Coal Miners to blame for Qld Floods - Brown

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Thank heavens we did not have a nuclear reactor in an area that "never sees flooding".

[Psyber]

"Burning coal is a major cause of global warming.
"Scientists agree that current floods come from record-high temperatures of Australian oceans this season."

In the statement you quote there is not real argument with line two above.
However, line one contains unproven hyperbole.

The current global warming cycle began about 12,500 years ago and was briefly interrupted by a mini cooling cycle between the mid 10th century and the late 19th century.
Coal may be a minor contributor at present, but I agree it should be phased out before it becomes a major one.
If only the Greens were not blind to safe nuclear options recently developed, that could maintain the base load solar systems cannot.

[ I've posted references several times in the past so I won't bother again.]

Sorry Psyber but these are Bob Browns words, not mine.
My lawyers will be contacting your lawyers to negotiate an appropriate out-of-court settlement payment.

I said: "In the statement you quote.."
My legal advice is that I thus demonstrated I acknowledged they were not your words.
My lawyers will submit my costs to your lawyers in response.
[ Sorry - had to delete your smiley's to get mine in.]

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What you should have written was:

"Burning coal is a major cause of global warming.
"Scientists agree that current floods come from record-high temperatures of Australian oceans this season."

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Coal miners have a lot to pay up -

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/one- ... 5993919315

[Psyber]

What you should have written was:

"Burning coal is a major cause of global warming.
"Scientists agree that current floods come from record-high temperatures of Australian oceans this season."

Oh - I missed seeing that effect of pruning the quote - sorry.
Another option was:

" Burning coal is a major cause of global warming.
"Scientists agree that current floods come from record-high temperatures of Australian oceans this season."

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In a related development, two independant studies published in the scientific journal Nature have linked extreme weather events to climate change.

Two independent studies suggest greenhouse gas emissions are linked to more frequent heavy rainfall. The studies, which appear today in the journal Nature, highlight the impact humans are having on extreme weather events, and come less than a month after a set of major flooding events around the world.

Full details, including links to the Nature website, can be found here.

[Psyber]

In a related development, two independant studies published in the scientific journal Nature have linked extreme weather events to climate change.

Two independent studies suggest greenhouse gas emissions are linked to more frequent heavy rainfall. The studies, which appear today in the journal Nature, highlight the impact humans are having on extreme weather events, and come less than a month after a set of major flooding events around the world.

Full details, including links to the Nature website, can be found here.

Of course it is due to climate change - the climate is changing.
The issue of contention is then deciding the change is caused by "greenhouse gas emissions" rather than solar and orbital cycles...

This quote suggests the correlation between climate change and weather patterns was established, but not a link with human activity - the highlighted bit in the quote is an assumption - hence the word "suggests":

They then ran computer models with climate change factored in, which correlated with the rainfall pattern they observed.
"We saw that there was a pattern of change that is simulated by the climate models that is detectable in observation.
So that suggests that humans influence the intensity of precipitation extremes," says study co-author Dr Francis Zwiers.
Prior to this time there had not been a study that had formally identified this human effect in extreme rainfall events.

I'll try to get time to read the full article in Nature and look at their methodology and whether they proved a link to human activity or assumed it from other studies alleging it is so.
The last sentence in the quote is nonsense if they have not proved the link.