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Barry wrote:

carey wrote:

Barry wrote:I wouldn't of thought so, no chance of him crossing over to Mawsons.

For some reason he doesn't like us that much

Lol. To be honest the blokes I didn't think much of have moved on. I'm a lover not a hater

I promise this season I'll come have a session with Box and old man Ash.

Always welcome to sign and clearance and have session every week mate

Let's no get to carried away! Lol

Although with Fatty not there anymore I'm sure it's a much quieter place! Lol

Barry wrote:
As far as I am aware Andy will be there ready to go, pretty handy player

very handy..goes about it undetected but sets up a lot of forward entries..

zedman wrote:

Barry wrote:
As far as I am aware Andy will be there ready to go, pretty handy player

very handy..goes about it undetected but sets up a lot of forward entries..

I played cricket with him along time ago back in high school days and played against him when he was at Golden Grove

Computer Crashed wrote:

Barry wrote:Mawsons starting pre-season, Dec 2nd.

3 Sessions before Christmas. Whats this like compared to other clubs?

Unsure about anyone from Plympton, you got names?

I just don't get pre season before the new year.

I don't get preseason before, or after new year.

wristwatcher wrote:

X Runna wrote:

Computer Crashed wrote:

Barry wrote:Mawsons starting pre-season, Dec 2nd.

3 Sessions before Christmas. Whats this like compared to other clubs?

Unsure about anyone from Plympton, you got names?

I just don't get pre season before the new year.

Agree.......totally unnecessary

It is totally unnecessary if your happy with your club spending infinity in Div 6.... Or 7.

I find it hard to believe you don't think your club and players will benefit from some hard work striving towards a common goal. It doesn't need to be 3 nights a week but even our D grade starts one day a week next week.

Sorry bud,you are wrong.
Played in 5 winning GFs and 1 losing GF for the Bulls from 89 to 97.
Never started pre season until the middle of Jan.
Mon/Wed/Fri training and the same routine every year.
By the time round 1 came along the playing group was fitter than any other side going around.
Maximum pay for myself was $60 a game even after playing 200 games.
I and my team mates didn't give a rats about money - we were there to win.
I actually owed money at the end of most seasons because we hung around and spent the coin over the bar - yep - a tab was kept by the great man Jimmy, now departed.
Today's footballers are quite simply pathetic when it comes to committing to each other and their club.
End of a true story.

Great post computer. Couldn't agree more

Computer Crashed wrote:Sorry bud,you are wrong.
Played in 5 winning GFs and 1 losing GF for the Bulls from 89 to 97.
Never started pre season until the middle of Jan.
Mon/Wed/Fri training and the same routine every year.
By the time round 1 came along the playing group was fitter than any other side going around.
Maximum pay for myself was $60 a game even after playing 200 games.
I and my team mates didn't give a rats about money - we were there to win.
I actually owed money at the end of most seasons because we hung around and spent the coin over the bar - yep - a tab was kept by the great man Jimmy, now departed.
Today's footballers are quite simply pathetic when it comes to committing to each other and their club.
End of a true story.

Did any of the teams you played against start before Xmas?

Don't know Q.
If they did it was a waste of time.
Personally I'd start running 3 times a week x 5k the day after the Melbourne Cup.

Preseason before Xmas is definitely not necessary if you have a properly structured preseason program and clear objectives and of course everyone works hard.

The biggest downside to preseason before Xmas is players are burnt out by mid year, and given players aren't the most disciplined plenty have a big Xmas/New Year period and undo all the good work.

Nope if I was a head coach I would be starting mid Jan and having 5x sessions a fortnight.

Sorry bud,you are wrong.
Played in 5 winning GFs and 1 losing GF for the Bulls from 89 to 97.
Never started pre season until the middle of Jan.
Mon/Wed/Fri training and the same routine every year.
By the time round 1 came along the playing group was fitter than any other side going around.
Maximum pay for myself was $60 a game even after playing 200 games.
I and my team mates didn't give a rats about money - we were there to win.
I actually owed money at the end of most seasons because we hung around and spent the coin over the bar - yep - a tab was kept by the great man Jimmy, now departed.
Today's footballers are quite simply pathetic when it comes to committing to each other and their club.
End of a true story.[/quote]


Sounds to me like you had a group together that were galvanised and committed so I grant you a pre-season pre Xmas may have been superfluous to your needs but 6 GFs in 8 years suggests you had a very strong group regardless of what you did. If in early January you get a 3 night commitment from a bunch of guys who don't make excuses and work hard for each other I'm happy to except that below elite level this would work fine.

I think this day and age though players change club$ like underwear and those pre-Xmas sessions can be effective in getting the new groups together. As I mentioned in my post we are our clubs D grade playing in Div 7 probably next year and we do start next week but it is one hour a week and most of us all either play in a our social AFL 9s team, Basketball or Indoor cricket team on another night. Not exactly an AFL 15 session per week pre season.

Q. wrote:

Computer Crashed wrote:

wristwatcher wrote:

X Runna wrote:I just don't get pre season before the new year.

