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Big Red Capt's Blues - Gibbs in 11 man leadership team

Posted:
Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:52 pm
by sydney-dog
Hasn't times changed
Carlton has named a 11 man leadership group, this means it is possible that every second player in a selected side, is part of the leadership group
the leadership team is
Lance Whitnall - Captain
Brendan Fevola
Brad Fisher
Bryce Gibbs
Marc Murphy
Kade Simpson
Heath Scotland
Nick Stevens
Bret Thornton
Jarrad Waite
Simon Wiggins
I'm interested in Members views
1. Is 11 members over the top, does it devalue the honor and responsibilities
2. Players like Murphy and Gibbs are obviously future leaders of the club, but do they need to be part of a leadership group to develop in to a future leadership role
My views, 11 members is over the top, in specific to Murphy and Gibbs, this places so much pressure on them early in there careers, maybe the clun should of provided them leadership mentoring and coaching outside of the leadership group and allow them to focus on establishing themselves as AFL footballers first
ALL THE BEST TO THE TWO BOYS

Posted:
Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:23 pm
by Dutchy
I think Carlton is a different animal and they need to try something different to change the club around...They have done well with Glenelg boys over the years...

Posted:
Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:37 am
by Rik E Boy
I think Carlton have pulled a blue. Half the team in the leadership group? What would you be thinking if you weren't in the leadership group? Doesn't Gibbs have enough pressure on him already?
Geelong tried this several years ago and fell flat on their ar5e and I expect Carlton to do much the same.
regards,
REB

Posted:
Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:24 am
by MightyEagles
Next they'll have the rookie list as part of the leadership group.

Posted:
Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:57 am
by MW
Rik E Boy wrote:I think Carlton have pulled a blue. Half the team in the leadership group? What would you be thinking if you weren't in the leadership group? Doesn't Gibbs have enough pressure on him already?
Geelong tried this several years ago and fell flat on their ar5e and I expect Carlton to do much the same.
regards,
REB
They can't fall much further REB


Posted:
Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:56 am
by smac
Looks to me like they have spread the leadership 'load' to a cross section of the team - young, old, ,fast, slow... They are all in there.
It means everyone is represented and that could be a good thing.
But I hope they have **** up.

Posted:
Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:00 pm
by Zorro
Selecting Gibbs who is yet to play a senior game is absolute madness, but obviously reflective of where this club is at.

Posted:
Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:34 am
by Booney
11 in the leadership group,and I'm not one of them?
Ask yourself that question.

Posted:
Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:04 pm
by whufc
I think that Gibbs and Murphy are part of the group to give the new recruites a voice in the committe. If younger players have feelings they need expressed they can now go through Gibbs and Murphy who as part of the group can express these feelings without causing friction.
I acutally think that this is a great move and as a Carlton fan im glad to see the club trying new things beacuase obviously what we have been doing the last 5 or so years hasn't worked.

Posted:
Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:12 pm
by Rik E Boy
whufc wrote:I think that Gibbs and Murphy are part of the group to give the new recruites a voice
I thought Carlton players had lawyers to do this for them....
regards,
REB

Posted:
Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:21 pm
by rod_rooster
The whole idea of a "Leadership Group" is a big wank if you ask me. Have a captain and vice-captain and be done with it. The other guys can all contribute. Why do you need these buzz words and bullsh*t?

Posted:
Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:35 pm
by am Bays
rod_rooster wrote:The whole idea of a "Leadership Group" is a big wank if you ask me. Have a captain and vice-captain and be done with it. The other guys can all contribute. Why do you need these buzz words and bullsh*t?
Well how else are these leadership "gurus" going to justify their consultancy fees to the clubs....
they need to have some sort of psuedo impact???

Posted:
Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:46 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
Interesting "leadership" group. A first year player (Gibbs), three players (including the captain) who made the headlines for public misdemeanours in the pre-season, and a player (Brett Thornton) who threatened to join the Hawks if the Blues didn't offer him a better contract. Great stuff Blues, that's real leadership quality. I think the reason they've named 11 in the group is to keep an eye on each other, a bit like Alcoholics Anonymous
