the sport.

Booney wrote:

DoublebluTiger wrote:With WA's win today, since SA's last shield win, every other state has won the shield at least 3 times.
You have to wonder about the SACA hierarchy and their self respect and character to not have their pride, not pricked, but well and truly stabbed to death by these ever increasing and damning stats.

Ha! I just tweeted that very detail :

Queensland have won 8 titles
Victoria 7
NSW 5
Tasmania 3
Western Australia 3

Add to that the fact we have never really been close either makes for terrible reading.
How many wooden spoons have the redbacks got as well?

Surely they have to do an overhaul from the top now.

amber_fluid wrote:

Booney wrote:

DoublebluTiger wrote:With WA's win today, since SA's last shield win, every other state has won the shield at least 3 times.
You have to wonder about the SACA hierarchy and their self respect and character to not have their pride, not pricked, but well and truly stabbed to death by these ever increasing and damning stats.

Ha! I just tweeted that very detail :

Queensland have won 8 titles
Victoria 7
NSW 5
Tasmania 3
Western Australia 3

Add to that the fact we have never really been close either makes for terrible reading.
How many wooden spoons have the redbacks got as well?

Surely they have to do an overhaul from the top now.

15 since 95/96 shield win

Really should have won in 2016, won the toss but didn't bat for the draw, scored 340 in 93 overs

That’s a good effort to collect 15 in 26 odd years

amber_fluid wrote:That’s a good effort to collect 15 in 26 odd years

"low" is still a standard.

Harry Conway to the redbacks next year. Would add some bowling depth to the shield squad.

David Brent wrote:Harry Conway to the redbacks next year. Would add some bowling depth to the shield squad.

Yep - on cricket.com.au that him and Thornton are on their way. In terms of the "outs", I believe Kerber, Gibson and Oakley have been given the boot. I also heard a whisper that a young player on the list has quit and may well end up interstate either this season or next season. Don't know who though.

So all 5 pace bowlers are from interstate

These two
Buckingham
McAndrew
Doggett.

Brodlach wrote:So all 5 pace bowlers are from interstate

These two
Buckingham
McAndrew
Doggett.

+ Agar + Winter. David Grant unfortunately by being a local will probably see himself forced out.

Billy Stanlake heading to Tasmania

Minimum Chips wrote:

Brodlach wrote:So all 5 pace bowlers are from interstate

These two
Buckingham
McAndrew
Doggett.

+ Agar + Winter. David Grant unfortunately by being a local will probably see himself forced out.

Spencer Johnson? Was he on the Redbacks list last year?

Aerie wrote:

Minimum Chips wrote:

Brodlach wrote:So all 5 pace bowlers are from interstate

These two
Buckingham
McAndrew
Doggett.

+ Agar + Winter. David Grant unfortunately by being a local will probably see himself forced out.

Spencer Johnson? Was he on the Redbacks list last year?

No, Spencer only has a Strikers contract.

Eagles2014 wrote:

Aerie wrote:

Minimum Chips wrote:

Brodlach wrote:So all 5 pace bowlers are from interstate

These two
Buckingham
McAndrew
Doggett.

+ Agar + Winter. David Grant unfortunately by being a local will probably see himself forced out.

Spencer Johnson? Was he on the Redbacks list last year?

No, Spencer only has a Strikers contract.

Spencer got a full contract, as did Buckingham.

Added Thornton and Conway as mentioned, also Ben Manenti (off spinner from Tassie) and Aiden Cahill (allrounder from NSW and AUS U/19's).

Rookie contracts to Isaac Higgins and Harry Matthias.

Eagles2014 wrote:Spencer got a full contract, as did Buckingham.

Added Thornton and Conway as mentioned, also Ben Manenti (off spinner from Tassie) and Aiden Cahill (allrounder from NSW and AUS U/19's).

Rookie contracts to Isaac Higgins and Harry Matthias.

Yet more interstaters. As mentioned before, this organisation is an absolute joke.
Too lazy and incompetent to develop their own talent so they are now looking for a quick fix by gifting full contracts to interstaters. Johnson deserves one but you now watch him break down after being subjected to the crap fitness regime they have in there. I'm not convinced yet on Lindsay Buckingham, and he won't get a game now anyway as he's behind all the others they've now brought in.
Good luck to young Matthias but clearly he is zero threat to Harry Nielsen's spot so you'd think this is deliberate by Tim Nielsen to protect his son yet again. Barrett has by far been the best keeper batsman in SA but due to him being a threat to Harry he never got a look in. Absolute corrupt organisation with such a s..t culture that they are so much on the nose it's not funny.
How many more games will Liam Scott be gifted? I'm sure Lehmann now has a long term deal as well so Tim can keep looking after his mates!!
No wonder we've been last the past 5 seasons and been crap for a long time and you still have the same people in charge. Unfortunately I fear the new CEO will be hoodwinked by Nielsen as well.
Rant over!!

