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tigerpie wrote:

Q. wrote:Net government debt at a record high $430 billion, up 143% since to 2013 election and now @ 21.5% GDP. LIBerALs ARe TEh BeST ecONoMiC MAnaGers

No way. Fudged numbers, fake news, smokescreens... Insert sarcasm emoji here!
These clowns are not funny anymore.
They hang their hat on being great business and economic geniuses.
Sub them out for a year 10 economics class!

As long as it is not a class I have to teach... I couldn't put up with those guys in a classroom.... would have nightmares just thinking about it

NSW Water Minister Melinda Pavey lifting Pumping Embargoes along the Darling and Surround Rivers a week after heavy rains, why sections Down Stream are still dry as a bone.

bulldogproud wrote:

tigerpie wrote:

Q. wrote:Net government debt at a record high $430 billion, up 143% since to 2013 election and now @ 21.5% GDP. LIBerALs ARe TEh BeST ecONoMiC MAnaGers

No way. Fudged numbers, fake news, smokescreens... Insert sarcasm emoji here!
These clowns are not funny anymore.
They hang their hat on being great business and economic geniuses.
Sub them out for a year 10 economics class!

As long as it is not a class I have to teach... I couldn't put up with those guys in a classroom.... would have nightmares just thinking about it

Bring back capital punishment I'd be all over teaching this pack of fools.
Not sure what I'd do with Cash though?

Our pentecostal nutter PM claims he predicted COVID-19 four years ago.

After bagging RUdd for a decade, it will be interesting to see how he paints their stimulus package.

Q. wrote:Our pentecostal nutter PM claims he predicted COVID-19 four years ago.

After bagging RUdd for a decade, it will be interesting to see how he paints their stimulus package.

Blind Freddy can see that it needs a 'bottom-up' approach rather than their very likely 'trickle-down'. Money needs to be spent immediately. If it is given to those in need, they WILL spend every cent.

$500 to Newstart recipients. Pokie barons in lower socioeconomic areas, KFC, Macca's and the local dealer man are rubbing their hands together.*


*Offered as comedic value, not a reflection of all Newstart recipients.

Booney wrote:$500 to Newstart recipients. Pokie barons in lower socioeconomic areas, KFC, Macca's and the local dealer man are rubbing their hands together.*


*Offered as comedic value, not a reflection of all Newstart recipients.

And will give the Liberals an excuse to push through their drug testing of Newstart recipients trial.

Magellan wrote:

Booney wrote:$500 to Newstart recipients. Pokie barons in lower socioeconomic areas, KFC, Macca's and the local dealer man are rubbing their hands together.*


*Offered as comedic value, not a reflection of all Newstart recipients.

And will give the Liberals an excuse to push through their drug testing of Newstart recipients trial.

As it should. Why should people who test positive to any drugs receive any payment from the government

Jim05 wrote:

Magellan wrote:And will give the Liberals an excuse to push through their drug testing of Newstart recipients trial.

As it should. Why should people who test positive to any drugs receive any payment from the government

The concept has been extensively studied. Rates of drug and alcohol problems in welfare recipients are no greater than those among the general population or among people who do not receive welfare benefits.

a) it unfairly constructs welfare recipients as deviants
b) it doesn't work
c) it costs the taxpayer more than it saves

Q. wrote:

Jim05 wrote:

Magellan wrote:And will give the Liberals an excuse to push through their drug testing of Newstart recipients trial.

As it should. Why should people who test positive to any drugs receive any payment from the government

The concept has been extensively studied. Rates of drug and alcohol problems in welfare recipients are no greater than those among the general population or among people who do not receive welfare benefits.

a) it unfairly constructs welfare recipients as deviants
b) it doesn't work
c) it costs the taxpayer more than it saves

Why are they treated so special?
Many workplaces including mine has mandatory drug testing which can lead to being sacked and getting no pay. Why should welfare recipients be any different.

Jim05 wrote:

Magellan wrote:

Booney wrote:$500 to Newstart recipients. Pokie barons in lower socioeconomic areas, KFC, Macca's and the local dealer man are rubbing their hands together.*


*Offered as comedic value, not a reflection of all Newstart recipients.

And will give the Liberals an excuse to push through their drug testing of Newstart recipients trial.

