shoe boy wrote:Cambodia??? really
They've been a signatory to the 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees and the 1967 Protocol since 1992....
by Jimmy_041 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:41 am
shoe boy wrote:Cambodia??? really
by bennymacca » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:52 am
by The Sleeping Giant » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:02 am
by The Sleeping Giant » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:06 am
Q. wrote:The Sleeping Giant wrote:Maybe you should see the boats that the Vietnamese refugees arrived on in the 70's. Extremely expendable, so it isn't a new thing. Darwin museum has some on display if you are ever up this way.
It's not the seventies. They were using seaworthy boats for some time before we politicised this.
by bennymacca » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:17 am
by Jimmy_041 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:45 pm
by bennymacca » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:51 pm
by Jimmy_041 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:30 pm
Article 31: Refugees unlawfully in the country of refuge
Article 31 of the Refugee Convention prohibits states parties from imposing penalties on refugees who, when coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened, enter or are present in their territory without authorisation, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and can show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.
This Article recognises that refugees have a lawful right to enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold valid travel or identity documents. As such, what otherwise be considered illegal actions (eg. entering a country without a visa) should not be treated as such if a person is seeking asylum. This means that it is incorrect to refer to asylum seekers who arrive without authorisation as “illegal”, as they in fact have a lawful right to do so if they are seeking asylum.
Article 31 also prohibits states parties from restricting the freedom of movement of refugees who arrive without authorisation, with the exception of restrictions necessary for regularising their status. Furthermore, such restrictions should be applied only until their status in the country is regularised or they obtain admission into another country.
Under the Refugee Convention, Australia must not penalise a person coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened (within the meaning of the Refugee Convention) because they entered, or are in, Australia illegally, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.
Does this mean that any refugee who has spent a week en route in Indonesia waiting for a boat to Australia can be penalised and denied a permanent protection visa because they could have gone to Jakarta and joined the queue at the UNHCR office rather than awaiting a boat in precarious circumstances?
Having the status of a refugee has never been accepted as a passport to the migration country of one's choice. Then again, the international community has never been so callous or short-sighted as to say that during a mass exodus one has access only to the country next door in seeking protection even if you have family, friends or community members living in a more distant country.
In order for someone to be recognised as a refugee under the Convention, therefore, they must satisfy the following criteria:
The person must be outside their country of origin
The reason for their flight must be a fear of persecution
This fear of persecution must be well founded (ie. they must have experienced it or be likely to experience it if they return)
The persecution must be due to one or more of the five grounds listed in the definition
They must be unwilling or unable to seek the protection of their country
The definition also includes a qualifier which excludes any person who has committed a crime against peace, a war crime, a crime against humanity, a serious non-political crime outside their country of refuge or any other act contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
by tigerhutch » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:01 pm
by bennymacca » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:24 pm
by Jimmy_041 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:42 pm
tigerhutch wrote:baa baa I am a sheep baa baa
by Jimmy_041 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:44 pm
bennymacca wrote:I'm not sure who you are arguing against jimmy, no one here is suggesting anything but genuine refugees be allowed in
by bennymacca » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:29 pm
by Jimmy_041 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:47 pm
by bennymacca » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:02 pm
by Jimmy_041 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:40 am
by Roxy the Rat Girl » Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:36 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:Here you go Benny: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s3965617.htm
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:14 pm
by bennymacca » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:16 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:I watch the ABC more than any other free channel
You'd really enjoy the cartoons on there
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:55 pm
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