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Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:04 am
by heater31
Booney wrote:AFL media gushing over Chelsea Randall's leadership in not taking to the field in this weeks AFLW GF.

On Monday night Adelaide's Phil Harper said the club had looked at the AFL Concussion protocol to see if there was a "loophole" that would allow Randall to play this week.

So, in summary, the club who was willing to put the GF ahead of her health under the AFL concussion guidelines is now being heralded for it's great leadership.

If I'm missing something here I'm happy to live and learn.
Baffling given she has commented on a personal experience of seeing a young man collapse and die in a GF after being recently concussed!

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:12 am
by MW
Booney wrote:AFL media gushing over Chelsea Randall's leadership in not taking to the field in this weeks AFLW GF.

On Monday night Adelaide's Phil Harper said the club had looked at the AFL Concussion protocol to see if there was a "loophole" that would allow Randall to play this week.

So, in summary, the club who was willing to put the GF ahead of her health under the AFL concussion guidelines is now being heralded for it's great leadership.

If I'm missing something here I'm happy to live and learn.


The loophole being she was tested and was found to have no concussion symptoms the day after the match. Chelsea is getting all the praise not the club so it's ok mate the club is not getting any recognition...

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:18 am
by stan
It's a tough one with the 12 days protocol at the moment, the key thing is as we move forward and more data is collected the industry is fast learning about the effects on the Brain of concussion.

At some point a story like this where a player would miss a GF due to it. The AFL are showing how serious they are taking this and rightly so, the effects later in life can be devastating and this needs to be in place before more men and women suffer the long term effects of these injuries.

Again as more research is done more will be learnt and more steps will be out in place.

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:21 am
by Booney
Just one moment, if you will.

The AFL has listened to the experts and rightly acknowledged the impact repeated head knocks / concussions have on players and has implemented a system where a concussion requires a mandatory 12 day break. The vision from the day clearly shows Randall being concussed, dazed, wobbly knees, not question.

It is entirely irrelevant how she pulled up the next day as concussion symptoms can and often do not arise for several days post concussion.

For a moment in time the club, and perhaps Randall, put the Grand Final ahead of her health.

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:25 am
by stan
Booney wrote:Just one moment, if you will.

The AFL has listened to the experts and rightly acknowledged the impact repeated head knocks / concussions have on players and has implemented a system where a concussion requires a mandatory 12 day break. The vision from the day clearly shows Randall being concussed, dazed, wobbly knees, not question.

It is entirely irrelevant how she pulled up the next day as concussion symptoms can and often do not arise for several days post concussion.

For a moment in time the club, and perhaps Randall, put the Grand Final ahead of her health.
She wouldn't be a football player if she didn't mate.

Players are a bit silly at times and the potential to play in a GF would cloud ones judgement, that's what the experts are for.

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:23 am
by Dutchy
Hows the boofheads (Steve Rowe etc) suggesting a weeks break between the prelim and the GF to allow concussed players to play, just cause they have served the minimum 12 days doesn't automatically clear them you dickheads :roll: there are plenty of examples of players being out for a month + due to concussion. They don't seem to understand that cause you can't see a broken bone, it isn't a footy injury.

This sort of commentary doesn't help people understand the impact of a head injury, in fact it does the opposite.

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:30 am
by Booney
Dutchy wrote:Hows the boofheads (Steve Rowe etc) suggesting a weeks break between the prelim and the GF to allow concussed players to play, just cause they have served the minimum 12 days doesn't automatically clear them you dickheads :roll: there are plenty of examples of players being out for a month + due to concussion. They don't seem to understand that cause you can't see a broken bone, it isn't a footy injury.

This sort of commentary doesn't help people understand the impact of a head injury, in fact it does the opposite.


If it wasn't Randall and Adelaide it wouldn't have got brought up. On a show where f*cking dumb rules the roost this is taking it to another level.

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:05 pm
by reppoh_eht
Dutchy wrote:Hows the boofheads (Steve Rowe etc) suggesting a weeks break between the prelim and the GF to allow concussed players to play, just cause they have served the minimum 12 days doesn't automatically clear them you dickheads :roll: there are plenty of examples of players being out for a month + due to concussion. They don't seem to understand that cause you can't see a broken bone, it isn't a footy injury.

This sort of commentary doesn't help people understand the impact of a head injury, in fact it does the opposite.


Wasn't it talked about because AFL Coaches are floating the idea?

