by The Panther » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:53 pm
by running defender » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:57 pm
by cracka » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:25 pm
magpiemaster wrote:cracka wrote:Look Good In Leather wrote:overthehill wrote:Every year someone gets on here and says Onkas will be a dark horse and they usually finish in the bottom 3. Onkas always seem to be able to match it with the top teams but hardly ever get the win. Then they will turn around and lose to the worse side in the comp. If they make the top 5 in 2015 i think that would definitely be a pass mark for MaGahey in his first season as a senior coach
I thought you didn't judge clubs by their A-Grade in the Hills. Onkas win plenty of games in the B-Grade and Juniors so that's all good.
We dont at Onkas.
It begs the question, define a succesful club. Is it the club who goes out & recruits for A grade success (give me $100k & I'll get A grade results) or is it a club like Hahndorf who have 12 or more junior teams or is it the club who get 150 people back to the club after an away game for meals & presentations & have a heap of non players stay for a couple of hours after.
Hence why Onkas are a mediocre club and have been for generations, they pay plenty of cash (don't pretend they don't) and get no reward for it. They just continue to make excuse after excuse and the sides are full of thugs who can't play the game!
by Legs Man » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:30 pm
overthehill wrote:I agree with your point Legs.
I didn't agree with the court’s ruling (meaning I didn't agree with Echunga’s interpretation of the constitution) because I don't think the rules should be bent for any club that includes Echunga or Bridgewater.
The HFL clubs decided the rules together and it is the HFL boards duty to enforce them. Had the board decided not to go to court and let Echunga do whatever they want it would have been wrong and they would not have been doing their job.
The court decided Echunga will stay up and so be it. The rules should continue to be enforced which means Bridgewater must go down and attempt the emulate the achievements of Mt Lofty in 2014.
In the last 4 months we have heard the words “common sense” chucked around quite a lot and the whole reason we have rules is because it seems most people have a VERY different opinion of what common sense is.
At the end of the day Echunga did nothing wrong except maybe annoying a few people and cost some people a few dollars but they did what they believed best for their club.
Sorry Bridgewater but I sincerely hope to see you in Div 1 in 2016
by redsox » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:40 pm
running defender wrote:Look at the the 11 team bias draw thats come out three of the top 5 teams only play each other once from last year and its not Echunga or Blackwood.
Had their chance to rally all clubs for an 11 team comp but said they could"nt call a meeting to get them changed but now they want to suspend a by-law and change to an 11 team comp. If the dog had"nt stopped for a s**t he would have caught the rabbit. Yes J.Edwards was out last night looks fit and recovered from broken collarbone, a few of our boys have hit the weights too , Harland looking a lot fitter,. Get on board looking for 200 members this year
by The Sorce » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:45 pm
by Justquietly » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:16 pm
by Kick'n Back » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:28 pm
running defender wrote:Good to see me old mate chop chop is back, if you were at the grand final last year i got plenty of kicks and took a couple of beauty's in the 2nd half and kicked a lovely goal from around 45. Grocke coming up for a free snitzle and coke i suppose? T.V. picked up the other Ellis + a couple of North Adelaide seconds players but lost the jordans. Cam Hitchcock to I/B. The Southern Demons had 42 out at training tonight with 8 new recruits and lost no one albeit a top 5 club and bottom 5 club trying to lure 2 of our stars away for big money and you aunty chop chop reckon we pay plenty i think you live in a glass house cause i reckon your club pays out plenty.. thats got you thinking hey chop chop you had a look at the draw i think we play you in Rd 3
by Legs Man » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:46 pm
redsox wrote:running defender wrote:Look at the the 11 team bias draw thats come out three of the top 5 teams only play each other once from last year and its not Echunga or Blackwood.
Had their chance to rally all clubs for an 11 team comp but said they could"nt call a meeting to get them changed but now they want to suspend a by-law and change to an 11 team comp. If the dog had"nt stopped for a s**t he would have caught the rabbit. Yes J.Edwards was out last night looks fit and recovered from broken collarbone, a few of our boys have hit the weights too , Harland looking a lot fitter,. Get on board looking for 200 members this year
Echunga to play 4 of the top 5 teams from last season twice with Loby, Mt Barker and Uri only having to play one of the top 5 teams twice.
