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Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:21 am
by The Informer
The Rooster what is your problem with Mawson Lakes?

I have not known of any Pooraka player that has gone to Mawson Lakes, Mawson Lakes was told by the SAAFL that they couldnt claim any St Pauls students as zero point players so the club has nothing to do with St Pauls at all anymore apart from there history.

If your club provided a envoirement that players want to go to then you wouldnt have a problem about other clubs.

I would think that Para Hills would be closer to Mawson Lakes than you blokes?

I really dont understand your argument apart from you thinking that Pooraka should have a exculsion zone around your ground for new teams or where players can go.

Go out and smell the roses pal, life isnt that bad.

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:30 am
by Robb_Stark
when they changed to mawson lakes football club it draws alot more people to it now rather then st pauls

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:01 am
by Footy Chick
The Rooster wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
The Rooster wrote:Why Correct me??
:roll: :roll:
They weren't around before!! there was no Mawson Lakes football club!! St Pauls old scholars may have started them off but they are at Mawson Lakes called Mawson Lakes Fc!!

They didn't start, they moved to a new location with a new name...????? WTF???


cos your wrong...that's why!

if a person changes their name and moves house...does it mean they're a new person? apparently by your logic..


Are you for real??

Is it common for football clubs to move location?? Probably not because most clubs are based within a suburb, so Old scholars can just "move" across the road from existing clubs and call themselves something different that is the truth of it!!

My point is that this has happened right within our recruiting area and our depth is suffering as a result.
Perhaps instead of trolling people and trying to act like some unofficial expert on all things in local football focus on the actual point and how it relates to your original topic, after all it was you who raised this discussion.



No worries, I'll call HQ right now and have them shut down Mawsons, Para Hills, Ingle Farm and Greenacres just for your benefit.

Telling you you're wrong isn't trolling but you're claims of Mawson Lakes being the sole reason you can't recruit is a bit OTT, don't you think?

So you're seriously saying that EVERY single person that's gone to Mawsons since they moved there wouldv'e gone to Pooraka if they didn't exist?

=))

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:06 am
by Phantom Gossiper
The Rooster wrote:Is it common for football clubs to move location?? Probably not because most clubs are based within a suburb, so Old scholars can just "move" across the road from existing clubs and call themselves something different that is the truth of it!!

They're hardly across the road.. :?

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:15 am
by The Rooster
The_Informer wrote:The Rooster what is your problem with Mawson Lakes?

I have not known of any Pooraka player that has gone to Mawson Lakes, Mawson Lakes was told by the SAAFL that they couldnt claim any St Pauls students as zero point players so the club has nothing to do with St Pauls at all anymore apart from there history.

If your club provided a envoirement that players want to go to then you wouldnt have a problem about other clubs.

I would think that Para Hills would be closer to Mawson Lakes than you blokes?

I really dont understand your argument apart from you thinking that Pooraka should have a exculsion zone around your ground for new teams or where players can go.

Go out and smell the roses pal, life isnt that bad.


1) I have no problem besides the point I've raised twice now.
2) Players leaving our club was never discussed and isn't an issue..?
3) refer #2
4) Pooraka is on the eastern side of main north road, Mawson Lakes is on the western side...So err...No check google maps.
5) Really? As I think I've been pretty clear twice now the topic was "clubs in strife" and how this happens, I've been honest and expressed some difficulties we are facing in terms of recruiting new players from the area.
6) Yes, thanks mate, what club are you from again?

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:16 am
by The Rooster
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
The Rooster wrote:Is it common for football clubs to move location?? Probably not because most clubs are based within a suburb, so Old scholars can just "move" across the road from existing clubs and call themselves something different that is the truth of it!!

They're hardly across the road.. :?



sigh yes mate, the main north road!

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:29 am
by The Rooster
Footy Chick wrote:
The Rooster wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
The Rooster wrote:Why Correct me??
:roll: :roll:
They weren't around before!! there was no Mawson Lakes football club!! St Pauls old scholars may have started them off but they are at Mawson Lakes called Mawson Lakes Fc!!

They didn't start, they moved to a new location with a new name...????? WTF???


cos your wrong...that's why!

if a person changes their name and moves house...does it mean they're a new person? apparently by your logic..


Are you for real??

Is it common for football clubs to move location?? Probably not because most clubs are based within a suburb, so Old scholars can just "move" across the road from existing clubs and call themselves something different that is the truth of it!!

My point is that this has happened right within our recruiting area and our depth is suffering as a result.
Perhaps instead of trolling people and trying to act like some unofficial expert on all things in local football focus on the actual point and how it relates to your original topic, after all it was you who raised this discussion.



No worries, I'll call HQ right now and have them shut down Mawsons, Para Hills, Ingle Farm and Greenacres just for your benefit.

Telling you you're wrong isn't trolling but you're claims of Mawson Lakes being the sole reason you can't recruit is a bit OTT, don't you think?

So you're seriously saying that EVERY single person that's gone to Mawsons since they moved there wouldv'e gone to Pooraka if they didn't exist?

=))


Okay if you have any power at all I might believe you could do that, but A) i was never asking for this to happen and B) you won't be able to shut down these clubs from behind your computer. We have co-existed with Ingle Farm, Greenacres and PH for years and years. All I've said is that another club has migrated into close proximity which has had in impact on our club!

When was it ever suggested that they are the sole reason we can't recruit because that simply isn't true, It is however a challenge for our junior sides and the depth in our seniors.

