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This thought popped into my head earlier today.

The number that the Magarey winner wore in his winning year. Has there been a number that's won it more than others?

I don't have any numbers pre 1945, or Ron Phillips (1948,49) and Allan Crabb (1949). 1, 2 and 17 are the standouts:

1945 Robert Quinn Port 1
1947 Robert Hank Torrens 1
1950 Ian McKay North 1
1953 Jim Deane South 1
1954 Len Fitzgerald Sturt 1
1967 Donald Lindner North 1
1974 Russell Ebert Port 1
1976 Russell Ebert Port 1
1965 Gary Window Central 2
1966 Ronald Kneebone Norwood 2
1997 Brodie Atkinson Sturt 2
1997 Andrew Jarman Norwood 2
2001 Anthony Brown Port 2
2005 Jeremy Clayton Port 2
2006 Brett Backwell Glenelg 2
1967 Trevor Obst Port 3
1946 Robert Hank Torrens 5
1952 Len Fitzgerald Sturt 5
1959 Len Fitzgerald Sturt 5
1960 Barrie Barbary North 5
2002 Timothy Weatherald Sturt 6
1971 Russell Ebert Port 7
1980 Russell Ebert Port 7
1998 Andrew Osborn South 7
1981 Michael Aish Norwood 8
1982 Anthony McGuinness Glenelg 8
1951 John Marriott Norwood 9
1988 Gregory Whittlesea Sturt 9
2002 Jade Sheedy Sturt 9
1968 Barrie Robran North 10
1970 Barrie Robran North 10
1973 Barrie Robran North 10
1996 Joshua Francou North 10
1956 Dave Boyd Port 11
1990 Scott Hodges Port 11
1962 Kenneth Eustice West 13
1972 Malcolm Blight Woodville 13
1983 Anthony Antrobus North 13
1994 Garry McIntosh Norwood 14
1995 Garry McIntosh Norwood 14
1961 John Halbert Sturt 15
2004 Paul Thomas Central 16
2007 James Allan North 16
1955 Lindsay Head Torrens 17
1958 Lindsay Head Torrens 17
1963 Lindsay Head Torrens 17
1964 Geofrey Motley Port 17
1975 Peter Woite Port 17
1977 Trevor Grimwood West 17
1987 Andrew Jarman North 17
1991 Mark Naley South 17
2001 Ryan O'Connor Port 18
1969 Dennis Phillis Glenelg 19
1979 John Duckworth Central 19
1957 Ron Benton West 22
1978 Kym Hodgeman Glenelg 24
1999 Damian Squire Sturt 24
2000 Damian Squire Sturt 24
1986 Gregory Anderson Port 26
1993 Brenton Phillips North 27
1995 Glenn Kilpatrick West 27
1989 Gilbert McAdam Central 29
1985 Grantley Fielke West 30
1992 Nathan Buckley Port 32
2003 Brett Ebert Port 33
1984 John Platten Central 44

So, no.1 has won it 8 times, with 7 different players wearing that number
no.17 also has won it 8 times, with 6 different players wearing that number
Others in the above list:
no.2 - 7 times, 7 players
no.5 - 4 times, 3 players
no.10 - 4 times, 2 players
no.9 - 3 times, 3 players
no.13 - 3 times, 3 players
no.7 - 3 times, 2 players
no.24 - 3 times, 2 players
no.8 - twice, 2 players
no.11 - twice, 2 players
no.16 - twice, 2 players
no.19 - twice, 2 players
no.27 - twice, 2 players
no.14 - twice, 1 player
nos. 3, 6, 15, 18, 22, 26, 29, 30, 32, 33, 44 - once

Any additions to the lists (or corrections) will be most welcome.

You're so clever! thanks Spelly!

As far as I know, players began wearing numbers from 1914 (that was the first edition of the football budget) but players did wear numbers in the 1912 GF for some reason.

