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Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby Dog_ger » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:12 pm

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political ... 2p8l2.html




The Prime Minister's new parliamentary secretary, Ed Husic, has been subjected to a torrent of abuse online for being sworn in to his position with a Koran.

Mr Husic became Australia's first Muslim frontbencher on Monday when he was appointed to Kevin Rudd's new-look ministry as parliamentary secretary to the Prime Minister and parliamentary secretary for broadband.

Ed Husic, Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister and Parliamentary Secretary for Broadband, during the swearing-in ceremony at Government House with Governor-General Quentin Bryce.

"This is a wonderful day for multiculturalism, and everything it stands for in our country," Governor-General Quentin Bryce told Mr Husic during the swearing-in ceremony in Canberra on Monday.

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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby RustyCage » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:53 pm

He can swear on whatever book of fairy tales he wants
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:07 pm

Dogger is the today tonight / a current affair demographic.
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby Mickyj » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:19 pm

pafc1870 wrote:He can swear on whatever book of fairy tales he wants


yep I'll pay that one
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:36 pm

Well, Gillard's gone. That certain demographic has to find something else to rail against.

Dog-ger, what exactly is wrong with swearing on the Koran?
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby RustyCage » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:42 pm

I think asking a Muslim to swear on the bible just because that's what we do here would be extremely disrespectful. He took his oath on a book that means as much to him as the bible does to a Christian. In the end it changed nothing at all that will effect anyone else but him, so to read some of the vitriol thrown his way on comments on news sites and social media has been disturbing
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:58 pm

What does an atheist swear on?
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:12 pm

Gillard made an affirmation.
As will I when I'm PM of Australia, or some small, island colony that I've become leader of through a coup.
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Postby Q. » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:04 pm

DW for PM :supz:
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby mick » Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:19 am

Non issue as far as I am concerned
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby shoe boy » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:49 am

pafc1870 wrote:He can swear on whatever book of fairy tales he wants


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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:23 am

How is this news???
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:36 am

I wonder, how many of the people who are up in arms about this actually describe themselves as 'Christian' when asked.
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby gossipgirl » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:30 pm

good on him cant see what the problem is
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby Psyber » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:09 pm

pafc1870 wrote:He can swear on whatever book of fairy tales he wants
pafc1870 wrote:I think asking a Muslim to swear on the bible just because that's what we do here would be extremely disrespectful. He took his oath on a book that means as much to him as the bible does to a Christian. In the end it changed nothing at all that will effect anyone else but him, so to read some of the vitriol thrown his way on comments on news sites and social media has been disturbing

I agree with "pafc1870" 0n both counts here.
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby Magpiespower » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:22 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:What does an atheist swear on?


The Atheist Bible...

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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby dedja » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:05 pm

gossipgirl wrote:good on him cant see what the problem is


Nothing.

The OP on the other hand ...
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby Psyber » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:37 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:What does an atheist swear on?
In courts you have the option to make a legal declaration rather than swear on any religious book.

However, when I was charged with "Speed Dangerous" in 1987 my Barrister mate, who represented me, advised me to swear on the Bible if I was comfortable to do so because the particular Magistrate we had was a practising Christian, and the Magistrate later commented in his judgement in my favour that he was impressed that I had held the Bible throughout my testimony.
(I'm very flexible about that sort of thing, not a campaigning Atheist... ;) )
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby dedja » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:46 pm

Swing both ways there Psybe? :D
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Re: Australia - Pledging your allegance on the Koran

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:48 am

Magpiespower wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:What does an atheist swear on?


The Atheist Bible...

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