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Bonus Points?

Postby Benchwarmer » Thu May 24, 2007 1:30 am

Here's a bold one from outside the circle that will annoy the traditionalists.

Something has got to be done to stop a repeat of the shit AFL game between Hawthorn and St. Kilda. These games are happening more and more and something proactive needs to be done. Footy has just gotten far too defensive in recent years.

Rugby faced this in the mid to late 1990s and the Super 12 came up with the idea of bonus points for a side scoring 4 tries or more ... why not come up with offering an extra premiership point for sides that crack the "20 goal or 120 points" barrier (or maybe to a lesser extent 100 points) in a game. One bonus point could make all the difference over 22 rounds and teams may rue not going for an attacking game plan if they miss out on the finals by one point. Plus fans may have a better chance of seeing action and goals rather than sideways and backwards kicking ... the AFL haven't put an extra set of goals on each wing as far as I am aware!

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Postby jackpot jim » Thu May 24, 2007 1:52 am

NO!
NOT FAIR to all teams as different grounds are more condusive to higher scoring than others.
eg. Teams that play at the Telstra Dome would have a lot bigger advantage than teams that dont bcos of its pristine conditions. (may be not the surface but more so the atmospheric conditions - no rain or wind).
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Postby McAlmanac » Thu May 24, 2007 1:55 am

Teams will still defend relentlessly for the two points.
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Postby Magpiespower » Thu May 24, 2007 8:10 am

They needed bonus points in rugby to encourage more attacking play.

Don't think that's a problem in Aussie Rules.

Also, rugby doesn't just reward teams for scoring 4+ tries.

Teams also get a bonus point if they lose by less than seven points.

Reward a team for losing? Now that's a joke.

Pi$$ed me off that the Brumbies missed the Super-14 finals this year because of bonus points.

Even though they won more games than the third placed Crusaders...

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Postby Rik E Boy » Thu May 24, 2007 8:35 am

You're right. That suggestion does annoy the traditionalists.

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Postby Hondo » Thu May 24, 2007 8:53 am

To avoid the obvious problem of the theory - different grounds (shapes, covered, wet/dry, etc), one caller to KG earlier this week spouting this same idea said he had a 'simple' solution ..... set a rating for each ground on each day like they do in racing.

So, if it's an uncovered ground and rain is forecast, then instead of 20 goals the bonus point target might be 12 goals.

Didn't answer the obvious question of what happens if ground conditions change after the 'rating' is made ... sudden rain-storm. He also had no answer to question of what happens if you score 20 goals but holding your opposition to 4 - the match aggregate is still not crash hot and the game not very exciting.

His theory suddenly wasn't so 'simple'.

My view - too many holes in the theory ... the game will evolve out of this trend, I think we are seeing early signs this year already
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Postby Rik E Boy » Thu May 24, 2007 10:25 am

Sounds about as useful as Duckworth Lewis hondo.

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Postby mal » Thu May 24, 2007 11:24 am

AWARD A BONUS POINT TO THE SIDE THAT MAKES THE LEAST INTERCHANGES :roll:

Good idea to award BPs for the attacking teams but JJ was spot on with the
differentials in the weather conditions etc

West Coast /Freo/Brisbane/and the DOOM teams would be at a bigger advantage
Also sides playing at night would be disadvantaged

Maybe the team with the most iinside 50s........ :idea:
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Postby Booney » Thu May 24, 2007 11:43 am

Kick more than 20 goals and win,get 5 points.Kick more than 20 goals and lose,get 1 point.Easy.
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Postby TroyGFC » Thu May 24, 2007 12:12 pm

Not against idea.
I wonder if this topic will reach the tiser as their idea?
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Postby our_longreach » Thu May 24, 2007 12:39 pm

Beat Port Adelaide and Collingwood and get 5 points automatically
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Postby doggies4eva » Thu May 24, 2007 1:25 pm

Rugby has an interchange limit - I think it is something like a maximum of 12 interchanges in a game.
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Postby Benchwarmer » Thu May 24, 2007 1:28 pm

Exactly Booney!

A reward for attacking footy - I'd much rather see Carlton score 120 points and lose than see Hawthorn score 70 points and win. For Chrissakes, the two teams together didn't match Carlton's losing score!

Carlton deserved a point as a reward for their effort to make the game an attractive one to watch, whilst that the same night a big bowl of crap was dished up at the MCG - a match that almost didn't deserve a full 4-point allocation.
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Postby TroyGFC » Thu May 24, 2007 3:13 pm

doggies4eva wrote:Rugby has an interchange limit - I think it is something like a maximum of 12 interchanges in a game.


I am all for this as well, would make the coaches really sit back and take notice of what is happening with match ups. Perhaps have special rules aside for injuries if player is out for whole game.
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Postby Armytank » Thu May 24, 2007 3:26 pm

Again with more "rules". :roll:

What the best thing about footy was that fact there were very little rules. But now we have new rules, differing interpretations of rules each year, coaches/players taking advantage of rules, rules rules rules blah blah blah.

Pi$$ off the rules and let footy evolve as it has done for 100 years. It will change itself.
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