Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

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Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby Aerie » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:16 am

Despite what the AFL will have us believe through their "branding", AFL and Australian Rules Football are most certainly two different things.

You only have to look back 30 years with the VFL and VFA as an example of how Australian Rules Football was the game, but they were two different competitions with a different set of rules. Who was to say which was better?

There is no disputing the AFL have turned the game into the biggest sport in Australia, but, at what cost? How far will they go? How far can they go? At the moment it would seem they can go as far as they please.

We have seen more rule changes in the past three years than when the game was first invented. We have state associations being called "AFL". We have "AFL" Auskick. We have the AFL determining how a State of Origin competition will be run. We have a contrived fixture dependent on what will make the most money.

Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football or should an independent committee oversee the game at all levels and ultimately make decisions based on keeping the sport, a sport, where everyone gets a fair go?

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Re: Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby JK » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:27 am

Super League breakaway anyone? :wink:
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Re: Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby heater31 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:05 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:Super League breakaway anyone? :wink:


Yep Adelaide, Port, WCE, Freo, Brisbane and Sydney only though the rest can get stuffed :wink:
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Re: Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby Hondo » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:44 pm

Aerie wrote:Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football or should an independent committee oversee the game at all levels and ultimately make decisions based on keeping the sport, a sport, where everyone gets a fair go?


Aerie, I think you are a focussing too much on the negatives there. You know the AFL Commission don't run the SANFL, WAFL or any other comp around the country other than the AFL?

Sounds like you want some sort of more socially-responsible approach to the management of the game which is nice. But I reckon if you researched it, you would find the AFL are probably doing more than you realise to support and develop the game. The best way to ensure Football stays alive and relevant in Australia is if the national game is financially successful, then the funds can filter down.

IMO don't set up yet another layer of red-tape/committee on top .... if the Commisssion aren't doing what you think they should then change the committee members, don't create ANOTHER commission.
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Re: Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby Wedgie » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:13 pm

It was much better in the old days when the NFL/NFC were the overseeing body until the VFL decided to take it over.

A proper national comp with them overseeing it would have been ideal but it was more advantageous to the VFL clubs to take over the sport.
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Re: Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby Aerie » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:48 pm

hondo71 wrote:Aerie, I think you are a focussing too much on the negatives there. You know the AFL Commission don't run the SANFL, WAFL or any other comp around the country other than the AFL?

Sounds like you want some sort of more socially-responsible approach to the management of the game which is nice. But I reckon if you researched it, you would find the AFL are probably doing more than you realise to support and develop the game. The best way to ensure Football stays alive and relevant in Australia is if the national game is financially successful, then the funds can filter down.

IMO don't set up yet another layer of red-tape/committee on top .... if the Commisssion aren't doing what you think they should then change the committee members, don't create ANOTHER commission.


They may not run the SANFL/WAFL etc. but if they decided they wanted to do something (i.e. create bigger lists to make way for a reserves competition) these state leagues would be in a hopeless situation. I guess I'm questioning the integrity of the current commission. Perhaps another commission would solve it.

Wedgie wrote:It was much better in the old days when the NFL/NFC were the overseeing body until the VFL decided to take it over.

A proper national comp with them overseeing it would have been ideal but it was more advantageous to the VFL clubs to take over the sport.


Yes, I think this would be a better system.
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Re: Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby Hondo » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:07 pm

Yes, can't argue with the question about the VFL turning themselves in to the AFL.

On that point, it's not until this season with Demetriou commenting on the need to assist the Victorian clubs that I have felt the VFL bias coming back. I thought Wayne Jackson did a great job of keeping a 'National' focus which it must.
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Re: Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby Psyber » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:19 pm

I'm pretty sure Telstra/Foxtel are running Australian Rules Football, and they should be stopped!
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Re: Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby smithy » Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:48 pm

Wedgie wrote:It was much better in the old days when the NFL/NFC were the overseeing body until the VFL decided to take it over.

A proper national comp with them overseeing it would have been ideal but it was more advantageous to the VFL clubs to take over the sport.


Not much difference Wedgie, The NFL had 14 voting members of which 10 were from Victoria,1 from SA, 1 from WA, 1 from Tassie and 1 from ACT or something to that effect.
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Re: Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby Benchwarmer » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:21 pm

So long as the controlling bodies in SA and WA don't go down the same line as the states that sold themselves out ... AFL SA and AFL WA would sound so undignified. Even Football Victoria changed their name to AFL Victoria!
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Re: Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby Magpiespower » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:46 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:Super League breakaway anyone? :wink:


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Re: Should the AFL be running Australian Rules Football?

Postby giffo » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:33 pm

Wasn't it the AFL that set the salary caps for the various state leagues with the SANFL being set lower than the VFL to try to deter players leaving Vic and weakening their second tier comp?
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