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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:44 pm
by Jimmy_041
I'd love to visit the Wortley house
60's brick veneer with gold taps and built in industrial hair dryers
Do you reckon Dana scabs a lift home every night?

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:47 pm
by stan
Jimmy_041 wrote:I'd love to visit the Wortley house
60's brick veneer with gold taps and built in industrial hair dryers
Do you reckon Dana scabs a lift home every night?

But they are fighting for you Jim. Maybe she'll invite you over. She might even set up some poor people food for you because us simpletons are used to their glamour foods.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:59 pm
by Jimmy_041
They'd be able to buy me 3 times over Stan - thanks to us

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:00 pm
by Psyber
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Psyber wrote: I went home to my wife in 1996 with the news I had just been assured by Alexander Downer that he would back me for a safe Liberal state seat.
She went right off and suggested she wouldn't stand in my way but wouldn't stick around for the role of MP's wife and hence public property.

Recently I got an email from the Liberal Party seeking nominations to become candidates and I looked at it for 45 seconds before deleting it.

My wife's winning comment in 1996 was, "You're too idealistic, you'll hate the compromises you have to make, and that will make you Hell to live with!"

Was she talking generally or if you went into politics?


Well she was talking about if I went into politics specifically at the time, but it is probably generally true...

I had dinner with another (lawyer) friend and Greg Crafter one weekend recently and we had a healthy 3-way political debate in which I was probably in the middle ground. Later in the evening Greg was urging me to stand for state parliament - I think he likes idealists, being one himself.

(Lets not read any conspiracy into the fact that I was recently introduced to Martin Hamilton Smith's sister by another friend who knows Greg...)

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:01 pm
by Dogwatcher
Everyone knows Greg, Psyb. ;)

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:18 pm
by Psyber
Dogwatcher wrote:Everyone knows Greg, Psyb. ;)

Yes, he's a friendly type and very approachable.
He was at Woodville High with me for about two years.
Terry Groom was there at the time too.

The intro I referred to came through another of the old school group and I'm confident it was totally coincidental.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:12 pm
by Squawk
Jimmy_041 wrote:Exactly what I was saying last night

Try this list: - I've made comments on the ones who (I know) have their merits.
Jay Weatherill - good at his job but surrounded by a poor team of advisers. Greatest weakness is that his 10 years in Cabinet before becoming Premier had only ever seen him in charge of 'soft' portfolios. He never had Police, Treasury, Health, for example.
Annabel Digance
Chris Picton
Dana Wortley
Eddie Hughes
Frances Bedford
Gail Gago MLC
Hon Gerry Kandelaars MLC
Hon John Gazzola MLC
Hon Kyam Maher MLC
Hon Russell Wortley MLC
Ian Hunter MLC - a good Minister who takes his work seriously and is committed. Didn't actually want to be a Minister. Is very different as a politician which often makes him easy target for criticism.
Jack Snelling
Jennifer Rankine
John Rau - very astute. Doesn't suffer fools and silently demands you get to the point quickly.
Jon Gee
Katrine Hildyard
Lee Odenwalder
Leesa Vlahos
Leon Bignell
Michael Atkinson
Paul Caica - a genuine bloke. Cant fathom why he was run out of town.
Steph Key
Stephen Mullighan - on the top shelf. Quality person, quality policy maker. Should be the next leader for sure but as you say, Kouts is coming off a long run and will play Bodyline cricket at his own team mates if he has too.
Susan Close - Don't overlook this one.
Tom Kenyon
Tom Koutsantonis
Tony Piccolo - very genuine, very bright. Hasn't been given enough juicy jobs yet to get traction and profile. Works hard.
Tung Ngo
Zoe Bettison

You left one off - Bernard Finnegan. Oh, hang on a minute....yes, now I understand.

Only Mullighan or maybe Kenyon could take over as Premier

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:33 am
by Jimmy_041
Squawk wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:Exactly what I was saying last night

Try this list: - I've made comments on the ones who (I know) have their merits.
Jay Weatherill - good at his job but surrounded by a poor team of advisers. Greatest weakness is that his 10 years in Cabinet before becoming Premier had only ever seen him in charge of 'soft' portfolios. He never had Police, Treasury, Health, for example.
Annabel Digance
Chris Picton
Dana Wortley
Eddie Hughes
Frances Bedford
Gail Gago MLC
Hon Gerry Kandelaars MLC
Hon John Gazzola MLC
Hon Kyam Maher MLC
Hon Russell Wortley MLC
Ian Hunter MLC - a good Minister who takes his work seriously and is committed. Didn't actually want to be a Minister. Is very different as a politician which often makes him easy target for criticism.
Jack Snelling
Jennifer Rankine
John Rau - very astute. Doesn't suffer fools and silently demands you get to the point quickly.
Jon Gee
Katrine Hildyard
Lee Odenwalder
Leesa Vlahos
Leon Bignell
Michael Atkinson
Paul Caica - a genuine bloke. Cant fathom why he was run out of town.
Steph Key
Stephen Mullighan - on the top shelf. Quality person, quality policy maker. Should be the next leader for sure but as you say, Kouts is coming off a long run and will play Bodyline cricket at his own team mates if he has too.
Susan Close - Don't overlook this one.
Tom Kenyon
Tom Koutsantonis
Tony Piccolo - very genuine, very bright. Hasn't been given enough juicy jobs yet to get traction and profile. Works hard.
Tung Ngo
Zoe Bettison

You left one off - Bernard Finnegan. Oh, hang on a minute....yes, now I understand.

