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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:10 pm
by morell
Correct.

Where is the jumping up and down about that?!

Doesn't fit the tall poppy trope that ya Aussie battler mahhhht pub tester loves, that's why.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:26 pm
by Trader
Don't worry Morell, next year the CEO will get a $15k pay rise, he'll give half of that to the ATO and the other half to the Grange Golf Club.

The council's books will show $0 next to golf course fees, the CEO gets the same take home package and everyone is happy, even the rate payer who doesn't know he's just spent $15k on something he got for $7k last year, but feels good because the cost is now hidden all under the guise of transparency.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:11 am
by Booney
As long as all the rate payers are happy with their essential services, the council is thriving and the various media platforms create a better customer engagement experience ( corporate masturbation speak ) then everyone is happy.

How is the area going, development wise? Thriving?

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:40 pm
by Dogwatcher
Onkaparinga is the main council down south, maybe they could send the STAR Force in to sort it out...

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:45 pm
by Jimmy_041
Trader wrote:Don't worry Morell, next year the CEO will get a $15k pay rise, he'll give half of that to the ATO and the other half to the Grange Golf Club.

The council's books will show $0 next to golf course fees, the CEO gets the same take home package and everyone is happy, even the rate payer who doesn't know he's just spent $15k on something he got for $7k last year, but feels good because the cost is now hidden all under the guise of transparency.


Innocent question: do councils pay FBT?

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:31 pm
by Trader
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Trader wrote:Don't worry Morell, next year the CEO will get a $15k pay rise, he'll give half of that to the ATO and the other half to the Grange Golf Club.

The council's books will show $0 next to golf course fees, the CEO gets the same take home package and everyone is happy, even the rate payer who doesn't know he's just spent $15k on something he got for $7k last year, but feels good because the cost is now hidden all under the guise of transparency.


Innocent question: do councils pay FBT?


Yes and no.
Often vehicles and memberships etc can be shared in a pool sense such that the individual doesn't pay FTB.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:04 pm
by Jimmy_041
Trader wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Trader wrote:Don't worry Morell, next year the CEO will get a $15k pay rise, he'll give half of that to the ATO and the other half to the Grange Golf Club.

The council's books will show $0 next to golf course fees, the CEO gets the same take home package and everyone is happy, even the rate payer who doesn't know he's just spent $15k on something he got for $7k last year, but feels good because the cost is now hidden all under the guise of transparency.


Innocent question: do councils pay FBT?


Yes and no.
Often vehicles and memberships etc can be shared in a pool sense such that the individual doesn't pay FTB.


I doubt a Kooyonga membership would be pooled so FBT would apply meaning it would be pretty much cost neutral wouldn't it? (I'm not an accountant)

If there is nothing wrong with it, then why did the council pay $22,000 of ratepayers money to try to keep it secret?
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... a6e12106a9

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:13 pm
by Booney
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Trader wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Trader wrote:Don't worry Morell, next year the CEO will get a $15k pay rise, he'll give half of that to the ATO and the other half to the Grange Golf Club.

The council's books will show $0 next to golf course fees, the CEO gets the same take home package and everyone is happy, even the rate payer who doesn't know he's just spent $15k on something he got for $7k last year, but feels good because the cost is now hidden all under the guise of transparency.


Innocent question: do councils pay FBT?


Yes and no.
Often vehicles and memberships etc can be shared in a pool sense such that the individual doesn't pay FTB.


I doubt a Kooyonga membership would be pooled so FBT would apply meaning it would be pretty much cost neutral wouldn't it? (I'm not an accountant)

If there is nothing wrong with it, then why did the council pay $22,000 of ratepayers money to try to keep it secret?
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... a6e12106a9


But....but....$4.8m.....but.....

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:40 pm
by Trader
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Trader wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Trader wrote:Don't worry Morell, next year the CEO will get a $15k pay rise, he'll give half of that to the ATO and the other half to the Grange Golf Club.

The council's books will show $0 next to golf course fees, the CEO gets the same take home package and everyone is happy, even the rate payer who doesn't know he's just spent $15k on something he got for $7k last year, but feels good because the cost is now hidden all under the guise of transparency.


Innocent question: do councils pay FBT?


Yes and no.
Often vehicles and memberships etc can be shared in a pool sense such that the individual doesn't pay FTB.


