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SAINTS TO ANNOUNCE COACH TODAY

Posted:
Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:54 am
by sydney-dog
St Kilda endorses Swan Lyon as its new senior coach
Michael Gleeson and Jake Niall
October 11, 2006
ST KILDA is understood to have chosen Sydney assistant Ross Lyon to be its next senior coach, with an announcement expected to be made as soon as today.
The Swans assistant has leapfrogged his Sydney contemporary John Longmire, who was the early favourite, into the prized St Kilda senior job.
SD Says
Im happy to put my hand up and say I picked this one

Posted:
Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:25 am
by Rik E Boy
poor bastard.....

Posted:
Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:58 am
by Booney
Did he seriously apply for this position? Spend the next 2 or 3 years asking the boss if how he is doing things is right.
St.Kilda's new logo on their jumper---- " IN ROD WE TRUST"

Posted:
Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:43 am
by Blue Boy
He must of got all the tactic questions correct !!!
And yes Reb i do agree !!!

Posted:
Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:21 pm
by stan
Rik E Boy wrote:poor bastard.....
Maybe not. If he has some idea of how to coach he should do alright.

Posted:
Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:21 pm
by Mr66
stan wrote:Rik E Boy wrote:poor bastard.....
Maybe not.
If he has some idea of how to coach he should do alright.
Then He's DOOMED I SAY!!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!!!!


Posted:
Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:22 pm
by mal
Mr66 wrote:stan wrote:Rik E Boy wrote:poor bastard.....
Maybe not.
If he has some idea of how to coach he should do alright.
Then He's DOOMED I SAY!!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!!!!

DOOMED very creative Mr 66
As for that picture ''Oh the pain the pain of it all''

Posted:
Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:59 pm
by sydney-dog
Mal
the mail in Sydney is the job was a very close call between Lyon and Bond and Horse was not well prepared and did not even come close
Horse either thought he had it in the bag or he is over-rated
question is, do we rate assistant coaches too highly just because they have been part of a premiership team or top 4 club, how do we actually measure their value at that time to that particular organisation

Posted:
Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:34 pm
by mal
sydney-dog wrote:Mal
the mail in Sydney is the job was a very close call between Lyon and Bond and Horse was not well prepared and did not even come close
Horse either thought he had it in the bag or he is over-rated
question is, do we rate assistant coaches too highly just because they have been part of a premiership team or top 4 club, how do we actually measure their value at that time to that particular organisation
Refer Craig/Roos fora possible answer.

Posted:
Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:37 pm
by sydney-dog
Mal
that's a good call both were assistants at struggling clubs at the time of their appt

Posted:
Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:04 am
by Dutchy
sydney-dog wrote:Mal
that's a good call both were assistants at struggling clubs at the time of their appt
Remind me, what has Craig done again?


Posted:
Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:07 am
by sydney-dog
well he has turned a non competitve club in to a top 4 club in a short time by developing his list
do you not agree

Posted:
Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:19 am
by mal
sydney-dog wrote:Mal
that's a good call both were assistants at struggling clubs at the time of their appt
WE AGREE
after 6 months of.......

Posted:
Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:28 am
by sydney-dog
lets look at some stats
Last 3 Premiership Coaches
2004- Williams - 6 years to win a premiership
2005 - Paul Roos - 4 years to win a premiership
2006 - Woosha - 5 years to win a premiership
Other long term coaches
Laidley - 4 years with the Kanga's, 2005 only season in the finals
Thompson - 7 years with the cats, 3 of those years played finals footy
Connolly - 5 years with freo, 2 years playing finals footy
Yes, some peoples definition of a good coach is purely a Premiership coach, but a realistic look at Craigy's job thus far, he's done a pretty good job

Posted:
Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:34 am
by mal
sydney-dog wrote:lets look at some stats
Last 3 Premiership Coaches
2004- Williams - 6 years to win a premiership
2005 - Paul Roos - 4 years to win a premiership
2006 - Woosha - 5 years to win a premiership
Other long term coaches
Laidley - 4 years with the Kanga's, 2005 only season in the finals
Thompson - 7 years with the cats, 3 of those years played finals footy
Connolly - 5 years with freo, 2 years playing finals footy
Yes, some peoples definition of a good coach is purely a Premiership coach, but a realistic look at Craigy's job thus far, he's done a pretty good job
SD I said EXACTLY the same thing about Grant Thomas doing a fair job
getting saints to top3-6 but was shot down by the anti aints posters.[re saints the excuses post]
Premierships is not the measure of greatness, Craig getting a average team to
prelim finals is a sensational effort, as was Thommos team playing on that diabolical concrete catastrophe


Posted:
Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:42 am
by sydney-dog
difference is Thomo was handed a good list, Craigy had to develop his list
what also hurt thommo is he refused to recruit a quality ruckman
my mail is even though he had a good relationship with the player he was developing an environment when he controlled every part of the club and failed to listen to medical advise, recruiting advise, player managers, he just grew too big

Posted:
Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:11 pm
by mal
sydney-dog wrote:difference is Thomo was handed a good list, Craigy had to develop his list
what also hurt thommo is he refused to recruit a quality ruckman
my mail is even though he had a good relationship with the player he was developing an environment when he controlled every part of the club and failed to listen to medical advise, recruiting advise, player managers, he just grew too big
Difference is one team played on a football oval as well.
Agree Craig had no help, Thommo had plenty of it.

Posted:
Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:24 pm
by Blue Boy
sydney-dog wrote:difference is Thomo was handed a good list, Craigy had to develop his list
what also hurt thommo is he refused to recruit a quality ruckman
my mail is even though he had a good relationship with the player he was developing an environment when he controlled every part of the club and failed to listen to medical advise, recruiting advise, player managers, he just grew too big
Medical advise was a big part of the farewell decision !!!

Posted:
Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:56 pm
by Blue Boy
sydney-dog wrote:difference is Thomo was handed a good list, Craigy had to develop his list
what also hurt thommo is he refused to recruit a quality ruckman
my mail is even though he had a good relationship with the player he was developing an environment when he controlled every part of the club and failed to listen to medical advise, recruiting advise, player managers, he just grew too big
Looks like the ruckman was an issue to - Gardiner to be a Saint !!!

Posted:
Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:01 pm
by mal
Gardiner/Everitt choice for St Kilda
I, being a parochial Aints supporter make a definite preference for
Spider Everitt
because,
Everitt would be 2 years of hell, Gardiner would be 5 years of hell.