Minimum Chips wrote:

David Brent wrote:Harry Conway to the redbacks next year. Would add some bowling depth to the shield squad.

Yep - on cricket.com.au that him and Thornton are on their way. In terms of the "outs", I believe Kerber, Gibson and Oakley have been given the boot. I also heard a whisper that a young player on the list has quit and may well end up interstate either this season or next season. Don't know who though.

Your rumour re outs were spot on - confirmed the 4th one is Corey Kelly - listed as personal reasons

South Australia Redbacks 2022-23 contract list:
Wes Agar
Jordan Buckingham
Alex Carey
Jake Carder
Harry Conway
Brendan Doggett
Daniel Drew
David Grant
Travis Head
Henry Hunt
Spencer Johnson
Thomas Kelly
Jake Lehmann
Nathan McAndrew
Nathan McSweeney
Ben Manenti
Harry Nielsen
Lloyd Pope
Liam Scott
Henry Thornton
Jake Weatherald
Nick Winter.
Rookies:
Kyle Brazell
Aiden Cahill
Bailey Capel
Isaac Higgins
Ryan King
Harry Mathias
italics - interstater

Ins: Jordan Buckingham (upgraded), Harry Conway (NSW), Spencer Johnson (West Torrens), Thomas Kelly (upgraded), Ben Manenti (Tasmania), Henry Thornton (Victoria), Aidan Cahill (NSW), Isaac Higgins (Glenelg), Harry Matthias (Sturt).

Outs: Ryan Gibson (delisted), Corey Kelly (personal reasons), Sam Kerber (delisted), Joe Mennie (retired), Kane Richardson (Queensland), Daniel Worrall (Surrey)

Armchair expert wrote:South Australia Redbacks 2022-23 contract list:
Wes Agar
Jordan Buckingham
Alex Carey
Jake Carder
Harry Conway
Brendan Doggett
Daniel Drew
David Grant
Travis Head
Henry Hunt
Spencer Johnson
Thomas Kelly
Jake Lehmann
Nathan McAndrew
Nathan McSweeney
Ben Manenti
Harry Nielsen
Lloyd Pope
Liam Scott
Henry Thornton
Jake Weatherald
Nick Winter.
Rookies:
Kyle Brazell
Aiden Cahill
Bailey Capel
Isaac Higgins
Ryan King
Harry Mathias
italics - interstater

Ins: Jordan Buckingham (upgraded), Harry Conway (NSW), Spencer Johnson (West Torrens), Thomas Kelly (upgraded), Ben Manenti (Tasmania), Henry Thornton (Victoria), Aidan Cahill (NSW), Isaac Higgins (Glenelg), Harry Matthias (Sturt).

Outs: Ryan Gibson (delisted), Corey Kelly (personal reasons), Sam Kerber (delisted), Joe Mennie (retired), Kane Richardson (Queensland), Daniel Worrall (Surrey)

if anyone can tell me how josh doyle doesn't get at least a rookie contract i'd love to know

Think Josh Doyle be too old for a rookie contract, think you have to be under 24.

Definitely should have played the last Shield game this year after his double tons in the last Second X1 game though

Shaun Marsh will play on for WA next season, it will be his 23rd first class season. He is still contacted for one more season and he looks set to remain as the stand in captain when brother Mitch is unavailable.

Peter Siddle signed a one year contract extension for Tasmania which will take him into his 16th first class season.

Tim Paine was not given a new contract by Tasmania.

Billy Stanlake has moved to Tasmania.

Victorian Wicket-keeper Seb Gotch has been forced to retire because of a chronic finger injury.

The Dark Knight wrote:Shaun Marsh will play on for WA next season, it will be his 23rd first class season. He is still contacted for one more season and he looks set to remain as the stand in captain when brother Mitch is unavailable.

Peter Siddle signed a one year contract extension for Tasmania which will take him into his 16th first class season.

Tim Paine was not given a new contract by Tasmania.

Billy Stanlake has moved to Tasmania.

Victorian Wicket-keeper Seb Gotch has been forced to retire because of a chronic finger injury.

SA could do with Tim Paine......especially if Carey gets more games for Australia.