Court action should be taken as this is sure to upset the fine people of Echunga.
by chopper7 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:50 pm
Kick'n Back wrote:running defender wrote:Good to see me old mate chop chop is back, if you were at the grand final last year i got plenty of kicks and took a couple of beauty's in the 2nd half and kicked a lovely goal from around 45. Grocke coming up for a free snitzle and coke i suppose? T.V. picked up the other Ellis + a couple of North Adelaide seconds players but lost the jordans. Cam Hitchcock to I/B. The Southern Demons had 42 out at training tonight with 8 new recruits and lost no one albeit a top 5 club and bottom 5 club trying to lure 2 of our stars away for big money and you aunty chop chop reckon we pay plenty i think you live in a glass house cause i reckon your club pays out plenty.. thats got you thinking hey chop chop you had a look at the draw i think we play you in Rd 3
You must've been unlucky to miss out on the best on ground medal running defender its about time you performed on the big stage because you haven't impressed me much in your past grandfinal appearances
by Legs Man » Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:51 pm
Justquietly wrote:A lot of posts from people concerned as to how the HFL looks to everyone in the way that this has been handled. Looking half a season ahead, IF Echunga had been relegated. Do you think it'd still be a talking point?
Also, due to the judges ruling what happens at the end of 2015? Is it now a definitive 'season ends when GF ends' approach? Why not have Mail Medal votes still going too?
by R. White » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:14 pm
by cracka » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:32 pm
R. White wrote:Silly statement JQ. I too was under the assumption that relegation points ended at the end of the minor round. Having said that I was very happy when the loosly worded rules allowed the challenge. Looking back at the judges ruling, I think it makes sense to include finals in relegation points. If a team is good enough to earn the right to play finals they deserve the advantage to earn extra points over teams that didn't make the finals. I understand there are some difficulties with this based on the finals system (a team finishing 4th has the possibility to play more finals that 1st) but I think the rules should be re written to include finals.
by Legs Man » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:16 pm
cracka wrote:R. White wrote:Silly statement JQ. I too was under the assumption that relegation points ended at the end of the minor round. Having said that I was very happy when the loosly worded rules allowed the challenge. Looking back at the judges ruling, I think it makes sense to include finals in relegation points. If a team is good enough to earn the right to play finals they deserve the advantage to earn extra points over teams that didn't make the finals. I understand there are some difficulties with this based on the finals system (a team finishing 4th has the possibility to play more finals that 1st) but I think the rules should be re written to include finals.
Would you have last season & will you & other Echunga supporters still feel the same way if this year another club has a couple of finals wins & it knocks Echunga out.
by cracka » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:45 pm
Legs Man wrote:cracka wrote:R. White wrote:Silly statement JQ. I too was under the assumption that relegation points ended at the end of the minor round. Having said that I was very happy when the loosly worded rules allowed the challenge. Looking back at the judges ruling, I think it makes sense to include finals in relegation points. If a team is good enough to earn the right to play finals they deserve the advantage to earn extra points over teams that didn't make the finals. I understand there are some difficulties with this based on the finals system (a team finishing 4th has the possibility to play more finals that 1st) but I think the rules should be re written to include finals.
Would you have last season & will you & other Echunga supporters still feel the same way if this year another club has a couple of finals wins & it knocks Echunga out.
Unless the points system is overhauled also then there will continue to be problems.
The weighting is incorrect in my opinion and favours the clubs with particularly high numbers of juniors.
It should be A 10 , B 3, S/C 5, J/C 2 which means the junior totals are approx half senior totals.
This gets rid of the safety net the larger clubs have in place via their juniors and makes the A grade the pinnacle.
Personally I would like to see the points system scrapped totally and any side fielding all teams eligible for Central with natural attrition being the deciding influence.
An even allocation to all clubs for apps points must also be implemented to ensure an even opportunity if relegation is to occur.
Their is no room for bias or perceived favouritism within the HFL anymore or we are back where we started.
by running defender » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:14 pm
by R. White » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:08 am
cracka wrote:R. White wrote:Silly statement JQ. I too was under the assumption that relegation points ended at the end of the minor round. Having said that I was very happy when the loosly worded rules allowed the challenge. Looking back at the judges ruling, I think it makes sense to include finals in relegation points. If a team is good enough to earn the right to play finals they deserve the advantage to earn extra points over teams that didn't make the finals. I understand there are some difficulties with this based on the finals system (a team finishing 4th has the possibility to play more finals that 1st) but I think the rules should be re written to include finals.
Would you have last season & will you & other Echunga supporters still feel the same way if this year another club has a couple of finals wins & it knocks Echunga out.
by Yellow & Black » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:01 am
by chopper7 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:25 am
running defender wrote:We at Echunga recriut very carefully out of the 8 recruits 6 of them are zero pts, so by my calculations thats only 6pts if they play Agr.
So chop chop your wrong again, it was prob best we made the grand final cause us country thugs as we were called would have been the only ones to stand up to uriadla"s phsicality not like previous years when they just bashed and crashed there way to playing in the last 6 grand finals and winning 4.
I can remember the only chooks i saw were you guys after half time trying to stop the red & blue machine on our way to the GF.
See you in RD 4 might even slip down for a couple of sasuage rolls if needed. I/B & B/WOOD If you really want to know.
by R. White » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:09 pm
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