Only Mullighan or maybe Kenyon could take over as Premier


I agree with all of your comments except Hunter whom I've never met so I'll stay neutral on him for the moment.
Labor don't have "stubby fingers" on their website hence why I left him off. No doubt they wish he would just go away. He's a classic "you can't pick your family". When the SDA says "he's your man" you have to suck it up. And haven't they just given us some beauties.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:49 am
by stan
Psyber wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Psyber wrote: I went home to my wife in 1996 with the news I had just been assured by Alexander Downer that he would back me for a safe Liberal state seat.
She went right off and suggested she wouldn't stand in my way but wouldn't stick around for the role of MP's wife and hence public property.

Recently I got an email from the Liberal Party seeking nominations to become candidates and I looked at it for 45 seconds before deleting it.

My wife's winning comment in 1996 was, "You're too idealistic, you'll hate the compromises you have to make, and that will make you Hell to live with!"

Was she talking generally or if you went into politics?


Well she was talking about if I went into politics specifically at the time, but it is probably generally true...

I had dinner with another (lawyer) friend and Greg Crafter one weekend recently and we had a healthy 3-way political debate in which I was probably in the middle ground. Later in the evening Greg was urging me to stand for state parliament - I think he likes idealists, being one himself.

(Lets not read any conspiracy into the fact that I was recently introduced to Martin Hamilton Smith's sister by another friend who knows Greg...)

You should stand psyber. I'd vote for you but only if you dropped your real name an offically called yourself Psyber [emoji6]

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:17 pm
by Psyber
As I said, it took me about 45 seconds to dismiss the idea of standing at this stage when I have more interesting things to do and don't need a job anyway...

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:23 am
by stan
Psyber wrote:As I said, it took me about 45 seconds to dismiss the idea of standing at this stage when I have more interesting things to do and don't need a job anyway...

Fair enough. I feel that there maybe other like minded people who would be suited to politics that are put off at the moment by the current state of play. Which is probably why we look at the current crop of politicians and dont see much value.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:55 am
by Jimmy_041
stan wrote:
Psyber wrote:As I said, it took me about 45 seconds to dismiss the idea of standing at this stage when I have more interesting things to do and don't need a job anyway...

Fair enough. I feel that there maybe other like minded people who would be suited to politics that are put off at the moment by the current state of play. Which is probably why we look at the current crop of politicians and dont see much value.


My point exactly
I wouldn't be able to bald face lie

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:11 am
by dedja
Not sure about that, but compromising your principles and having to abide by the party line would be high up there as a reason not to put your name forward.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:18 am
by Dogwatcher
Was funny listening to Atko explaining why two by-elections could not be run on the same day on 891 this morning.
"I'll wear the decision," he said. I'm sure those in the Hills will remember that.
That sort of decision-making is why people are so cynical about politicians.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:31 pm
by Jimmy_041
Dogwatcher wrote:Was funny listening to Atko explaining why two by-elections could not be run on the same day on 891 this morning.
"I'll wear the decision," he said. I'm sure those in the Hills will remember that.
That sort of decision-making is why people are so cynical about politicians.


He got caught out and in fact openly contradicted himself
Couldn't remember what he said last night
Clearly Labor were ready with a candidate and want the by-election ASAP as Duluk has moved to Davenport
Labor dont have a candidate for Davenport yet

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:35 pm
by stan
CFS volunteers not happy with the ESL increase. Not fighting fires.........

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:27 pm
by heater31
stan wrote:CFS volunteers not happy with the ESL increase. Not fighting fires.........

I bet it's because the ESL has risen exponentially yet the funding for the CFS has decreased. Tommy Kosimusless thinks the country folk are stupid......

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:41 pm
by stan
heater31 wrote:
stan wrote:CFS volunteers not happy with the ESL increase. Not fighting fires.........

I bet it's because the ESL has risen exponentially yet the funding for the CFS has decreased. Tommy Kosimusless thinks the country folk are stupid......

Thats about it.

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:12 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
Indaily founder Kevin Norton is heading up martin hamilton-smiths office

Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:48 pm
by Booney
heater31 wrote:
stan wrote:CFS volunteers not happy with the ESL increase. Not fighting fires.........

I bet it's because the ESL has risen exponentially yet the funding for the CFS has decreased. Tommy Kosimusless thinks the country folk are stupid......


He thinks we're all stupid.

ESL goes through the roof just as they work out we need to pay for an Oval and a Hospital. Hmm...who planned ahead then?