by Sojourner » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:05 am
by redandblack » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:25 am
by Psyber » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:35 am
It all made sense to me.redandblack wrote:Not really.
Starts with a non-sequitur and finishes with a lack of economic understanding.
Standard conservative fodder.
by redandblack » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:45 am
by smac » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:52 am
by Psyber » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:53 am
I'd be inclined to dispute whether the debt increase did anything, or was anything but an attempt to buy good will and appear to be doing something.redandblack wrote:... The fact is that that debt increase insulated Australia from the worst effects of the GFC and meant that our economy is now one of the very best performing economies in the world. That debt kept people in work and the economy in good shape.
by redandblack » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:57 am
smac wrote:Why do you keep quoting Abbott, when you think he knows noting?
by redandblack » Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:01 pm
Psyber wrote:I'd be inclined to dispute whether the debt increase did anything, or was anything but an attempt to buy good will and appear to be doing something.redandblack wrote:... The fact is that that debt increase insulated Australia from the worst effects of the GFC and meant that our economy is now one of the very best performing economies in the world. That debt kept people in work and the economy in good shape.
Although I'm not a big fan of Paul Keating, I respect the fact that he didn't resort to this populist policy in the 1987-88 crisis when shares dropped 40%, and property values dropped more than they did this time.
In my view it was the mining boom, and the fact that we didn't already have debt that insulated us, not the so called "stimulus".
Promising to support the banks to prevent panic was the one good common sense thing the ALP did.
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:55 pm
by redandblack » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:16 pm
by Media Park » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:39 pm
redandblack wrote:That's one opinion.
Suits an agenda, I suppose
Wedgie wrote:I wear skin tight arseless leather pants, wtf do you wear?
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:46 pm
by redandblack » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:00 pm
Media Park wrote:redandblack wrote:That's one opinion.
Suits an agenda, I suppose
As is yours champ.
by redandblack » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:02 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:No agenda
What would Swan have done if he didn't have all that money in the bank?
He was a very lucky man
World's greatest treasurer - my ass.
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:10 pm
redandblack wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:No agenda
What would Swan have done if he didn't have all that money in the bank?
He was a very lucky man
World's greatest treasurer - my ass.
Well, he didn't have much in the bank when he took over.
He immediately had a GFC to deal with.
World's greatest Treasurer - Yes. If he's not, who do you think is?
by redandblack » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:25 pm
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:31 pm
redandblack wrote:That's a relief
Amazed? I suppose that's because I don't just parrot 'accepted fact' when it's just not true.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/outlook- ... -b3ef.html
As I said, Messrs Howard and Costello squandered their money on middle and upper-income welfare and didn't leave much of a surplus.
The ALP have been in government for more than 4 years now. Interest rates are low and falling, unemployment is low, growth is better than most of the world and we're better off than almost all of the rest of the world. But you can't give an ounce of credit, even when the facts such as official figures show the position.
Presumably also you still don't have a candidate to challenge Mr Swann?
by mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:41 pm
by dedja » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:07 pm
redandblack wrote:That's a relief
Amazed? I suppose that's because I don't just parrot 'accepted fact' when it's just not true.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/outlook- ... -b3ef.html
As I said, Messrs Howard and Costello squandered their money on middle and upper-income welfare and didn't leave much of a surplus.
The ALP have been in government for more than 4 years now. Interest rates are low and falling, unemployment is low, growth is better than most of the world and we're better off than almost all of the rest of the world. But you can't give an ounce of credit, even when the facts such as official figures show the position.
Presumably also you still don't have a candidate to challenge Mr Swann?
by redandblack » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:37 pm
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