by Barto » Mon May 21, 2007 5:13 pm
by doggies4eva » Mon May 21, 2007 5:22 pm
Barto wrote:THE health of Victorian football has been heavily debated, consistent with financial problems of some clubs and the stunning success of interstate rivals.
No Victorian team has featured in the past three Grand Finals, and eight of the past 10 premierships have been won by one of the interstate powerhouses.
Victoria's footy fans would have been buoyed by AFL Commission chairman Mike Fitzpatrick's weekend comments that there were many problems holding back Victorian clubs, and they were being addressed by the league's executive.
Fitzpatrick told the Herald Sun that despite the success of interstate clubs, the AFL's heartland was Victoria.
"We're not going to survive as a competition if we don't look after the heartland and, in the end, Melbourne is the heartland, Victorian football is the heartland," the former Carlton great said.
Interstate clubs and their fans will no doubt bleat if Victorian clubs are given extra AFL resources to compete on a more level playing field of resources and facilities.
But they should remember that the success of the AFL, with its national appeal and huge television revenues, was built on a base that has its roots firmly in Victorian football.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 18,00.html
by Blue Boy » Mon May 21, 2007 5:45 pm
Barto wrote:THE health of Victorian football has been heavily debated, consistent with financial problems of some clubs and the stunning success of interstate rivals.
No Victorian team has featured in the past three Grand Finals, and eight of the past 10 premierships have been won by one of the interstate powerhouses.
Victoria's footy fans would have been buoyed by AFL Commission chairman Mike Fitzpatrick's weekend comments that there were many problems holding back Victorian clubs, and they were being addressed by the league's executive.
Fitzpatrick told the Herald Sun that despite the success of interstate clubs, the AFL's heartland was Victoria.
"We're not going to survive as a competition if we don't look after the heartland and, in the end, Melbourne is the heartland, Victorian football is the heartland," the former Carlton great said.
Interstate clubs and their fans will no doubt bleat if Victorian clubs are given extra AFL resources to compete on a more level playing field of resources and facilities.
But they should remember that the success of the AFL, with its national appeal and huge television revenues, was built on a base that has its roots firmly in Victorian football.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 18,00.html
by Sojourner » Mon May 21, 2007 9:37 pm
by Hondo » Mon May 21, 2007 9:43 pm
by McAlmanac » Mon May 21, 2007 10:53 pm
Dutchy wrote:nothing incorrect in that article
by Hondo » Mon May 21, 2007 11:17 pm
Barto wrote:But they should remember that the success of the AFL, with its national appeal and huge television revenues, was built on a base that has its roots firmly in Victorian football. [/i]
by the wonder elephant » Tue May 22, 2007 12:48 am
by Booney » Tue May 22, 2007 7:38 am
Sojourner wrote:If they really believe that they should go re-instate Fitzroy.
by Sojourner » Tue May 22, 2007 2:44 pm
by doggies4eva » Tue May 22, 2007 2:58 pm
Sojourner wrote:Not trying to bait Phil at all! Rather I found recent comments in here on Fitzroy interesting and it logically follows that if the author actually believes what he wrote, then he should advocate the reintroduction of the Fitzroy club to the AFL.
Onto the current subject I have had a change of heart with this whole issue. I have thought in the past that relocating Melbourne based sides to Tassie and the Gold Coast and even later on NT would solve the problem. Yet my thoughts now is that any sides that come from those areas need to be set up like the Crows, based on and integrated into the local footy competitions. Why bother relocating an unsuccessful side and trying to convince the local population that this is their side, it clearly will not work.
The way forward is to increase by two the number of sides in the AFL to include Tasmania and Southport and let them follow in the way of the Crows and the Eagles.
Everyone knows that there are too many clubs based in Melbourne, yet considering I support Geelong and the Crows as my second side, both have home ground advantage at Football Park and Kardina Park which gives us a natural advantage to getting 12 wins a year to qualify for the finals. Sides in Melbourne have traded away their home ground advantage and their loss is our definate gain.
The other problem is resources, the most $$$ goes to successfull sides with the largest amount of TV exposure - Crows and Eagles which helps keep them on top. The Crows are sponsored by Victorias largest car manufacturer which helps vic $$$ flood into S.A which is no doubt appreciated by the Crows managment. Sides in Vic are struggling to get sponsorship, Western Bulldogs went 6 weeks without a major sponsor, such is the struggle for a bottom club to get corporate funding.
So leave it as it is, a Gold Coast side will have no shortage of sponsors and the Tassie Goverment are underwriting their AFL licence. The two sides will go it alone successfully and build up the same home ground advantage which should see them have a shot at the finals ahead of several existing ex VFL clubs.
by redden whites » Wed May 23, 2007 9:54 pm
by doggies4eva » Thu May 24, 2007 1:18 am
redden whites wrote:who would sponsor a div 2 team ??
Would they get tv exposure??
How would a div2 side have anychance of paying anywhere near the salary cap?
How would the draft work ?
Div 2 will never happen ...its a logistical nightmare
P.S. not all Melbourne sides traded away their home ground advantges.Hawthorn had a 30yr lease at Waverley to establish itself in the area and had it taken away when the commission sold it from underneath them.Yes they were compensated and have their base there now but were forced to have now "home games" at a nearly neutral MCG
by Benchwarmer » Thu May 24, 2007 1:19 am
by McAlmanac » Thu May 24, 2007 1:27 am
Benchwarmer wrote:As a former Victorian, they are all blind sheep over there ... they won't face reality, you can't win with 10 Vic clubs.
Cull two clubs and have a 14 team comp (12 would be better!) and work towards a 26 round H & A season (an even draw with each side meeting home AND away - hence the term 'home and away season').
Victorians will call me a traitor but I actually like to see the SA and WA sides doing well (stuff the northern sides) because it's payback for the past when the Vics pillaged SA and WA clubs and beat them in state games with their own home grown boys.
by Benchwarmer » Thu May 24, 2007 1:32 am
by McAlmanac » Thu May 24, 2007 1:40 am
Benchwarmer wrote:... or have a Division 1 from the two SA sides, the two WA sides, Sydney, Brisbane, Geelong and Footscray with the rest in Division 2!!!!!![]()
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by Jimmy » Thu May 24, 2007 2:58 am
by scoob » Thu May 24, 2007 10:31 am
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