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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:04 am
by whufc
Blem12 wrote:Dallas Hill has just signed with GG.
Good get.


Has talent but would want to have a better attitude than he did at Centrals and North Clare.

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:05 am
by Blem12
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Blem12 wrote:Dallas Hill has just signed with GG.
Good get.

Has Edwards been confirmed yet?


Unsure, fingers crossed

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:28 am
by Fools Gold
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Blem12 wrote:.

Has Edwards been confirmed yet?
Not happening

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:37 pm
by marbles
Footy Chick wrote:
marbles wrote:who are the teams next year in this div


getting around to that - got busy at work



no worries, and sorry to hear

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:29 am
by The Bedge
jo172 wrote:Another interesting point is whether the filing fee/legal fees should properly be declared under the salary cap if they weren't being paid (directly or indirectly) by Jesse himself.

On the face of it it would seem to me yes.


Did we end up finding or deciding on an answer for this, regarding Broadies and White?

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:43 pm
by jo172
The Bedge wrote:
jo172 wrote:Another interesting point is whether the filing fee/legal fees should properly be declared under the salary cap if they weren't being paid (directly or indirectly) by Jesse himself.

On the face of it it would seem to me yes.


Did we end up finding or deciding on an answer for this, regarding Broadies and White?


Assuming White didn’t obtain an indemnity order on costs (which given the nature of the matter would be amazing) this is something if I was Rostrevor and wanted to stay in D1 I’d be making loud noises about.

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:05 pm
by Footy Chick
jo172 wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
jo172 wrote:Another interesting point is whether the filing fee/legal fees should properly be declared under the salary cap if they weren't being paid (directly or indirectly) by Jesse himself.

On the face of it it would seem to me yes.


Did we end up finding or deciding on an answer for this, regarding Broadies and White?


Assuming White didn’t obtain an indemnity order on costs (which given the nature of the matter would be amazing) this is something if I was Rostrevor and wanted to stay in D1 I’d be making loud noises about.


I gather Bobby would be all over it ;)

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:28 pm
by DOC
Was White not represented by a Rostrevor player, Nic Murphy?

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:24 pm
by jo172
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/sa/SASC//2022/113.html

Ooft 30% on a taxation going to take a lot of match fees to get back!

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:36 pm
by Trader
jo172 wrote:http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/sa/SASC//2022/113.html

Ooft 30% on a taxation going to take a lot of match fees to get back!


For those of us that are not legally minded, what's the summary?

My read was the courts have found that SAAFL have to pay one third of White's legal fees?
If so, guessing that his legal fees may have been say $15k, White's effectively in the hole for $10k, all to earn $400 for that match he got to play.

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:17 pm
by DOC
Trader wrote:
jo172 wrote:http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/sa/SASC//2022/113.html

Ooft 30% on a taxation going to take a lot of match fees to get back!


For those of us that are not legally minded, what's the summary?

My read was the courts have found that SAAFL have to pay one third of White's legal fees?
If so, guessing that his legal fees may have been say $15k, White's effectively in the hole for $10k, all to earn $400 for that match he got to play.


Good summary.

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:19 pm
by jo172
In essence a taxed costs order means you get costs on the court scale as opposed to indemnity costs that are costs actually (and reasonably) incurred.

As a general rule of thumb a taxed costs order will be between 66% and 75% of costs actually incurred.

Given White was represented by (now) Kings Counsel, and the matter wasn’t certified for senior counsel he’d be out of pocket there.

I would suspect actual costs incurred would be between $20k and $30k indicating on a taxed 30% basis you might get $5k to $8k back from the other party (which is presumably insured).

Would suggest to me White would be $15k to $20k out of pocket at a guess

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:26 pm
by DOC
jo172 wrote:In essence a taxed costs order means you get costs on the court scale as opposed to indemnity costs that are costs actually (and reasonably) incurred.

As a general rule of thumb a taxed costs order will be between 66% and 75% of costs actually incurred.

Given White was represented by (now) Kings Counsel, and the matter wasn’t certified for senior counsel he’d be out of pocket there.


I would suspect actual costs incurred would be between $20k and $30k indicating on a taxed 30% basis you might get $5k to $8k back from the other party (which is presumably insured).

Would suggest to me White would be $15k to $20k out of pocket at a guess


Refer to point 20. Was certified for Senior Counsel.

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:40 pm
by redyellow&blue
So is White paying it, or did Broadies stump it up? I would be surprised if White paid it himself.....

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:49 pm
by jo172
redyellow&blue wrote:So is White paying it, or did Broadies stump it up? I would be surprised if White paid it himself.....


And if that’s case there’s a salary cap sized elephant in the room …

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:37 am
by TIRED TIGER
Trader wrote:
jo172 wrote:http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/sa/SASC//2022/113.html

Ooft 30% on a taxation going to take a lot of match fees to get back!


For those of us that are not legally minded, what's the summary?

My read was the courts have found that SAAFL have to pay one third of White's legal fees?
If so, guessing that his legal fees may have been say $15k, White's effectively in the hole for $10k, all to earn $400 for that match he got to play.

Trader, wasn’t about a match payment, it was about being able to qualify to play finals,
:shock:which he did and ended up playing in a premiership team.

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:50 am
by jo172
Strange, to obtain standing to review the decision you need to plead an economic interest in the decision.

Was clearly about matchies.

Any event, if he’s shelled out $20k out of pocket to play in a flag good on him

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:08 pm
by wristwatcher
Really interesting Div this one in 2023.

From my count i see 8 teams who have played Div 1.

The favorite for me is Golden grove who is one of the 2 teams who haven't. Josh Glenn is an incredible addition to an already undefeated Premiership team. I'm tipping a couple more recruits to come in and i'm sure a Kooka poster can correct me but only 2 from this years team not there next year.

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:08 pm
by wristwatcher
Really interesting Div this one in 2023.

From my count i see 8 teams who have played Div 1.

The favorite for me is Golden grove who is one of the 2 teams who haven't. Josh Glenn is an incredible addition to an already undefeated Premiership team. I'm tipping a couple more recruits to come in and i'm sure a Kooka poster can correct me but only 2 from this years team not there next year.

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:04 am
by TheTranzlator
Hearing talk of former Old Iggies coach, Damian Boots in talks to take over the coaching gig at ROCS. Boots is a Rossi old scholar and would be a great acquisition for the Rocs if they could land him.