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Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:29 pm
by dedja
Booney wrote:
scoob wrote:The death penalty isn't a deterrent..... :lol: :lol: :lol:


To simplify it as you need it to be, if the death penalty was a deterrent then states/countries with the death penalty should have zero % crime rates. Would you agree?


Many have tried to survey the crims that have been executed to see whether they would re-offend but unfortunately none responded because they were ... well ... faarking dead.

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:32 pm
by tigerpie
Yeah its a lasting side effect.

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:42 am
by scoob
Booney wrote:
scoob wrote:The death penalty isn't a deterrent..... :lol: :lol: :lol:


To simplify it as you need it to be, if the death penalty was a deterrent then states/countries with the death penalty should have zero % crime rates. Would you agree?

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On a side note, I think that more minimum security prisons / detention centres built in arid locations where criminals have offended two or three times with smaller crimes ( I'll say small time drug dealers, thieves etc ) are incarcerated for 2-3 months upon a second offence to give them a "taste"* of jail could be a deterrent.

Here, spend 3 months out the back of Innaminka and see if this type of lifestyle suits you, if not, clean your act up or the next time it'll be three years.

The amount of insignificant, trivial "penalties" handed out to small time criminals (who would seem bound for bigger crimes/offences) are simply laughable. No wonder they become repeat offenders.


Let me simplify it for you... as you seem to need it to be dumb down a bit.... If the punishment for speeding is the death penalty would you speed?

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:50 am
by Q.
People would still speed.

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:04 am
by scoob
Q. wrote:People would still speed.


Maybe, but I'm sure less people would speed - if they did and got caught they wouldn't do it again.

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:11 am
by shoe boy
scoob wrote:
Q. wrote:People would still speed.


Maybe, but I'm sure less people would speed - if they did and got caught they wouldn't do it again.


Scoob the USA kills more of its citizens than any other country and its jails and death row are full!! DETERRENT?

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:16 am
by tigerpie
shoe boy wrote:
scoob wrote:
Q. wrote:People would still speed.


Maybe, but I'm sure less people would speed - if they did and got caught they wouldn't do it again.


Scoob the USA kills more of its citizens than any other country and its jails and death row are full!! DETERRENT?

Thats because there are lots of dickheads in the USA.

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:58 am
by Booney
tigerpie wrote:
shoe boy wrote:
scoob wrote:
Q. wrote:People would still speed.

Maybe, but I'm sure less people would speed - if they did and got caught they wouldn't do it again.

Scoob the USA kills more of its citizens than any other country and its jails and death row are full!! DETERRENT?

Thats because there are lots of dickheads in the USA.


A few in Australia, too. ;)

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:59 am
by Booney
shoe boy wrote:
scoob wrote:
Q. wrote:People would still speed.

Maybe, but I'm sure less people would speed - if they did and got caught they wouldn't do it again.

Scoob the USA kills more of its citizens than any other country and its jails and death row are full!! DETERRENT?


Scoob?

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:04 am
by scoob
Booney wrote:
shoe boy wrote:
scoob wrote:
Q. wrote:People would still speed.

Maybe, but I'm sure less people would speed - if they did and got caught they wouldn't do it again.

Scoob the USA kills more of its citizens than any other country and its jails and death row are full!! DETERRENT?


Scoob?


Booney?

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:06 am
by bennymacca
come on guys, at least be clever with your insults :D

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:51 am
by Booney
shoe boy wrote:
scoob wrote:
Q. wrote:People would still speed.


Maybe, but I'm sure less people would speed - if they did and got caught they wouldn't do it again.


Scoob the USA kills more of its citizens than any other country and its jails and death row are full!! DETERRENT?


I'll try again.

What.....do......you.......think.....of.......that.....,scoob?

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:56 am
by scoob
Covering old ground... again I ask you this :

Let me simplify it for you... as you seem to need it to be dumb down a bit.... If the punishment for speeding is the death penalty would you speed?

I won't worry about typing it slow for you.

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:01 pm
by Q.
People would still speed.

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:29 pm
by bennymacca
people are motivated by lots of things - greed, desperation, jealousy, anger, and many other things. when you are in an emotional or desperate state, the severity of the punishment is nowhere near the forefront of your mind.

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:33 pm
by scoob
Q. wrote:People would still speed.


Maybe, but I'm sure less people would speed - if they did and got caught they wouldn't do it again.

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:43 pm
by Psyber
scoob wrote: Let me simplify it for you... as you seem to need it to be dumb down a bit.... If the punishment for speeding is the death penalty would you speed?

Realistically. there is no way a death penalty for speeding would become a reality.
I'd certainly be on the streets protesting the idea if it were mooted seriously.

By contrast, while I wouldn't vote for a death penalty for crimes like murder, I probably wouldn't be out on the streets protesting against the idea either.

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:54 am
by woodublieve12
Psyber wrote:
scoob wrote: Let me simplify it for you... as you seem to need it to be dumb down a bit.... If the punishment for speeding is the death penalty would you speed?

Realistically. there is no way a death penalty for speeding would become a reality.
I'd certainly be on the streets protesting the idea if it were mooted seriously.

By contrast, while I wouldn't vote for a death penalty for crimes like murder, I probably wouldn't be out on the streets protesting against the idea either.

if they can put you down for speeding, i dont like your chances if you protest ;)

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:38 pm
by Roxy the Rat Girl
Psyber wrote:Realistically. there is no way a death penalty for speeding would become a reality.
I'd certainly be on the streets protesting the idea if it were mooted seriously.

By contrast, while I wouldn't vote for a death penalty for crimes like murder, I probably wouldn't be out on the streets protesting against the idea either.


I couldn't image you on the streets protesting anything Psyber.

Re: Death Penalty

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:22 am
by Psyber
Roxy the Rat Girl wrote:
Psyber wrote:Realistically. there is no way a death penalty for speeding would become a reality.
I'd certainly be on the streets protesting the idea if it were mooted seriously.

By contrast, while I wouldn't vote for a death penalty for crimes like murder, I probably wouldn't be out on the streets protesting against the idea either.


I couldn't image you on the streets protesting anything Psyber.

You didn't know me in the Vietnam days, when my mail was being opened.
Years later, when I was advising ASIO on an unrelated technical matter, I asked them about it, and they told me it must have been the Federal Police because of how obviously and clumsily done it was at the time.