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Re: PDCA

Postby whufc » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:27 pm

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whufc wrote:If any pdca teams are interested In having a pre season hit out this year let us know. Our mob will be keen for a one dayer if time between footy/cricket allows.

2.5 hours north of the CBD, plenty of breweries/wineries/accomodation around there area to make a day or weekend of it

I’d be keen


We would be happy to play any form of one day game as that's what we primarily play.....happy to have modified rules to ensure everyone gets a hit/bowl so its worth each players while.

Once fixtures are announced we can try and hook up dates.

We can probably hook up some discounted accommodation at one of the local pubs in Clare as well if you were looking to make a weekend of it. If not that's to fancy there heaps of camping spots around.
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Old Fellow » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:54 pm

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The Old Fellow wrote:I would have put them in grade 3 or 4 without allowing any of their former players (the ones who walked away) to play..

That would be the only way you could drop them down the grades.

It's a little like the debate in AdFL about clubs that drop out then return in D7 - are you rewarding the club with instant success in a lower division, or punishing them by being that low?

It's hard to say players cant return though, after all it's community cricket.


Association has stopped players playing before like Craigmore, Units, Salisbury North and Royals to name a few.

With your 6 team comp having EP in grade 2 goes against all the reasoning why if they return they need to be in the highest grade to stop them having an easier ride.
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:44 pm

Never said I agreed or disagreed with them being in Grade 1 :D

Those other clubs though, weren’t they the result of clubs requesting to go down due to players leaving? In the Royals case they dropped a couple of grades from memory. Craigmore was off the back of an apparent exodus.
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Re: PDCA

Postby BenchedEagle » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:25 am

Re the conversation about 6 Or 10 sides for a shortened season. I think it’s something to seriously be considered but it needs clubs to get together and come up with a new concept for the league. The days of the constant flow of footy/cricket seasons is over, time to shorten it up and it’s for clubs to put heads together and ask for what they want.

Re Eastern Park. Yes the league could of imposed all sorts of restrictions and made them work their way up. But I am a big believer in having the best possible players in our league at all times. There was an early signal they wanted a Grade 2 reentry and that was never happening. Thta would be an absolute pisstake.
Units have copped a big loss with Knappy and nugget but can tell you they leave with absolute blessings, they came over helped deliver a massive club saving premiership and I wish both those guys all the best, both great guys. Units on hunt for a couple bats and with a few Westies lads blending very well into the footy club you never know who might stay on for a post premiership summer ;)

But -rob the real disappointment for me is Para Vista have decided yet again to remain in Grade 5.. their argument that they will lose players doesn’t really wash especially when they have possibly 3 one day sides and super subs to call on.. another cheap cup heading their way. What’s the point?

Re: Enfield, surely a demotion on compassionate grounds could be considered? ;)
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Re: PDCA

Postby whufc » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:23 am

BenchedEagle wrote:Re the conversation about 6 Or 10 sides for a shortened season. I think it’s something to seriously be considered but it needs clubs to get together and come up with a new concept for the league. The days of the constant flow of footy/cricket seasons is over, time to shorten it up and it’s for clubs to put heads together and ask for what they want.

Re Eastern Park. Yes the league could of imposed all sorts of restrictions and made them work their way up. But I am a big believer in having the best possible players in our league at all times. There was an early signal they wanted a Grade 2 reentry and that was never happening. Thta would be an absolute pisstake.
Units have copped a big loss with Knappy and nugget but can tell you they leave with absolute blessings, they came over helped deliver a massive club saving premiership and I wish both those guys all the best, both great guys. Units on hunt for a couple bats and with a few Westies lads blending very well into the footy club you never know who might stay on for a post premiership summer ;)

But -rob the real disappointment for me is Para Vista have decided yet again to remain in Grade 5.. their argument that they will lose players doesn’t really wash especially when they have possibly 3 one day sides and super subs to call on.. another cheap cup heading their way. What’s the point?

Re: Enfield, surely a demotion on compassionate grounds could be considered? ;)


Agree with all that.

As you said the league could have put any restrictions they like but at the end of the day its community sport and as bleedredandblue said it was just as much administration issues than the players themselves.

The only way you could have stopped them from going to div 1 is if you banned the players coming back. I wouldn't be comfortable with players being banned from a club when ultimately it was club issue rather than a rogue player who went and got suspended for abusing an umpire etc.

Obviously EP has had a rugged history in recent years and if it all goes pear shaped again then the PDCA probably need to ask the question, do they belong in the comp. You cant have them in the lower grades though forever with restrictions around who they are allowed to play, that just doesnt work.

Hopefully the new coach can come in and change the football clubs mindset around cricket. EP is too valuable to its community to not have cricket for the kids/seniors of that area. If the club get on board cricket they could have a sustained period of success which in turn will provide opportunities for football with another way of attracting players to the club. EP have lost far to many gun cricketers who have been successful in div 1 because of the way they have treated cricket going back to the days of Picton, Brookes, Beazleigh to more recent blokes like Nate Warren.
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:29 am

BenchedEagle wrote:But -rob the real disappointment for me is Para Vista have decided yet again to remain in Grade 5.. their argument that they will lose players doesn’t really wash especially when they have possibly 3 one day sides and super subs to call on.. another cheap cup heading their way. What’s the point?

This.. 100%

Will field one day sides in 3/4 LO grades.

Honestly, the format last year in Grade 4 was a good one for clubs to transition back into 2 day cricket - 10x 1 day games and 5x 2 day games.. 3 up front and 2 at the end.