As it should. Why should people who test positive to any drugs receive any payment from the government

If you adopt that stance, and fair enough if you do, then testing must encompass everyone in the public service, including administration and the parliament, plus government contractors and consultants, because they all receive payments from the government.

Unsurprisingly, the trial only focuses on the more vulnerable who receive government assistance. Seems pointless if it does not target those who are in positions of power and influence or buildings stuff like bridges or giving high-level advice whom the community would not expect them to be off their tits high on goofballs.

Magellan wrote:

Jim05 wrote:

Magellan wrote:

Booney wrote:$500 to Newstart recipients. Pokie barons in lower socioeconomic areas, KFC, Macca's and the local dealer man are rubbing their hands together.*


*Offered as comedic value, not a reflection of all Newstart recipients.

And will give the Liberals an excuse to push through their drug testing of Newstart recipients trial.

As it should. Why should people who test positive to any drugs receive any payment from the government

If you adopt that stance, and fair enough if you do, then testing must encompass everyone in the public service, including administration and the parliament, plus government contractors and consultants, because they all receive payments from the government.

Unsurprisingly, the trial only focuses on the more vulnerable who receive government assistance. Seems pointless if it does not target those who are in positions of power and influence whom the community would not want them off their tits high on goofballs.

I agree in the point that all government workers should be tested.
We have had mandatory testing for years and it works fine, I can’t believe more businesses don’t do it.

Good for the goose, good for the gander. We all know why only those on the Newstart are targeted, the Libs base responds to kicking dole bludgers.

This also begs the question of what business does the government have interfering in people's personal lives. Not your typical classical liberal - small government - free market - personal liberty - IPA approach to policy.

Then again, that side of politics in Australia today seems keen to shit on its Menzian principles by wanting to subsidise and operate coal fired power stations that (a) are typically performed by private enterprise and (b) and which the market says is bad idea. Or telling people who they can marry.

Jim05 wrote:We have had mandatory testing for years and it works fine, I can’t believe more businesses don’t do it.

Because it's expensive, dehumanising and pointless for most.

Scott Morrison trying to sell his stimulus package:

"Now, this is, as I said, 1.2% of GDP. To give you some comparison, when the initial stimulus was done for the GFC many years ago, those payments equated to some 0.88% of GDP in that package which was, as you know, supported by the Coalition, and that used similar measures"

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure it was you feckless liar

Q. wrote:Scott Morrison trying to sell his stimulus package:

"Now, this is, as I said, 1.2% of GDP. To give you some comparison, when the initial stimulus was done for the GFC many years ago, those payments equated to some 0.88% of GDP in that package which was, as you know, supported by the Coalition, and that used similar measures"

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure it was you feckless liar

Supported by the COALition????? Pfft!!! For the past ten years, the LNP have been vehemently stating their opposition to this.

The Coronavirus is a get out of jail card for governments when the country officially goes into recession.

The country is already in a recession....

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Q. wrote:

Jim05 wrote:We have had mandatory testing for years and it works fine, I can’t believe more businesses don’t do it.

Because it's expensive, dehumanising and pointless for most.

Being a truck driver we regularly get drug & alcohol tested. I've never felt dehumanised. I'd actually prefer more testing for drivers.

Q. wrote:Scott Morrison trying to sell his stimulus package:

"Now, this is, as I said, 1.2% of GDP. To give you some comparison, when the initial stimulus was done for the GFC many years ago, those payments equated to some 0.88% of GDP in that package which was, as you know, supported by the Coalition, and that used similar measures"

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure it was you feckless liar

Raising Newstart won't work.

There's no need to raise Newstart.

No, we're not looking at an increase in Newstart.

F*ck, give everyone on Newstart $750 now!!!

Jim05 wrote:

Magellan wrote:

Booney wrote:$500 to Newstart recipients. Pokie barons in lower socioeconomic areas, KFC, Macca's and the local dealer man are rubbing their hands together.*


*Offered as comedic value, not a reflection of all Newstart recipients.

And will give the Liberals an excuse to push through their drug testing of Newstart recipients trial.

As it should. Why should people who test positive to any drugs receive any payment from the government

Because addiction is an illness that needs treatment, just like any mental illness.