morell wrote:Get some perspective FFS. We're living in relative paradise.
Sure, but doesn't mean we shouldn't be pushing for government to address things like wage stagnation, housing affordability, corporate tax avoidance etc
by Q. » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:25 pm
morell wrote:Get some perspective FFS. We're living in relative paradise.
by morell » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:34 pm
by morell » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:29 pm
and yet just 5 years ago, we had people bemoaning the lack of infrastructure in this very thread. Go back and read it.heater31 wrote:we have probably gone backwards as a whole as a result of 15 years of Labor.
by bennymacca » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:40 pm
morell wrote:This is for SA only:Q. wrote:Is that total welfare, including pension, disability, unemployment etc?
ABSTUDY (Living allowance) 0.05%
ABSTUDY (Non-living allowance) 0.07%
Age Pension 16.23%
Austudy 0.30%
Carer Allowance 3.66%
Carer Allowance (Child Health Care Card only) 0.12%
Carer Payment 1.52%
Commonwealth Seniors Health Card 1.93%
Disability Support Pension 5.17%
Double Orphan Pension 0.01%
Family Tax Benefit A 8.58%
Family Tax Benefit B 6.67%
Health Care Card 9.13%
Low Income Card 2.62%
Newstart Allowance 5.11%
Parenting Payment Partnered 0.59%
Parenting Payment Single 1.45%
Partner Allowance 0.02%
Pensioner Concession Card 27.02%
Sickness Allowance 0.04%
Special Benefit 0.03%
Widow Allowance 0.08%
Widow B Pension 0.00%
Wife Pension (Partner on Age Pension) 0.04%
Wife Pension (Partner on Disability Support Pension) 0.04%
Youth Allowance (other) 0.66%
Youth Allowance (student and apprentice) 1.25%
Commonwealth Rent Assistance (income units*) 7.62%
Myth: Welfare is for lazy good for nothing free loaders
Reality: Welfare is for old people and those with disabilities.
by Jimmy_041 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:09 pm
by Jimmy_041 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:11 pm
morell wrote:Those ******* grannys and cripples. They're ripping us good hard working taxpayers off.
I mean I had to buy my coffee table at Ikea! IKEA!
#shame #basketcase
From 2002 to 2013, IKEA Supply AG charged the Australian arm $2.67 billion as the cost of products. These were sold in the Australian stores for $4.76 billion. After other costs IKEA ended up with total pre-tax profits of $103 million for the period, on which it paid $31 million in tax.
by Psyber » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:15 pm
by morell » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:25 pm
Do you live in society? If so you cost the public purse plenty. Do you drive on roads? Do you ever need a doctor? etcPsyber wrote:I'm delighted to be costing the public purse almost nothing.
Yes, and thanks to inflation your wage also grew. Speaking to a guy at work who recently retired he said he recalled getting 15% pay rises. In less than a decade in his salary, whilst working in the same job, more than doubled.Psyber wrote:However, a recent discussion with friends of the issue of the wealth of the "baby boomers" and to some extent pre-baby boomers like me, prompted me to reflect on the changes over the years and on the the fact that in my first year of paid work (1968), after graduating from Medical School at Adelaide University, I worked an average of 90 hours a week and that in the next 5 years I averaged 55 to 60 hours a week all on fixed salaries and no overtime payments. (That first year worked out to about 57 cents and hour!)
My first home - 2 bedroom and about 12 years old - bought in 1969 cost 3.3 times my salary the previous year, which was pretty good because the first house my parents bought in 1956 including necessary repairs cost 5.7 times the family income. (My father was 51 at the time.)
by Dogwatcher » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:46 pm
by morell » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:24 am
I have the week off!Dogwatcher wrote:They're only at work longer because some of them are on here, posting multiple posts in a day and reading posts spread over 145 bloody pages.