Agree.......totally unnecessary

It is totally unnecessary if your happy with your club spending infinity in Div 6.... Or 7.

I find it hard to believe you don't think your club and players will benefit from some hard work striving towards a common goal. It doesn't need to be 3 nights a week but even our D grade starts one day a week next week.

Sorry bud,you are wrong.
Played in 5 winning GFs and 1 losing GF for the Bulls from 89 to 97.
Never started pre season until the middle of Jan.
Mon/Wed/Fri training and the same routine every year.
By the time round 1 came along the playing group was fitter than any other side going around.
Maximum pay for myself was $60 a game even after playing 200 games.
I and my team mates didn't give a rats about money - we were there to win.
I actually owed money at the end of most seasons because we hung around and spent the coin over the bar - yep - a tab was kept by the great man Jimmy, now departed.
Today's footballers are quite simply pathetic when it comes to committing to each other and their club.
End of a true story.

Did any of the teams you played against start before Xmas?[/quote]

Computer Crashed wrote:Don't know Q.
If they did it was a waste of time.
Personally I'd start running 3 times a week x 5k the day after the Melbourne Cup.

Wait, so you did your own pre-xmas training?

Yet, organised group training was a waste time? Doesn't make sense.

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Don't know LM.

Q. wrote:

Computer Crashed wrote:Don't know Q.
If they did it was a waste of time.
Personally I'd start running 3 times a week x 5k the day after the Melbourne Cup.

Wait, so you did your own pre-xmas training?

Yet, organised group training was a waste time? Doesn't make sense.

Bloody oath I did.
Clubs feel obliged these days to get the group together before Xmas because they are scared shiteless of losing players.
My point is how piss poor players are these days because 90% of them wouldn't know how to do the right thing by their club and team mates in preparing themselves for a footy season.
I'm not saying don't do pre Xmas stuff.
Go for it.
Just don't think it's required if the playing group has the right attitude towards wanting success.

Computer Crashed wrote:

Q. wrote:

Computer Crashed wrote:Don't know Q.
If they did it was a waste of time.
Personally I'd start running 3 times a week x 5k the day after the Melbourne Cup.

Wait, so you did your own pre-xmas training?

Yet, organised group training was a waste time? Doesn't make sense.

Bloody oath I did.
Clubs feel obliged these days to get the group together before Xmas because they are scared shiteless of losing players.
My point is how piss poor players are these days because 90% of them wouldn't know how to do the right thing by their club and team mates in preparing themselves for a footy season.
I'm not saying don't do pre Xmas stuff.
Go for it.
Just don't think it's required if the playing group has the right attitude towards wanting success.

Some people can do their own training. Some people train better in groups. Some people will train if it is organised for them. Everybody is different and I don't think what motivates someone to train is a matter of right or wrong.

If there is enough demand from a group of players to make organising earlier sessions worthwhile, then why not cater to the demand?

Q. wrote:

Computer Crashed wrote:

Q. wrote:

Computer Crashed wrote:Don't know Q.
If they did it was a waste of time.
Personally I'd start running 3 times a week x 5k the day after the Melbourne Cup.

Wait, so you did your own pre-xmas training?

Yet, organised group training was a waste time? Doesn't make sense.

Bloody oath I did.
Clubs feel obliged these days to get the group together before Xmas because they are scared shiteless of losing players.
My point is how piss poor players are these days because 90% of them wouldn't know how to do the right thing by their club and team mates in preparing themselves for a footy season.
I'm not saying don't do pre Xmas stuff.
Go for it.
Just don't think it's required if the playing group has the right attitude towards wanting success.

Some people can do their own training. Some people train better in groups. Some people will train if it is organised for them. Everybody is different and I don't think what motivates someone to train is not a matter of right or wrong.

If there is enough demand from a group of players to make organising earlier sessions worthwhile, then why not cater to the demand?

Yep.

I'm glad we agree

Regarding pre xmas training - each to their own I reckon. Personally I am a fan of having a few runs just to get everyone together and lay the ground rules. I also like to set expectations for post xmas return conditioning, that way players know what is expected and hopefully if they are serious about their footy and success they will come back in better shape. There is not a lot of time between mid Jan and Round 1 (approx. 11 weeks). Its also important for new recruits to be introduced to the other players as soon as possible. Nothing wrong with mates getting together and having a bit of a run. Don't see how having a few runs and then a 3-4 weeks xmas break is gonna lead to burn out!

Inallseriousness wrote:Regarding pre xmas training - each to their own I reckon. Personally I am a fan of having a few runs just to get everyone together and lay the ground rules. I also like to set expectations for post xmas return conditioning, that way players know what is expected and hopefully if they are serious about their footy and success they will come back in better shape. There is not a lot of time between mid Jan and Round 1 (approx. 11 weeks). Its also important for new recruits to be introduced to the other players as soon as possible. Nothing wrong with mates getting together and having a bit of a run. Don't see how having a few runs and then a 3-4 weeks xmas break is gonna lead to burn out!

11 weeks is ample time.