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Phantom SA Origin Team

Postby blink » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:28 pm

F: B. Ebert, Tredrea (c), O'Loughlin

HF: Edwards, Pavlich, Burton

C: K. Cornes, S. Burgoyne, Cooney

HB: Enright, C. Cornes, Griffen

B: Bassett, Rutten, Johncock

1R: Lade, Goodwin (v/c), Pearce.

Int: Brogan, P. Burgoyne, Thompson, Fisher.

Coach: M. Williams.

Taken from the Advertiser


I think this is pretty spot on to what it would be if Origin was to be played right now. Interesting that the only players from non-SA teams are: Michael O'Loughlin (Sydney), Matthew Pavlich (Fremantle), Adam Cooney + Ryan Griffen (Western Bulldogs), Corey Enright (Geelong) and Sam Fisher (St Kilda).

What does everyone else think of this?
Would Ricciuto get a spot if he was fit?
Would Bryce Gibbs demand a spot?
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Re: Phantom SA Origin Team

Postby JK » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:35 pm

blink wrote:What does everyone else think of this?
Would Ricciuto get a spot if he was fit?
Would Bryce Gibbs demand a spot?


If he were fit and displaying form as before, then I'd think Roo would replace Ebert in the pocket, but given he's not that side looks about right ... No place for Gibbs yet, give it time though.

When I first skimmed over it I thought Scotty Burns might be stiff*, but can't see anyone I'd take out for him.
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Postby Blue Boy » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:40 pm

Pavlich - Vice Captian
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Postby finn » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:04 pm

beau waters would have to be in the side - could play anywhere as well
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Postby JK » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:12 pm

finn wrote:beau waters would have to be in the side - could play anywhere as well


Good call Dorsal
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Postby blink » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:13 pm

finn wrote:beau waters would have to be in the side - could play anywhere as well


Yes, great point finn. Obviously with an injury cloud over Johncock as well, he could slip in here. I can't see him bumping anyone other than Griffen out of the side.
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Postby scoob » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:34 pm

There would have to be a better wingman than cooney... pulls out of too many contests too play in a tough State of Origin match.
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Postby Hondo » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:36 pm

Good team. It's a tragedy of football that these guys don't get the opportunity to play together for SA. Other names you could consider are Nic Fosdike, Darryl Wakelin, Scott Welsh, Byron Pickett, Alan Didak, Aaron Fiora

That assumes Pickett is fit and motivated ..... of that group I'd suggest that Didak most likely to push for a spot in that 22. And I would slip Beau Waters in as finn suggested. I am struggling with the idea of Brett Ebert in the starting 18 - with O'Loughlin, Burton, Pavlich & Tredrea I don't reckon you need another marking forward up there.

As for Roo, seeing as it's a hypothetical couldn't we assume 100% fitness to try to come up with the SA Origin dream team? He'd be one of the first picked if he was fit IMO.
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Postby Hondo » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:44 pm

scoob wrote:There would have to be a better wingman than cooney... pulls out of too many contests too play in a tough State of Origin match.


Cooney to bench, P Burgoyne to wing I reckon
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Postby finn » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:45 pm

also believe that you'd want a coach willing to take the reins off the side. i'm not sure that mark williams is your man here or that a closely aligned person is desirable. that said, unsure who'd be a good bet to coach - perhaps nunan to drag his li'l butt out again?
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Postby scoob » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:46 pm

hondo71 wrote:As for Roo, seeing as it's a hypothetical couldn't we assume 100% fitness to try to come up with the SA Origin dream team? He'd be one of the first picked if he was fit IMO.


Thats an interesting one really, where would you play him? Not sure if he would play in the forward line with tredrea and Pavlich... Is he still able to hold his own in the midfield? maybe use him pinch hitting off the bench... he certainly deserves a spot in there somewhere.
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Postby finn » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:58 pm

also believe that you'd want a coach willing to take the reins off the side. i'm not sure that mark williams is your man here or that a closely aligned person is desirable. that said, unsure who'd be a good bet to coach - perhaps nunan to drag his li'l butt out again?
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Postby Hondo » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:33 pm

finn wrote:also believe that you'd want a coach willing to take the reins off the side. i'm not sure that mark williams is your man here or that a closely aligned person is desirable. that said, unsure who'd be a good bet to coach - perhaps nunan to drag his li'l butt out again?


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Postby Brad » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:47 pm

Id have Ottens before Brogan.
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Postby MW » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:21 pm

Brad wrote:Id have Ottens before Brogan.


I wouldnt have Ottens in an AFL side let alone a state side....
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Postby Wedgie » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:27 pm

I'd put some SANFL players born in this state before some they selected, I hope its not just assumed these days that AFL players are the best going around in every position.
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Postby MW » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:03 pm

Wedgie wrote:I'd put some SANFL players born in this state before some they selected, I hope its not just assumed these days that AFL players are the best going around in every position.


Like who? And who would you include from the SANFL???

The only ones I could imagine leaving out are Enright, Thompson and probably Fisher?
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Re: Phantom SA Origin Team

Postby BenchedEagle » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:16 pm

blink wrote:F: B. Ebert, Tredrea (c), O'Loughlin

HF: Edwards, Pavlich, Burton

C: K. Cornes, S. Burgoyne, Cooney

HB: Enright, C. Cornes, Griffen

B: Bassett, Rutten, Johncock

1R: Lade, Goodwin (v/c), Pearce.

Int: Brogan, P. Burgoyne, Thompson, Fisher.

Coach: M. Williams.

Taken from the Advertiser


I think this is pretty spot on to what it would be if Origin was to be played right now
. Interesting that the only players from non-SA teams are: Michael O'Loughlin (Sydney), Matthew Pavlich (Fremantle), Adam Cooney + Ryan Griffen (Western Bulldogs), Corey Enright (Geelong) and Sam Fisher (St Kilda).

What does everyone else think of this?
Would Ricciuto get a spot if he was fit?
Would Bryce Gibbs demand a spot?
No way would i play Treadrea atm in a state side especially as captain. And Chocco as coach??? please! The results Neil Craig is gettin out of a nowhere near full strength Crows side would guarantee him selection over Chocco.
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Postby sydney-dog » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:34 pm

I would not have question marks over Ebert, Micky O, Cooney, Fisher, Thompson, Brogran and Enright

Other players not mentioned and worth considering, Eagleton, Darcy (if fit), Ottens (can play forward or ruck), Scotty Burns, Slattery, Monfries, Corey Jones, Fosdike and Beau Waters

For me Beau Waters is a better choice across HB than Enright

Ottens is worth considering as a forward or ruckman, gives flexibility to the side

Fosdike, is a must in the midfield, big game player, GF's are an example

Corey Jones, is worth considering across HF

Monfries, young but very clever

Coach, does williams get the nod because of his premiership success?

Is Craig the form coach based on the last two seasons?

or do we consider someone independant and not currently aligned to an AFL club, like

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Postby Wedgie » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:38 pm

MW wrote:
Wedgie wrote:I'd put some SANFL players born in this state before some they selected, I hope its not just assumed these days that AFL players are the best going around in every position.


Like who? And who would you include from the SANFL???

The only ones I could imagine leaving out are Enright, Thompson and probably Fisher?


Those 3 sprung to mind and Griffen as well, great young kid but really hadn't done much yet.

None of those 4 would have even got in a 2nd SA State of Origin side in past years.
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