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Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 3:59 pm
by chopper7
Afterthesiren wrote:It would be fair to say Torrens Valley, Echunga and Lobethal are paying over's just to compete in Div 1. Mt Lofty are in a similar bracket but have a larger town with a high school etc to draw from and as a result their junior numbers should always be healthier than the other 3 mentioned. There is no way the other 3 clubs can successfully sustain themselves for a long period of time against the likes of Blackwood, Hahndorf and Mt Barker. The gap between the big 3 and the little 3 is just far too distant. Realistically there is probably only 6 clubs that can be successful in Div 1 given its current environment. And the landscape won't change either so it will be up to the individual clubs to choose their own destiny. Div 2 would be the likely retreat or I can see some mergers happening in the next 3-5 years, maybe earlier.


Lobethal paying overs??? Have a look at their list and you tell me who you'd put in the bracket of being a highly paid player?? They are playing with 3 points each week, full of locals who I think are just lacking some confidence at the moment. I wouldn't even put them in the same bracket spending wise as TV or Echunga!!

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 4:07 pm
by saintal
fair call on Lobey- a lot of locals in their team lists

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:28 pm
by Dutchy
Is their coach a local?

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 12:20 am
by saintal
No, dont think so.

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 7:11 pm
by BurntToast
Any truth to the rumour that Torrens Valley may be folding or merging in the next couple of years?

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:30 pm
by saintal
BurntToast wrote:Any truth to the rumour that Torrens Valley may be folding or merging in the next couple of years?


There was a rumor a year or so back they approach Lobey for a merger, but I dont know if that claim had any legs. Probably BS.

Appear to be really struggling in the junior grades this year. Towns like Mt Torrens/Pleasant, Eden Valley, Springton are not awash with youngsters.

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 10:59 pm
by BurntToast
saintal wrote:
BurntToast wrote:Any truth to the rumour that Torrens Valley may be folding or merging in the next couple of years?


There was a rumor a year or so back they approach Lobey for a merger, but I dont know if that claim had any legs. Probably BS.

Appear to be really struggling in the junior grades this year. Towns like Mt Torrens/Pleasant, Eden Valley, Springton are not awash with youngsters.



They struggled last year with numbers also. I think they had a 17s side which struggled, otherwise the rest is 'Hahndorf Lions'. I can't see a healthy future for a club with little to nothing in the junior ranks, money can only get you so far. Unfortunately like you said, it's case of low population areas. Most of that area is farming lands with little in the means urban areas. I would say a lot of the kids who do live there would want to play with mates they go too school with, but play for different clubs, ie; Birdwood.

I think it's time for the HFL to have a major shake up in the junior comp.

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 6:33 pm
by cracka
saintal wrote:
BurntToast wrote:Any truth to the rumour that Torrens Valley may be folding or merging in the next couple of years?


There was a rumor a year or so back they approach Lobey for a merger, but I dont know if that claim had any legs. Probably BS.

Appear to be really struggling in the junior grades this year. Towns like Mt Torrens/Pleasant, Eden Valley, Springton are not awash with youngsters.

I thought they approached Birdwood a couple of years ago because they were going to have no juniors. Then the deal with Hahndorf was done.
If they have to merge again I feel it will be more of a takeover like the Uraidla/Eastern Ranges merge. Would they play their home games from 3 different ovals.
I find it hard to believe that from the towns of Eden Valley, Springton, Mt Pleasant, Mt Torrens & Tungkillo they can't find enough kids to fill their juniors..
Whatever the case may be, I hope something can be worked out so they don't have to merge or the HFL will end up like the SFL when they went from 2 divs to 1.

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 8:42 pm
by Jim05
cracka wrote:
saintal wrote:
BurntToast wrote:Any truth to the rumour that Torrens Valley may be folding or merging in the next couple of years?


There was a rumor a year or so back they approach Lobey for a merger, but I dont know if that claim had any legs. Probably BS.

Appear to be really struggling in the junior grades this year. Towns like Mt Torrens/Pleasant, Eden Valley, Springton are not awash with youngsters.

I thought they approached Birdwood a couple of years ago because they were going to have no juniors. Then the deal with Hahndorf was done.
If they have to merge again I feel it will be more of a takeover like the Uraidla/Eastern Ranges merge. Would they play their home games from 3 different ovals.
I find it hard to believe that from the towns of Eden Valley, Springton, Mt Pleasant, Mt Torrens & Tungkillo they can't find enough kids to fill their juniors..
Whatever the case may be, I hope something can be worked out so they don't have to merge or the HFL will end up like the SFL when they went from 2 divs to 1.

