Scott Welsh - pay cut

[Blue Boy]

Scott Welsh has been told to take a pay cut or else he can play else where.

[sydney-dog]

my understanding is Scott will not be offered a new contract, the club will attempt to find him a new home during the trade period, if they are unable to do this he will be delisted

With Both Ben and Scotty and Perrie will be in the same boat, their is an expectation from the coaching staff, you need to have the capability to do the entire pre-season, if the club deems that you need to be nursed or managed on a restricted program, then your spot on the list is at serious risk

[Dutchy]

wouldnt want to have an injury at the Crows....geez not good for the harmony at west lakes

welsh wont go interstate so its Power or Westies

[sydney-dog]

Nothing wrong with the Harmony at West Lakes

at the end of the day you get paid good $$$ to play footy, not spend extended periods on the sidelines

[MW]

He definetly deserves a pay cut but we should keep him on the roster for sure. I still think he is in our best 22 when 100% fit.

[sydney-dog]

MW

Question, do you think both Roo and Welsh could play in the same forward line together, I have my doubts

[MW]

F: Welsh, KEY FORWARD FROM TRADE WEEK PLEASE!, Bode
HF: Riccutio, Perrie, Thompson

I think it could work

[sydney-dog]

MW

My HF line would be

HF BIRDMAN KENNY THOMPSON ( Other small midfielders rotating thru HF)

I would play Roo as a leading forward from the FF line, with Bode picking up all the scraps inside 50

Your right, I would target another Young Tall (I am confident the crows have their eye on a couple) to interchange with Kenny between FF and CHF

[scoob]

He well and truly deserves a pay cut, like to see his dollars/min played ratio over the last few years...better off looking after blokes like kenny who are more reliable and more versatile...well done AFC pulled the right rein here...

[Blue Boy]

my understanding is Scott will not be offered a new contract, the club will attempt to find him a new home during the trade period, if they are unable to do this he will be delisted

With Both Ben and Scotty and Perrie will be in the same boat, their is an expectation from the coaching staff, you need to have the capability to do the entire pre-season, if the club deems that you need to be nursed or managed on a restricted program, then your spot on the list is at serious risk

Syd

A contract has been offered its up to Welshy to agree to it !!!

Are you and Mummbles on some sort of bloodless conquest of the AFC !!!

FYI - he was the clubs leading goal scorer in 2005 just in case you forgot !!!

Also are you saying from now on if a player gets injuerd Mummbles wont keep them on the list - FYI we did finish second during the minor round !!!

[Blue Boy]

Nothing wrong with the Harmony at West Lakes

at the end of the day you get paid good $$$ to play footy, not spend extended periods on the sidelines

A couple of players get injured and you want to offload them - Hmmmmmmmmmm

[Blue Boy]

MW

Question, do you think both Roo and Welsh could play in the same forward line together, I have my doubts

Roo would be served best in the midfield - 7 times All Australin in that position probably would give you the answer to that !!!

So I think welshy might just sneak in to the forward line !!!

[am Bays]

IMO Roo's midfield days are numbered a la D jarman 1999-2001, M Voss 2005-06, Buckley 2006. Not to say he wont be chucked onto the ball in for short perods next year to mix things up and to make opposition players look sideways but he will be used primarily for the rest of his career in the forward lines as the leading option.

Roo's ability to do the hard work required for a leading midfield role is diminishing. With his training age Ruccitio runs the risk of strain and overuse injuries to maintain the fitness level required to play the midfield role required of AFL palyers in 2007. His training and playing load (position and games) will have to be closely monitored if we want to get 2-3 more years out of him.

An unfortunate casulaty of Roo's chaanging role is going to be Welsh. To a certain extent Scott's role in the club is going to be more of a cover for injuries and as bench player used in spurts if he plays. ATM i don't believe the coaching staff have him penciled into their best 22 for rd 1 2007.