What's tiring also is all the "new" clubs that have joined over the past few years - they only want to play LO cricket. Each year we see issues in the 2 day grades with promotion/relegation etc.. but it's the same core group of clubs holding it all together.
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:22 pm

#bleedredandblue wrote:Who is the big B? Lol

Hope he's not referring to me :lol:
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Re: PDCA

Postby whufc » Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:28 pm

The Bedge wrote:
#bleedredandblue wrote:Who is the big B? Lol

Hope he's not referring to me :lol:


Sportsbet have you @ $1.01 EP cricket coach & $1.10 next Brahma footy coach :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:30 pm

whufc wrote:SAFootybet have you @ $1.01 EP cricket coach & $1.10 next Brahma footy coach :lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't waste your hard earned folks.. load up on a long shot.

Davoren Park Dingoes Football and Cricket club, hitting the ground in 2022. :lol:
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Old Fellow » Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:43 pm

The Bedge wrote:Interestingly, A&SCA seems to be going well - 10x grades of 8 teams all playing 2 day cricket.

Why can't we have that. :(


A&SCA changed to playing 7x 1 day and 7 x 2 day cricket the other season. Their format last season was 2 x 1dayers, then 4 x 2dayers, then 4 x 1 dayers, then 3 x 2 dayers and finish with a 1 dayer before finals.
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:28 pm

The Old Fellow wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Interestingly, A&SCA seems to be going well - 10x grades of 8 teams all playing 2 day cricket.

Why can't we have that. :(


A&SCA changed to playing 7x 1 day and 7 x 2 day cricket the other season. Their format last season was 2 x 1dayers, then 4 x 2dayers, then 4 x 1 dayers, then 3 x 2 dayers and finish with a 1 dayer before finals.

Yeah... and they've got 10x grades of 8 teams playing the same format.. not like PDCA which is all over the shop.
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Old Fellow » Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:02 am

The Bedge wrote:
BenchedEagle wrote:But -rob the real disappointment for me is Para Vista have decided yet again to remain in Grade 5.. their argument that they will lose players doesn’t really wash especially when they have possibly 3 one day sides and super subs to call on.. another cheap cup heading their way. What’s the point?

This.. 100%

Will field one day sides in 3/4 LO grades.

Honestly, the format last year in Grade 4 was a good one for clubs to transition back into 2 day cricket - 10x 1 day games and 5x 2 day games.. 3 up front and 2 at the end.

What's tiring also is all the "new" clubs that have joined over the past few years - they only want to play LO cricket. Each year we see issues in the 2 day grades with promotion/relegation etc.. but it's the same core group of clubs holding it all together.


We have common ground. Agree with this 100%
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Re: PDCA

Postby whufc » Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:54 pm

@bleedredandblue.

Will EP get Benny Mc back or is he keen to have another crack on turf? He had a decent country champs looking at his stats.
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Re: PDCA

Postby #bleedredandblue » Thu Aug 05, 2021 4:44 pm

He’s pushed the hardest to get everyone back together to be honest so yeah he’s 100% back and will probably captain the team also
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Old Fellow » Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:54 pm

#bleedredandblue wrote:He’s pushed the hardest to get everyone back together to be honest so yeah he’s 100% back and will probably captain the team also


You are talking about my rumoured 'Big B'. Heard he was behind the push to re-establish EP
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Re: PDCA

Postby whufc » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:00 pm

#bleedredandblue wrote:He’s pushed the hardest to get everyone back together to be honest so yeah he’s 100% back and will probably captain the team also


Great news for the club

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Re: PDCA

Postby The Old Fellow » Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:23 pm

The Old Fellow wrote:
#bleedredandblue wrote:He’s pushed the hardest to get everyone back together to be honest so yeah he’s 100% back and will probably captain the team also


You are talking about my rumoured 'Big B'. Heard he was behind the push to re-establish EP


Sorry Bedge, it was never you no matter what odds you were. You only need to work on how Enfield can be in grade 3 where they should be on past performances (said with no disrespect to the club - most of them are a good bunch of guys).
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:30 am

The Old Fellow wrote:Sorry Bedge, it was never you no matter what odds you were. You only need to work on how Enfield can be in grade 3 where they should be on past performances (said with no disrespect to the club - most of them are a good bunch of guys).

No offence taken and you’re dead right haha! Certainly no disrespect taken either, we need to go down - our only wins last year were against Salisbury West who finished bottom.

Reality is our junior program is only young and years away from bearing fruit, we don’t have any committed young lads and rely so heavily on a few players to carry the load. Another year in D2 with the same results could have some serious effects long term - guys like Rackebrandt aren’t going to keep rocking up wasting their time year in year out.
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Re: PDCA

Postby whitepointers » Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:19 pm

The Old Fellow wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Interestingly, A&SCA seems to be going well - 10x grades of 8 teams all playing 2 day cricket.

Why can't we have that. :(


A&SCA changed to playing 7x 1 day and 7 x 2 day cricket the other season. Their format last season was 2 x 1dayers, then 4 x 2dayers, then 4 x 1 dayers, then 3 x 2 dayers and finish with a 1 dayer before finals.


Would this format be the reason Grand Masters went to ASCA or would it be due to accusations from an unhappy former player spilling the beans?
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Re: PDCA

Postby The Bedge » Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:41 pm

whitepointers wrote:
The Old Fellow wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Interestingly, A&SCA seems to be going well - 10x grades of 8 teams all playing 2 day cricket.

Why can't we have that. :(


A&SCA changed to playing 7x 1 day and 7 x 2 day cricket the other season. Their format last season was 2 x 1dayers, then 4 x 2dayers, then 4 x 1 dayers, then 3 x 2 dayers and finish with a 1 dayer before finals.


Would this format be the reason Grand Masters went to ASCA or would it be due to accusations from an unhappy former player spilling the beans?

They only played Limited Overs in PDCA - might be more the travel in ASCA is more accommodating? They're based at Vic race course from memory?

They might've wanted a fresh start also since no one liked them :P
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