Here are the numbers for the Magarey Medallists 1914 to 1949:

1914 Jack Ashley PA 21
1915 Frank Barry SA 9
1915 Shine Hosking PA 4
1915 Charles Perry N 13
1919 Dan Moriarty SA 2
1920 Dan Moriarty SA 2
1921 Dan Moriarty SA 2
1921 Walter Scott N 7
1921 Vic Richardson S 8
1921 John Karney WT 2
1922 Robert Barnes WA 5
1923 Horrie Riley S 7
1924 Walter Scott N 7
1925 Alick Lill N 3
1925 Peter Bampton PA 3
1926 Bruce McGregor WA 1
1927 Bruce McGregor WA 1
1928 Jim Handby G 15
1929 Richard Snell WA 8
1930 Walter Scott N 1
1931 Jack Sexton SA 12
1932 Max Pontifex WT 2
1933 Keith Dunn S 7
1934 George Johnston G 3
1935 Jack Cockburn SA 5
1936 Bill McCallum N 18
1937 Harold Hawke NA 9
1938 Bob Quinn PA 6
1939 Jeff Pash NA 4
1939 Ray McArthur WA 2
1940 Mel Brock G 8
1941 Marcus Boyall G 2
1945 Bob Quinn PA 1
1946 Bob Hank WT 5
1947 Bob Hank WT 1
1948 Ron Phillips NA 10
1949 Ron Phillips NA 10
1949 Allan Crabb G 1

I don't have Ray McArthur in 1939 but I can find that out today.

Watch this space

And some corrections:

You missed Jim Deane in 1957 who wore 12
Nathan Buckley wore 34 in 1992, not 32.
Andrew Osborn wore 6 in 1998, not 7
Ryan O'Connor wore 30 in 2001, not 18
Brett Ebert wore 7 in 2003, not 33. That's his AFL number

A Hawk, "Blue" Johnston's name is on locker number #4 in the Change rooms at Glenelg.

I'm not aware of him wearing number 3.

Ecky??

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:A Hawk, "Blue" Johnston's name is on locker number #4 in the Change rooms at Glenelg.

I'm not aware of him wearing number 3.

Ecky??

That is very interesting. I took my numbers from the Football Budget, and they have him as playing in number 3. I'll have another look today because Glenelg would surely know better about their players than I would.

Maybe he played the 1934 season in 3, but most of his career in 4, that's one possibility.

Certainly he is listed as 3 in the 1934 Grand Final Budget with Arthur Link at 4. As I said, I'll check it out and get back to you.

Adelaide Hawk wrote:

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:A Hawk, "Blue" Johnston's name is on locker number #4 in the Change rooms at Glenelg.

I'm not aware of him wearing number 3.

Ecky??

That is very interesting. I took my numbers from the Football Budget, and they have him as playing in number 3. I'll have another look today because Glenelg would surely know better about their players than I would.

Maybe he played the 1934 season in 3, but most of his career in 4, that's one possibility.

Certainly he is listed as 3 in the 1934 Grand Final Budget with Arthur Link at 4. As I said, I'll check it out and get back to you.

I think that is a very real possibility. Mind you Ecky has railed long and hard over the errors in the "official" Glenelg records. So I think your budget would be correct. I merely passed the question given the historical names on each locker in our changerooms.

Tassie,

I spent the afternoon pouring through football budgets from 1933 to 1940 and I have no idea why Blue Johnston would be listed on locker No.4.

In every season, Johnston is listed as number 3 in the Football Budget, including each game in his 1934 Magarey Medal season.

I will add that I didn't have time to check seasons 1927 to 1932 in which he played, but it would appear No.3 should be the number Johnston is remembered for.

Ray McArthur won the 1939 Medal in No.2, amended above.

So, with Adelaide Hawks amendments and additions:

1926 Bruce McGregor West 1
1927 Bruce McGregor West 1
1930 Walter Scott Norwood 1
1945 Robert Quinn Port 1
1947 Robert Hank Torrens 1
1949 Allan Crabb Glenelg 1
1950 Ian McKay North 1
1953 Jim Deane South 1
1954 Len Fitzgerald Sturt 1
1967 Donald Lindner North 1
1974 Russell Ebert Port 1
1976 Russell Ebert Port 1
1919 Dan Moriarty South 2
1920 Dan Moriarty South 2
1921 Dan Moriarty South 2
1921 John Karney Torrens 2
1932 Max Pontifex Torrens 2
1939 Ray McArthur West 2
1941 Marcus Boyall Glenelg 2
1965 Gary Window Central 2
1966 Ronald Kneebone Norwood 2
1997 Brodie Atkinson Sturt 2
2001 Anthony Brown Port 2
2005 Jeremy Clayton Port 2
2006 Brett Backwell Glenelg 2
1925 Peter Bampton Port 3
1925 Alick Lill Norwood 3
1934 George Johnston Glenelg 3
1967 Trevor Obst Port 3
1915 Sampson Hosking Port 4
1939 Jeff Pash North 4
1922 Robert Barnes West 5
1935 Jack Cockburn South 5
1946 Robert Hank Torrens 5
1952 Len Fitzgerald Sturt 5
1959 Len Fitzgerald Sturt 5
1960 Barrie Barbary North 5
1938 Robert Quinn Port 6
1998 Andrew Osborn South 6
2002 Timothy Weatherald Sturt 6
1921 Walter Scott Norwood 7
1923 Horrie Riley Sturt 7
1924 Walter Scott Norwood 7
1933 Keith Dunn Sturt 7
1971 Russell Ebert Port 7
1980 Russell Ebert Port 7
2003 Brett Ebert Port 7
1921 Victor Richardson Sturt 8
1929 Richard Snell West 8
1940 Mel Brock Glenelg 8
1981 Michael Aish Norwood 8
1982 Anthony McGuinness Glenelg 8
1915 Frank Barry South 9
1937 Harold Hawke North 9
1951 John Marriott Norwood 9
1988 Gregory Whittlesea Sturt 9
2002 Jade Sheedy Sturt 9
1948 Ron Phillips North 10
1949 Ron Phillips North 10
1968 Barrie Robran North 10
1970 Barrie Robran North 10
1973 Barrie Robran North 10
1996 Joshua Francou North 10
1997 Andrew Jarman Norwood 10
1956 Dave Boyd Port 11
1990 Scott Hodges Port 11
1931 Jack Sexton South 12
1957 Jim Deane South 12
1915 Charles Perry Norwood 13
1962 Kenneth Eustice West 13
1972 Malcolm Blight Woodville 13
1983 Anthony Antrobus North 13
1994 Garry McIntosh Norwood 14
1995 Garry McIntosh Norwood 14
1928 Jim Handby Glenelg 15
1961 John Halbert Sturt 15
2004 Paul Thomas Central 16
2007 James Allan North 16
1955 Lindsay Head Torrens 17
1958 Lindsay Head Torrens 17
1963 Lindsay Head Torrens 17
1964 Geofrey Motley Port 17
1975 Peter Woite Port 17
1977 Trevor Grimwood West 17
1987 Andrew Jarman North 17
1991 Mark Naley South 17
1936 William McCallum Norwood 18
1969 Dennis Phillis Glenelg 19
1979 John Duckworth Central 19
1914 Jack Ashley Port 21
1957 Ron Benton West 22
1978 Kym Hodgeman Glenelg 24
1999 Damian Squire Sturt 24
2000 Damian Squire Sturt 24
1986 Gregory Anderson Port 26
1993 Brenton Phillips North 27
1995 Glenn Kilpatrick West 27
1989 Gilbert McAdam Central 29
1985 Grantley Fielke West 30
2001 Ryan O'Connor Port 30
1992 Nathan Buckley Port 34
1984 John Platten Central 44

no.2 - 13 times, 11 players
no.1 - 12 times, 10 players
no.17 - 8 times, 6 players
no.7 - 7 times, 5 players
no.10 - 7 times, 4 players
no.5 - 6 times, 5 players
no.8 - 5 times, 5 players
no.9 - 5 times, 5 players
no.3 - 4 times, 4 players
no.13 - 4 times, 4 players
no.6 - 3 times, 3 players
no.24 - 3 times, 2 players
no.4 - 2 times, 2 players
no.11 - 2 times, 2 players
no.12 - 2 times, 2 players
no.15 - 2 times, 2 players
no.16 - 2 times, 2 players
no.19 - 2 times, 2 players
no.27 - 2 times, 2 players
no.30 - 2 times, 2 players
no.14 - 2 times, 1 player
nos.18, 21, 22, 26, 29, 34, 44 once

Sorry Spelly, I just spotted another error.

Andrew Jarman first wore No.2 when he came to Norwood in 1990, but when he won his second medal in 1997, he wore No.10.

Sorry I didn't spot this before, All the others appear to be correct.

Done.