I doubt a Kooyonga membership would be pooled so FBT would apply meaning it would be pretty much cost neutral wouldn't it? (I'm not an accountant)

If there is nothing wrong with it, then why did the council pay $22,000 of ratepayers money to try to keep it secret?
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... a6e12106a9


Also not an accountant so can't confirm, though I'd suspect FTB would only relate to the non-work component of the membership, not the total value?
IE: If they claimed his membership was 80% business use they would only pay FTB on the remaining 20%, (I think).

Cant read the article you linked (paywall) however I suspect that headline is a misrepresentation. They might have spent 22k on legal fees which included confirmation of what they need to disclose, which includes the golf membership. IE: it was a subset of a subset and they've quoted the total figure cause it makes good headlines.

But if we take it on face value, I'd suspect they thought spending 22k now would save them more than 22k worth of media enquires into a storm in a tea cup.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:05 pm
by morell
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Trader wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Trader wrote:Don't worry Morell, next year the CEO will get a $15k pay rise, he'll give half of that to the ATO and the other half to the Grange Golf Club.

The council's books will show $0 next to golf course fees, the CEO gets the same take home package and everyone is happy, even the rate payer who doesn't know he's just spent $15k on something he got for $7k last year, but feels good because the cost is now hidden all under the guise of transparency.


Innocent question: do councils pay FBT?


Yes and no.
Often vehicles and memberships etc can be shared in a pool sense such that the individual doesn't pay FTB.


I doubt a Kooyonga membership would be pooled so FBT would apply meaning it would be pretty much cost neutral wouldn't it? (I'm not an accountant)

If there is nothing wrong with it, then why did the council pay $22,000 of ratepayers money to try to keep it secret?
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... a6e12106a9

Jimmy, for like the 4th time

Many people can't read the articles you link. Copy and paste the pertinent parts.

And yes, Councils pay FBT, but like any business structure things to minimise that as best as possible. Afterall, it would be paid with public money.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:10 pm
by morell
Have to love the spin too. "$22,000 of ratepayers money to keep it secret!"

Translates to "$22,000 of money it was forced to spend in legal fees because of a media beat up to counter an investigation that proved absolutely no wrong doing"

Jimmy going for a role with Today Tonight it seems. Hot tip Jimmy you burgeoning little press reporter you...

That constituted 0.9% of Onkas legal fees for that FY.

Tree and forest.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:53 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
Its all perception.
We perceive we are being ****** over.
The council have done nothing to show we arent being ****** over.

November will be fun.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:00 pm
by GWW
Backflip on Star-Force usage at parties.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:35 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
GWW wrote:Backflip on Star-Force usage at parties.

Good start for Corey

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:35 am
by Jimmy_041
morell wrote:Have to love the spin too. "$22,000 of ratepayers money to keep it secret!"

Translates to "$22,000 of money it was forced to spend in legal fees because of a media beat up to counter an investigation that proved absolutely no wrong doing"

Jimmy going for a role with Today Tonight it seems. Hot tip Jimmy you burgeoning little press reporter you...

That constituted 0.9% of Onkas legal fees for that FY.

Tree and forest.


For someone who loves accusing others of ad hominem, you are the master

Tree and forest?
Nah: hypocrisy

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:45 am
by morell
Oh calm down I was poking fun

Did you expect them to represent themselves or just make up their own legal strategy when that investigation was announced?

Just another beat up article by the appalling Adelaide media.

If we want Councils to stop spending legal fees, we should stop with the petty bullshit like investigating flowers, apple watches and golf memberships.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:33 am
by shoe boy
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
GWW wrote:Backflip on Star-Force usage at parties.

Good start for Corey


Wingard has always been a flog and the interview with Marshall defending him was cringe worthy :lol:

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:04 am
by Booney
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
GWW wrote:Backflip on Star-Force usage at parties.

Good start for Corey


You've got to give people some time to settle into their new jobs, work out what they can and can't do. It's been a long time.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:16 am
by mighty_tiger_79
Booney wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
GWW wrote:Backflip on Star-Force usage at parties.

Good start for Corey


You've got to give people some time to settle into their new jobs, work out what they can and can't do. It's been a long time.



Surely he would know he can't be in charge of the Operations of SAPOL??? Or while in opposition did they not really plan on winning???

I think Corey is suited to the Sport/rec and Tourism portfolios.

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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:51 am
by Executive Member
I see Wade has taken to publically smacking down his leader in a press conference as he stood next to him

Looks like the Wet's and Dry's have started early

Last time they at least let Dean Brown get a couple more months in :lol:

I wonder if Marshall has asked Julie Bishop if there is somewhere she can send Vicki off to in a nice little diplomatic post ;)