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Cripps 3 votes in a 30 point loss............

Jim05 wrote:What a sham. The AFL golden boy getting looked after again

He was worth a vote v Adelaide but BOG

That and not rubbed out against Brisbane

Joke

2022 winner needs a Asterix next to it.
Disgraceful

WTF did they mention Selwood just then?

Dutchy wrote:WTF did they mention Selwood just then?

Was ridiculous and random

MW wrote:

Dutchy wrote:WTF did they mention Selwood just then?

Was ridiculous and random

I agree. That was weird as ****

Jim05 wrote:2022 winner needs a Asterix next to it.
Disgraceful

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am Bays wrote:

Jim05 wrote:What a sham. The AFL golden boy getting looked after again

He was worth a vote v Adelaide but BOG

That and not rubbed out against Brisbane

I was at the game v Adelaide and no way was he BOG, however every game and every player are in the same boat; being voted upon by numpties.

Very worthy winner!
As good as any going around at the moment.

How many umpires couldn't tell the difference between Amon and Rozee?

FFS. An award voted by umpires.

Basically meaningless.

DOC wrote:FFS. An award voted by umpires.

Basically meaningless.

I was going to argue we shouldnt even be arguing about teh umpires as he should have been ruled ineligible after that charging incident in rd 21.

However the fact a free wasnt paid negates my argument...

Except

AFL boss Gill McLachlan has said he is “very agitated” by the controversial league Appeals Board decision that ultimately gave Patrick Cripps Brownlow glory.

The Carlton skipper’s chances of claiming the prestigious individual honour looked to be dead in the water in August after he was hit with a two-match ban for a bump on Brisbane’s Callum Ah Chee.

But after a four-and-a-half hour hearing Cripps was freed to play, and it became even more of a significant decision when he took out the Brownlow Medal on Sunday night by just one vote.

But in this week’s AFL Record McLachlan teed off at the decision to overturn Cripps’ suspension.

“People are aware I was very agitated by that (Appeals Board) decision,” McLachlan told AFL Record two weeks ago.

“It made no sense to me in any way and it is frustrating to have a legal view about due process or procedural fairness - a complete nonsense - really affect a clear mandate to protect the head.

“We confused our supporters and set ourselves back and that really frustrates me.

“When you can have something that is so important, which is protecting the head, and a clear statement from the MRO and backed up by the Tribunal, and then the player getting off because of a legal technicality and nobody really understanding what the hell happened, I find that challenging.

“So, I have asked the guys to review the system and we will see where that lands.”

A “failure to afford procedural fairness” by the Tribunal when hitting Cripps with a two-game suspension was key to the Appeals Board’s decision.

Carlton’s counsel argued for almost two hours that Cripps had been denied “natural justice” in the initial hearing and the original Tribunal jury had not been adequately directed before it reached its finding.

The Board said this amounted to an “error of law”.

The Board also said that it could not see how the Tribunal could have arrived at the conclusion Cripps’ actions were “in the bumping of an opponent”.

This was because the Board found that the Tribunal, who concluded Cripps bumped Ah Chee, did not actually receive any indication from Cripps or his legal representatives to suggest it.

Ah Chee was concussed from the incident and missed multiple weeks as a result of it.

Booney wrote:How many umpires couldn't tell the difference between Amon and Rozee?

As a neutral I thought Amon had a pretty solid year and I think you need that element of “flashiness” to get votes.
Unfortunately it will always be a midfielders medal. The two best defenders in the comp didn’t poll a single vote between them

Jim05 wrote:

Booney wrote:How many umpires couldn't tell the difference between Amon and Rozee?

As a neutral I thought Amon had a pretty solid year and I think you need that element of “flashiness” to get votes.
Unfortunately it will always be a midfielders medal. The two best defenders in the comp didn’t poll a single vote between them

Tom Stewart got 9, I dont know which defender you think is better than him

Jim05 wrote:

Booney wrote:How many umpires couldn't tell the difference between Amon and Rozee?

As a neutral I thought Amon had a pretty solid year and I think you need that element of “flashiness” to get votes.
Unfortunately it will always be a midfielders medal. The two best defenders in the comp didn’t poll a single vote between them

Moore - 0 votes
Barrass - 0 votes
May - 0 votes (AA)
Lever - 1 vote
Stewart - 9 votes (AA)*
Weitering - 0 votes
Taylor - 1 vote (AA)
Maynard - 0 votes (AA)
Saad - 3 votes (AA Half back flank )
Steele - 13 votes (AA Half back flank )
Sicily- 7 votes

You could say only Stewart of the AA team got votes.

I boxed the top 3 in a trifecta so I was pretty happy, Tom Mitchell was my only failure in an 11 leg multi, should've gone Newcombe.

The count will always be flawed as Oliver and Petracca are arguably the two best mids in the game atm but then they have Maxy who polls well, chuck in Viney and Brayshaw then they'll never win the Brownlow playing for the Dee's.

I have no qualms with Cripps wining it, the bloke leaves nothing on the field and shouldn't have got games anyway.

Cripps was $11 when suspended then un-suspended, had to know that meant he was right up there, worked out alright here

Speaking with a mate this morning whos heavily involved in the football industry, who said the AFL HATES the thought of a winner being ineligible, which is something I really don't understand. IMHO if someone gets rubbed out but tops the count, it just adds to the folklore of footy. Personally I've never cared for the "fairest" aspect and fail to see how it's relevant. Who cares if one of your players isn't the fairest, but is still brilliant and/or prolific?? Easiest way is to drop the fairest criteria imho.

Booney wrote:

Jim05 wrote:

Booney wrote:How many umpires couldn't tell the difference between Amon and Rozee?

As a neutral I thought Amon had a pretty solid year and I think you need that element of “flashiness” to get votes.
Unfortunately it will always be a midfielders medal. The two best defenders in the comp didn’t poll a single vote between them

Moore - 0 votes
Barrass - 0 votes
May - 0 votes (AA)
Lever - 1 vote
Stewart - 9 votes (AA)*
Weitering - 0 votes
Taylor - 1 vote (AA)
Maynard - 0 votes (AA)
Saad - 3 votes (AA Half back flank )
Steele - 13 votes (AA Half back flank )
Sicily- 7 votes

You could say only Stewart of the AA team got votes.

Jack Steele? You mean Jack Sinclair who was named in the AA team, got 9 votes.