Totally agree.Dogwatcher wrote:Politics is always a glass half full process. No matter which glass you drink out of.
by Jimmy_041 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:17 am
by Q. » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:29 am
Jimmy_041 wrote:I started investing in super long before it became compulsory and am financially secure heading towards retirement
I still pay a lot of tax and my investments are now positively geared. If you think tax isn’t evil, then neither are tax deductions for costs to create the profits to tax. I have always said we should cut tax to 15% and do away with deductions
I still eat breakfast at home and would laugh at the suggestion of paying $25 for smashed avocado / tomato on toast and a latte
by Jimmy_041 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:43 am
Q. wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:I started investing in super long before it became compulsory and am financially secure heading towards retirement
I still pay a lot of tax and my investments are now positively geared. If you think tax isn’t evil, then neither are tax deductions for costs to create the profits to tax. I have always said we should cut tax to 15% and do away with deductions
I still eat breakfast at home and would laugh at the suggestion of paying $25 for smashed avocado / tomato on toast and a latte
Due to the current inflated wage to mortgage ratio, families don't have expendable income to salary sacrifice into super.
by morell » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:57 am
South Australia is such a hard place to live in huhJimmy_041 wrote:Got to love the “progressive” class
Want to change everything but still want the, so called, easy bits of their predecessors
I started investing in super long before it became compulsory and am financially secure heading towards retirement
I still pay a lot of tax and my investments are now positively geared. If you think tax isn’t evil, then neither are tax deductions for costs to create the profits to tax. I have always said we should cut tax to 15% and do away with deductions
I still eat breakfast at home and would laugh at the suggestion of paying $25 for smashed avocado / tomato on toast and a latte
You look at wealthy people with envy and think death duties are a good idea. I admire them for their hard work and will move overseas to avoid death duties
And I’m with you Dogwatcher
by Booney » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:58 am
Jimmy_041 wrote:Q. wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:I started investing in super long before it became compulsory and am financially secure heading towards retirement
I still pay a lot of tax and my investments are now positively geared. If you think tax isn’t evil, then neither are tax deductions for costs to create the profits to tax. I have always said we should cut tax to 15% and do away with deductions
I still eat breakfast at home and would laugh at the suggestion of paying $25 for smashed avocado / tomato on toast and a latte
Due to the current inflated wage to mortgage ratio, families don't have expendable income to salary sacrifice into super.
If you are PAYE, then you don't have to. Your employer does it for you
I invested into super 10 years before it came in to secure my future
by Booney » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:58 am
morell wrote:South Australia is such a hard place to live in huhJimmy_041 wrote:Got to love the “progressive” class
Want to change everything but still want the, so called, easy bits of their predecessors
I started investing in super long before it became compulsory and am financially secure heading towards retirement
I still pay a lot of tax and my investments are now positively geared. If you think tax isn’t evil, then neither are tax deductions for costs to create the profits to tax. I have always said we should cut tax to 15% and do away with deductions
I still eat breakfast at home and would laugh at the suggestion of paying $25 for smashed avocado / tomato on toast and a latte
You look at wealthy people with envy and think death duties are a good idea. I admire them for their hard work and will move overseas to avoid death duties
And I’m with you Dogwatcher
by Jimmy_041 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:13 am
Booney wrote:morell wrote:South Australia is such a hard place to live in huhJimmy_041 wrote:Got to love the “progressive” class
Want to change everything but still want the, so called, easy bits of their predecessors
I started investing in super long before it became compulsory and am financially secure heading towards retirement
I still pay a lot of tax and my investments are now positively geared. If you think tax isn’t evil, then neither are tax deductions for costs to create the profits to tax. I have always said we should cut tax to 15% and do away with deductions
I still eat breakfast at home and would laugh at the suggestion of paying $25 for smashed avocado / tomato on toast and a latte
You look at wealthy people with envy and think death duties are a good idea. I admire them for their hard work and will move overseas to avoid death duties
And I’m with you Dogwatcher
The top end of town enjoy life in every part of the world mate, it's not them the average schmo like me has concerns about.
We baby boomers should actually sit back and enjoy the fruits of our hard work and not worry about the future of others
by morell » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:17 am
by morell » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:31 am
by Jimmy_041 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:33 am
morell wrote:Oh I agree, its just hilarious that those that are most fortunate complain the most.
I would have no trouble with someone being 22, frustrated, unemployed and struggling wanting to rip up the system to a certain degree. I'd still steer them towards positivity...
... but when people are financially secure but then have endless complaints about the society that enabled that to occur - with shit like whining about power prices or ESL's??
Give me a spell. The privileged never see their privilege - that's what bites my bumhole.
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