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				1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:01 pmby westozfalcon
				I was reading a WA footy history book the other day and in it there was brief reference to the above game which WA won by a point in Adelaide. I was too young to remember the match but from what I read there were a couple of controversial umpiring decisions which SA supporters thought cost the Croweaters victory and had them calling for neutral umpires in future state games (so presumably it was the WA umpire they had issue with!!). One was Brad Hardie tackling Bruce Lindsay and getting a holding the ball decision in his favour and another was Rob Wiley getting a free kick at the end which gave the Sandgropers victory by a point.
The final score was SA 14.13 v WA 14.14.
Does anyone have any recollections or facts on this game?
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:13 pmby Adelaide Hawk
				WA  2.2  9.5  11.7  14.14  98
SA  4.4  8.8  13.11  14.13  97
Best
WA:  Hardie   Malaxos   Daniels   Wiley   Langsford   Rance
SA:  Aish   Motley   McIntosh   Marshall   Paynter   Naley
Goals
WA:  Bosustow 3   Malaxos 2   Hardie 2   Hart 2   Keene 2   Wiley   Daniels   Langsford
SA:  Aish 3   Kernahan 3   Roberts 2   Naley 2   Bradley   McGuinness   Motley   Marshall
Umpires:   Mike Ball  (WA)    Laurie Argent  (SA)
I didn't see this game, so all I really remember was Mike Ball's controversial umpiring near the end of the game.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:15 pmby CK
				Remember the game to a fair degree. As AH listed, the WA umpire was Mike Ball and the last decision you mentioned was, I believe, paid by him. SA had their chances to take it, but a combination of a couple of umpiring decisions and a couple of misses at critical times just cost them. Was a pretty big year for state footy - IIRC, it was the year Kernahan kicked 10 and Motley took the screamer against Victoria that brought the house down. Was sitting about 8 rows back from that grab and remember it as clear as if it was yesterday. A near perfect high mark from a young bloke about to enter a special time of his career.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:22 pmby spell_check
				I do have the line up for the match:
Westerrn Australia:
F: Keene Bosustow Daniels
HF: Holmes Campbell Wiley
C: Panizza Malaxos Brenton
HB: Fogarty Rance Mosconi
B: Wilkinson Carter Ware
R: Harding Langsford Hart
Int: Baynes Hardie Aitken
South Australia:
F: Roberts Kernahan McGuinness
HF: Schneebichler Russell Paynter
C: Bradley McIntosh Fielke
HB: Motley Dreher White
B: Robson Warhurst Leslie
R: Carey Aish Naley
Int: Redden Marshall Lindsay
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:32 pmby gadj1976
				I remember the game quite well.  In fact, I still recall the decision, about 15 - 20m out directly in front against Lindsay.  It still ranks among the top 3 worst decisions I've ever seen.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:48 pmby Adelaide Hawk
				Garry McIntosh won the Fos Williams Medal as SA's best player.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:45 pmby rogernumber10
				I see Mike Ball most weeks. He says he is regularly reminded of that game once people make the association
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:00 pmby Punk Rooster
				You gotta hand it to the Crow's supporters- they themselves preceeded their own club by 7 years...
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:07 pmby am Bays
				spell_check wrote:R: Carey Aish Naley
14 years into his career than man is still leading SA rucks.....
How he isn't in the Australian Football Hall of fame.....
 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:39 pmby GWW
				1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:spell_check wrote:R: Carey Aish Naley
14 years into his career than man is still leading SA rucks.....
How he isn't in the Australian Football Hall of fame.....
 
Being incorrectly labelled as 3rd best ever SA footballer by 2 media representatives i think makes up for that "oversight"  

 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:40 pmby am Bays
				GWW wrote:1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:spell_check wrote:R: Carey Aish Naley
14 years into his career than man is still leading SA rucks.....
How he isn't in the Australian Football Hall of fame.....
 
Being incorrectly labelled as 3rd best ever SA footballer by 2 media representatives i think makes up for that "oversight"  

 
Agreed, should be #1  

 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:08 pmby Punk Rooster
				who was the Peanut coaching the SA side?
Mick Redden on the bench & Carey rucking indeed!
No wonder we lost
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:29 amby Adelaide Hawk
				Coach was Neil Kerley.
WA Coach was John Todd.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:13 amby Magpiespower
				CK wrote:Mike Ball...
BOG.
IIRC, wasn't that contentious point kicked after the siren?
Which Ball didn't hear...
 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:12 amby Pseudo
				Magpiespower wrote:CK wrote:Mike Ball...
BOG.
IIRC, wasn't that contentious point kicked after the siren?
Which Ball didn't hear...
 
That's what I remember.  I reckon he later claimed that he did hear the siren but the ball was already in flight when he signalled time off and thus was still able to score.  Tardy b@stard cost SA the win...
I reckon this is also the game where, during the half time break, some bloke jumped the fence on the outer wing and ran full tilt towards the southern goal with a ball in hand.  He let fly with a punt from the pocket and split the centre, pumping his fists in the air before jumping back over the fence at the southern end.  I saw the coppers talking with him after, but I don't reckon they chucked him out.
 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:10 amby westozfalcon
				Mike Ball's daughter, Kendall is now a goal umpire in the WAFL.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:02 pmby Harry the Horse
				Was at the game ... the holding the ball decision against Bruce Lindsay was comfortably the worst I've ever seen.
Ball bounces up into his arms and falls straight out again as he is tackled ... possession was never taken ... Ball blows for holding the ball 3/10ths of a nano-second after ball spills from Lindsay.
It sticks in my mind more than the fact than the siren had gone before Wiley kicked the winning point.
Lucky to get off the ground in one piece, he was.
Big year for SA, to go with the four-point loss to the Vics when Kernas kicked 10.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:18 pmby tigersupporter
				I was at that game against WA, but dont remember much. I do remember the state game where S Kernahan kicked 10.1 and we lost. If he had kicked 11.0 we would have won.... 

 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:34 pmby Dogwatcher
				What was the game we 'won' because Victoria did something wrong with their interchanges?
			 
			
		
			
				Re: 1984 State Game - SA v WA
				
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:49 pmby Hondo
				We got revenge the following year when we thrashed WA at Subiaco with arguably our greatest SOO side ever (at least while it was made up of mostly SANFL based players)
Blighty played full forward IIRC