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:09 pm
by mots02
reppoh_eht wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Hows the boofheads (Steve Rowe etc) suggesting a weeks break between the prelim and the GF to allow concussed players to play, just cause they have served the minimum 12 days doesn't automatically clear them you dickheads :roll: there are plenty of examples of players being out for a month + due to concussion. They don't seem to understand that cause you can't see a broken bone, it isn't a footy injury.

This sort of commentary doesn't help people understand the impact of a head injury, in fact it does the opposite.


Wasn't it talked about because AFL Coaches are floating the idea?


Yep

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/ ... 5fe73949f0

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:11 pm
by Brodlach
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Hows the boofheads (Steve Rowe etc) suggesting a weeks break between the prelim and the GF to allow concussed players to play, just cause they have served the minimum 12 days doesn't automatically clear them you dickheads :roll: there are plenty of examples of players being out for a month + due to concussion. They don't seem to understand that cause you can't see a broken bone, it isn't a footy injury.

This sort of commentary doesn't help people understand the impact of a head injury, in fact it does the opposite.


If it wasn't Randall and Adelaide it wouldn't have got brought up. On a show where f*cking dumb rules the roost this is taking it to another level.

Kornes actually brought it up yesterday

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:13 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Dutchy wrote:Hows the boofheads (Steve Rowe etc) suggesting a weeks break between the prelim and the GF to allow concussed players to play, just cause they have served the minimum 12 days doesn't automatically clear them you dickheads :roll: there are plenty of examples of players being out for a month + due to concussion. They don't seem to understand that cause you can't see a broken bone, it isn't a footy injury.

This sort of commentary doesn't help people understand the impact of a head injury, in fact it does the opposite.

The dude should have two dicks, surely you can't be that silly just playing with one.

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:18 pm
by Dutchy
Cause it doesn't benefit the AFL coaches at all :roll: unbelievable

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:55 pm
by DoublebluTiger
Heard discussion about the idea last Sunday arvo on ABC radio.

The idea of having the week's break before the GF has merit, irrespective of the concussion perspective.

Air time to local leagues, fresher players for GF, Get done with all the awards rubbish in the first week etc.

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:23 am
by Booney
DoublebluTiger wrote:Heard discussion about the idea last Sunday arvo on ABC radio.

The idea of having the week's break before the GF has merit, irrespective of the concussion perspective.

Air time to local leagues, fresher players for GF, Get done with all the awards rubbish in the first week etc.


So mid year bye, pre finals bye, pre GF bye?

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:26 am
by whufc
Booney wrote:
DoublebluTiger wrote:Heard discussion about the idea last Sunday arvo on ABC radio.

The idea of having the week's break before the GF has merit, irrespective of the concussion perspective.

Air time to local leagues, fresher players for GF, Get done with all the awards rubbish in the first week etc.


So mid year bye, pre finals bye, pre GF bye?


There was a week off between the AAMI Community Series and Season proper.

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:31 am
by Armchair expert
I think the pre finals bye kills a lot of momentum..having 2 byes in 5 weeks is a terrible idea

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:33 am
by Lightning McQueen
DoublebluTiger wrote:Heard discussion about the idea last Sunday arvo on ABC radio.

The idea of having the week's break before the GF has merit, irrespective of the concussion perspective.

Air time to local leagues, fresher players for GF, Get done with all the awards rubbish in the first week etc.


So potentially a Grand Finalist could play twice in a month, I'm not sure that's all that fair plus the nerves that a player goes through for a week would be insane at the elite level, having to do it for a fortnight would be crazy.

Chelsea is an amazing person with a huge heart, I really feel for her as it would be bloody hard watching, I've met her a few times and rang her by accident several times and she is a highly spirited happy person, I hope she gets the opportunity to lead her team to premiership next year.

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:50 pm
by daysofourlives
Booney wrote:
DoublebluTiger wrote:Heard discussion about the idea last Sunday arvo on ABC radio.

The idea of having the week's break before the GF has merit, irrespective of the concussion perspective.

Air time to local leagues, fresher players for GF, Get done with all the awards rubbish in the first week etc.


So mid year bye, pre finals bye, pre GF bye?


No the talk was about getting rid of the pre finals bye and have the bye before the GF instead.
I dont mind it, anything that gets rid of the pre finals bye is fine by me.
I think most coaches besides Beveridge would like the pre finals bye gone, still an *premiership, much like Bob Murphy's *medal.

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:09 pm
by JK
Yep don’t mind the pre-GF bye suggestion replacing the pre-Finals series one.

Re: AFLW 2021

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:34 pm
by UK Fan
Suck shit crows!!!!

Choked harder than 2017