And No i'm not saying that nor have I even suggested that players at Mawson lakes would be at Pooraka if they weren't there, Wow? Can I encourage you to go back to my initial post about ML? Also again you raised this topic and posed the question as to why clubs struggle yet seem unable to accept some peoples REAL concerns.

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:35 am
by Robb_Stark
Greenacres dead no juniors
gepps cross numbers are down
ingle farm numbers down
pooraka numbers down
para hills numbers down
mawson lakes numbers up

mawson lakes numbers are up because they only starting out in juniors but for pooraka and mawson lakes to survive long term a merge would be better rather then them fight it out each year for the same kids

also my parents live in montague farm i can walk to mawson lakes oval 5 minutes compared to pooraka 6 minutes

i live in mawson lakes i could easily play for mawson lakes my kids probably will cause im to lazy to drive to pooraka lol cause its an extra 4 minute drive blame the lights for that :)

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:36 am
by Dogwatcher
St Paul's was always in your 'zone'.

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:44 am
by The Informer
Mawson Lakes does not have any juniors at all.
Never have.

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:46 am
by Q.
Competition is good for the consumer.

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:47 am
by Footy Chick
If you think I could do that, you've got serious problems.

Look, all Im trying to say is that you can't blame one club.

It is however a challenge for our junior sides
- they don't even have juniors yet, not sure why you've even mentioned that.

I realise this is your take on why clubs are closing - and I understand that this is your story as far as Pooraka's take on it and I suggested it in my original post...too many clubs within spitting distance. With less and less people actually playing footy anymore and the lure of the $$, some clubs will find it hard to recruit.

By why you'd think a team that has been in D6/7 directly effects the recruitment of a team in D3/4 is beyond me,

Is someone from Mawsons or Pooraka able to tell me exactly how many footballers they've recruited from Pooraka since they've moved? I'd be interested to know the exact figures.

and then compare this with the other clubs directly around them?

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:51 am
by Footy Chick
AND then

You've got a club like Gepps Cross, which has a fantastic sports club with Pokies and an amazing undercover area to watch from the rain and all sorts of other fun stuff.

So if you're a parent, which is going to appeal more to you? But everyone's different I guess.

ALthough based on that logic - Greenacres should have the best juniors in the area :lol:

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:53 am
by Phantom Gossiper
Robb_Stark wrote:Greenacres dead no juniors
gepps cross numbers are down
ingle farm numbers down
pooraka numbers down
para hills numbers down
mawson lakes numbers up

Dont know where you are getting your info from but Ingle Farm appears as strong as ever and this season have an under 18's side again + the womens side in Div 1

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:05 am
by Phantom Gossiper
FWIW:

From Pooraka to:
Ingle Farm: 2.2km
Mawson Lakes 2.7km
Para Hills 3.4km
Greenacres 3.4km
Gepps Cross 3.9km

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:11 am
by Robb_Stark
The_Informer wrote:Mawson Lakes does not have any juniors at all.
Never have.



they either have this year or are working on it for next year

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:33 am
by Cohiba
The Rooster wrote:
The_Informer wrote:The Rooster what is your problem with Mawson Lakes?

I have not known of any Pooraka player that has gone to Mawson Lakes, Mawson Lakes was told by the SAAFL that they couldnt claim any St Pauls students as zero point players so the club has nothing to do with St Pauls at all anymore apart from there history.

If your club provided a envoirement that players want to go to then you wouldnt have a problem about other clubs.

I would think that Para Hills would be closer to Mawson Lakes than you blokes?

I really dont understand your argument apart from you thinking that Pooraka should have a exculsion zone around your ground for new teams or where players can go.

Go out and smell the roses pal, life isnt that bad.


1) I have no problem besides the point I've raised twice now.
2) Players leaving our club was never discussed and isn't an issue..?
3) refer #2
4) Pooraka is on the eastern side of main north road, Mawson Lakes is on the western side...So err...No check google maps.
5) Really? As I think I've been pretty clear twice now the topic was "clubs in strife" and how this happens, I've been honest and expressed some difficulties we are facing in terms of recruiting new players from the area.
6) Yes, thanks mate, what club are you from again?


A persons right to choose.....to play, to not play, to play wherever within SAAFL. Luckily we can still do that here....... :) If a club is more proactive than yours in a competitive market....sometimes means you have to work harder....not easy but then who said it is...... :)

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:33 am
by Phantom Gossiper
Robb_Stark wrote:
The_Informer wrote:Mawson Lakes does not have any juniors at all.
Never have.



they either have this year or are working on it for next year

Oh heaven forbid a club try and build juniors.. :roll:

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:34 am
by The Riddler
Robb_Stark wrote:
The_Informer wrote:Mawson Lakes does not have any juniors at all.
Never have.



they either have this year or are working on it for next year

No they don't mate and probably won't next year either.

lol quite a funny debate this though…I won't mention the amount of phone calls I got from parents over the past 5 years looking for a good jnr club in the area and me sending them to Pooraka ;) Might tell the new Coach Para Hills is closer now.

Re: Clubs in strife

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:34 am
by The Informer
Robb_Stark wrote:
The_Informer wrote:Mawson Lakes does not have any juniors at all.
Never have.



they either have this year or are working on it for next year


I know you are going to know more about Mawson Lakes than myself but Mawson Lakes has no juniors this season or the resources to have any next season.

I find this so funny that a club is blamming another because they are in the area as there reason they cannot recuirt!