I think some of the Eden Valley kids head up to Angaston

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 9:59 pm
by FairDinkum
Apparently the Mt Lofty balcony lived up to its appalling reputation by resorting to racial vilification in the A grade game. All class from the disgusting ferals. Thankfully HFL hierarchy present, let's see some strong action !

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 10:00 pm
by Corona Man
FairDinkum wrote:Apparently the Mt Lofty balcony lived up to its appalling reputation by resorting to racial vilification in the A grade game. All class from the disgusting ferals. Thankfully HFL hierarchy present, let's see some strong action !

From the HFL hierarchy....pfft, unlikely

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 10:21 pm
by FairDinkum
Then what happens next time is it gets handled on the spot...

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 10:59 am
by DoublebluTiger
cracka wrote:
saintal wrote:
BurntToast wrote:Any truth to the rumour that Torrens Valley may be folding or merging in the next couple of years?


There was a rumor a year or so back they approach Lobey for a merger, but I dont know if that claim had any legs. Probably BS.

Appear to be really struggling in the junior grades this year. Towns like Mt Torrens/Pleasant, Eden Valley, Springton are not awash with youngsters.

I thought they approached Birdwood a couple of years ago because they were going to have no juniors. Then the deal with Hahndorf was done.
If they have to merge again I feel it will be more of a takeover like the Uraidla/Eastern Ranges merge. Would they play their home games from 3 different ovals.
I find it hard to believe that from the towns of Eden Valley, Springton, Mt Pleasant, Mt Torrens & Tungkillo they can't find enough kids to fill their juniors..
Whatever the case may be, I hope something can be worked out so they don't have to merge or the HFL will end up like the SFL when they went from 2 divs to 1.


Several clubs across the state would already be doing that - BMW in Northern Areas is one that has 3 home grounds. Not a drama.

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:24 pm
by Keefy
Weekend winners

Hahndorf by 35 pts over Onkas
Mt Barker by 26 pts over Torrens Valley
Mt Lofty by 10 pts over Lobey
Uraidla and Blackwood a draw

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:10 pm
by Keefy
Round 8 results

Blackwood over Hahndorf by 29 pts
Mt Barker over Lobethal by 61 pts
Onkas over Mt Lofty by 46 pts
Uraidla over Echunga by 29 pts

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:05 pm
by BurntToast
Keefy wrote:Round 8 results

Blackwood over Hahndorf by 29 pts
Mt Barker over Lobethal by 61 pts
Onkas over Mt Lofty by 46 pts
Uraidla over Echunga by 29 pts


Big result for Blackwood to get over Hahndorf like that. I know the Maggies were missing a couple of key personnel, but do they create a six goal deficit? I don't think so.

Overall it again looks like a relatively even comp approaching the mid season break. Hahndorf and Blackwood appear to be the favourites, while Uradlia, Mt Barker, Onkas, Echunga and Torrens Valley will most likely fight for those last three spots and probably in that order too. Lobey have dropped significantly (which is a shame as I enjoyed watching the way they went about in recent years) and Mt Lofty again look to have another lean season. Lofty just doesn't appear to have the quality or enough young talent to be competitive in the Div 1 arena.

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:57 pm
by oldman
What's happening at Echunga?
New Coach plenty of new players and pretty sure they aren't all playing for free.
Big amounts of $$$$ spent to make no impact.

Who takes responsibility for this?

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:30 pm
by hfoxe16
oldman wrote:What's happening at Echunga?
New Coach plenty of new players and pretty sure they aren't all playing for free.
Big amounts of $$$$ spent to make no impact.

Who takes responsibility for this?


Its gonna get worse as their best player Joel Aish is heading overseas in a week or so.

I'm not really surprised with the clubs results just have to look at what Mick Duncan's coaching record was like at his last club. He can't coach unless he has a piggy bank to purchase players he was given handed a treasure chest and still can't get the results. The quicker they move him out the better the club will be in the long run.

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:09 pm
by kikittome
You get what you deserve. Last years coach had no support from the committee, no players, and got then got shafted from a faceless few.

Re: HFL Division 1 (Central)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:32 pm
by thevoice
Crickets on this thread this season!!