However as we saw at the start of the year S Stevens wasn't in the best 22 but at the end of the year he was keeping McGregor out of the side. If he stays there is challenge being presented to Welsh......a spot will be there for him if he works hard and demonstrates at westies he can offer something to Adelaide in 2007.

Hungry dogs hunt best as Laurie lawrence would say....

[sydney-dog]

Blue Boy

I am not saying that at all, reality of footy is, 10 years ago you could carry 52 players on you list, now it is 38, so it gives clubs less flexibility to carry risks, this is why the majority of clubs do not offer more then 1 year contracts to players once they hit 30

Obviously, a player like Hentchel who is 23-24 still has 5 years or more of good footy in front of him but once a player hits 32 and is spending more time off the park then on the park of course you have to access the player and make the right decision for the club

The clubs need to manage their list, if we want more sediment in footy, maybe the AFL should have a vetrans list of 2-3 players, which is outside the cap, so it gives clubs more flexibility to carry players such as Hart

[magpie in the 80's]

IMO welshy would need to be 110% fit going into the 1st round next year to be considered in the crows 1st 22. whether he was leading goal kicker in 2005 is diddly squat. spending most of 2006 injured and not playing muchin the sanfl would have worried the coaching staff. unfortunately welsh will be on a 1 year contract for the rest of his time at the AFC

[Blue Boy]

IMO Roo's midfield days are numbered a la D jarman 1999-2001, M Voss 2005-06, Buckley 2006. Not to say he wont be chucked onto the ball in for short perods next year to mix things up and to make opposition players look sideways but he will be used primarily for the rest of his career in the forward lines as the leading option.

Roo's ability to do the hard work required for a leading midfield role is diminishing. With his training age Ruccitio runs the risk of strain and overuse injuries to maintain the fitness level required to play the midfield role required of AFL palyers in 2007. His training and playing load (position and games) will have to be closely monitored if we want to get 2-3 more years out of him.

An unfortunate casulaty of Roo's chaanging role is going to be Welsh. To a certain extent Scott's role in the club is going to be more of a cover for injuries and as bench player used in spurts if he plays. ATM i don't believe the coaching staff have him penciled into their best 22 for rd 1 2007.

However as we saw at the start of the year S Stevens wasn't in the best 22 but at the end of the year he was keeping McGregor out of the side. If he stays there is challenge being presented to Welsh......a spot will be there for him if he works hard and demonstrates at westies he can offer something to Adelaide in 2007.

Hungry dogs hunt best as Laurie lawrence would say....

Agree with the need for Roo's management of fitness as he is so important - but if Scott West can keep gettin the ball im sure a fit Roo could also be used in the middle !!!

[Blue Boy]

Blue Boy

I am not saying that at all, reality of footy is, 10 years ago you could carry 52 players on you list, now it is 38, so it gives clubs less flexibility to carry risks, this is why the majority of clubs do not offer more then 1 year contracts to players once they hit 30

Obviously, a player like Hentchel who is 23-24 still has 5 years or more of good footy in front of him but once a player hits 32 and is spending more time off the park then on the park of course you have to access the player and make the right decision for the club

The clubs need to manage their list, if we want more sediment in footy, maybe the AFL should have a vetrans list of 2-3 players, which is outside the cap, so it gives clubs more flexibility to carry players such as Hart

Your off track on this one Syd.

This is not about carrying blokes or managing blokes - its about takin a pay cut !!! which IMO Welsh needs to do !!!

[Maddogmike]

Syd Dog - knows it all when it comes to AFL. Another prime example. "From my understanding" Unfortunately your understanding is no different from any other ass wipe really. I played 1 game of indoor cricket with Welsh about 6 years ago, doesnt mean I know how many sugars he likes in his coffee. I couldnt give a stuff really.

Stop pretending - you big pretender!

[sydney-dog]

Maddog

where you sitting on middle stump while he was batting

we will just kick back and see if scott gets a new contract

[Maddogmike]

We will sit back while you continue to blab meaningless and unwarranted stuff you supposedly are in the know about!