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I heard on 5AA yesterday that the Kangaroos asked for a second game in 2007 against Collingwood (which I am sure all Victorian-based teams ask for) and offered the concession that they give up the right to wear their home guernsey in their 'home' game. The AFL then granted the Kangaroos their wish.

This gets my goat a bit .... not against the Kangaroos who are perfectly entitled to seek a second match with Collingwood for financial reasons. But how has this situation with Collingwood's refusal to wear alternative guernseys got to the point where the AFL now use it as a bargaining tool, coming up with 'compromises' like this so they don't have to confront the issue with Collingwood.

Not only to Collingwood refuse to play ball with their guernsey, they seem to be the club forcing the AFL to not allow Port Adelaide to wear a black and white heritage guernsey, which I think is wrong. Fair enough if Port were playing Collingwood in that round - happy to concede Collingwood's priority there. Otherwise tho, leave them to it. Sydney don't object to Fremantle's heritage effort.

How much influence do Collingwood (with their strong finances and supporter base) have over the AFL?

looking at it from a marketing perspective why wouldnt collingwood have a clash strip, if they have so many supporters then they will make money out of it.

im thinking that collingwood would be the only sporting team in the world refusing to wear a clash strip.

Yes, Collingwood should be made to wear a clash strip if needed. I do admire their want to wear the same traditional guernsey (I hate teams wearing "away" guernsey's just for the sake of it) but every club should have the right to wear their home guernsey when playing at home.

FWIW I really like North Melbourne's new away strip and would like to see them adopt it as their real guernsey in place of the stripes.

They can continue,IMO,to wear their only jumper if they continue to have a devastating impact on the competition and win a Premiership every 40 odd years.

2030 must seem a long,long way away.

Aerie wrote:FWIW I really like North Melbourne's new away strip and would like to see them adopt it as their real guernsey in place of the stripes.

Piss off.....just becuase you follow a team that changes its traditional jumper every year doesnt give you the right to assume every club should do it..

Dutchy wrote:

Aerie wrote:FWIW I really like North Melbourne's new away strip and would like to see them adopt it as their real guernsey in place of the stripes.

Piss off.....just becuase you follow a team that changes its traditional jumper every year doesnt give you the right to assume every club should do it..

SLAM!!

I reckon Port should say to the AFL the same thing and wear it's traditional prison bar jumper every week.

regards,

REB

Well, Port Adelaide should be able to wear it's traditional black and white prison bar jumper EVERY home game, including Collingwood, and where it in road games where it doesn't clash. The club should only wear a teal and silver clash jumper when they play Collingwood in Melbourne, or any other club they clash with when they play interstate.

Collingwood have changed their jumpers in the past, not much i know, but why cant they have an away stripe...if they still wore the original jumper then fair enough stick with it.

And port should be able to play in their prison bar jumpers if they arent playing collingwood in the heritage round.

Dutchy wrote:

Aerie wrote:FWIW I really like North Melbourne's new away strip and would like to see them adopt it as their real guernsey in place of the stripes.

Piss off.....just becuase you follow a team that changes its traditional jumper every year doesnt give you the right to assume every club should do it..

Not assuming anything... I'm talking about the jumper you have in your avatar btw (not sure if the Kangaroos have a third jumper they wear) which is based on the original jumper design. Fair enough if you don't want to change your traditional home guernsey, given everything else that has/is changing for the travelling kangaroos.

I am not sure that the problem is actually with Collingwood. They market their club around being the only Black and White colours and their historical jumper. If Port were permitted to wear Black and White Collingwood would likely feel threatened and have made a commercial decision to protect their trademarks.

The problem is with the AFL leadership who permit Collingwood to do that. Collingwood should have to like everyone else have an away guernsey. It is an absolute disgrace to see Port Adelaide play Collingwood at Football Park and for Port to have to wear an alternate strip, one time they were even forced to wear their aqua training jumper.

Port Adelaide are the club that should put on the pressure for themselves to be permitted to wear their home guernsey at home against Collingwood. Maybe they did have to bow and scrape to Collingwood to be permitted to join the AFL, yet surely that is water under the bridge by now.

People either love Port or hate them, I get that, they are not my side, yet if we are going to hate Port Adelaide then let Port Adelaide be Port Adelaide, let them be black and white and have the prision bar jumper that is despised by so many people because of its success and the legends that have worn the jumper and given everything to play for it. People hate Port Adelaide because they are the best Football club in Australia, their sheer number of premierships in the SANFL which was the best competition in Australia proves that beyond any doubt. I think that it is time for Port Adelaide and their members to stand up to the AFL once and for all and take what is rightfully theirs.

Sojourner wrote:People either love Port or hate them, I get that, they are not my side, yet if we are going to hate Port Adelaide then let Port Adelaide be Port Adelaide, let them be black and white and have the prision bar jumper that is despised by so many people because of its success and the legends that have worn the jumper and given everything to play for it. People hate Port Adelaide because they are the best Football club in Australia, their sheer number of premierships in the SANFL which was the best competition in Australia proves that beyond any doubt. I think that it is time for Port Adelaide and their members to stand up to the AFL once and for all and take what is rightfully theirs.

but when Port were trying to join the AFL, they knew they couldn't wear their prison bar jumper- so why do Port fans get their knickers in a twist because that has been enforced?

agree Punk, so Port fans if you could would you now do away with the teal and silver? How does that effect the PAMFC? Wouldnt that be a slap in the face for the Magpies and devalue their existance?

Simple solution, kick Port and Collingwood out of the AFL, no great loss.

Dutchy wrote:agree Punk, so Port fans if you could would you now do away with the teal and silver? How does that effect the PAMFC? Wouldnt that be a slap in the face for the Magpies and devalue their existance?

I don't think Port supporters are looking for a full-time return to the black and white prison bars. I thought they were looking for 1) prison bars on heritage round and 2) to be able to wear their normal 'home' black and teal guernsey when they play Collingwood.

Port supporters, is that right?

Port still haven't brought out the Rose Pink outfit yet so they can wait until next year before panicking over what they can and can't wear.

Hi Dutchy,

What you have hit on is the current problem that exists between who is actually Port Adelaide, there are various answers to the question. Some might say that the Power are the old Port Adelaide Magpies and that the current Port Magpies are the Ethelton Football Club now in the SANFL. Which I dont think is the case by the way.

The problem is that the board of the Power has the larger share of its directors appointed by the SANFL and Port are pressured to behave as if they are a second composite team from the SANFL.

There is no reason that if Port Power become Black and White, that both teams cant claim liniage to the Port Magpies.

As an example, The Salvation Army are not the Methodist Church, the Methodist Church are not the Salvation Army, yet both groups claim liniage from the founders of the Methodist Church John and Charles Wesley. The same could in a future sense be said of the Port Magpies that both groups are their descendents.

hondo71 wrote:

Dutchy wrote:agree Punk, so Port fans if you could would you now do away with the teal and silver? How does that effect the PAMFC? Wouldnt that be a slap in the face for the Magpies and devalue their existance?

I don't think Port supporters are looking for a full-time return to the black and white prison bars. I thought they were looking for 1) prison bars on heritage round and 2) to be able to wear their normal 'home' black and teal guernsey when they play Collingwood.

Port supporters, is that right?

not according to the posts above...

Ah yes I stand corrected Dutchy ... I see PortAdelaideProud's post now .... I haven't heard that view expressed before better just stop speaking for Port supporters while I am ahead

what i love is that collingwood have taken the heat off the 1 team who have been telling the afl for longer they wouldn't have an alternative strip and thats my team the bombers and when we were told that we had to submit another top this is what we submited.