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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby JK » Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:25 pm

MW wrote:Port injury list not looking that bad on this analysis...

https://www.afl.com.au/news/634791/injury-ladder-who-s-hurting-the-most-who-s-sitting-pretty-


Always subjective these things - Shiel rates 2 but imho the Bombers have been better without him (maybe coincidental?)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:57 pm

No mention of Butters' importance to our line up.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby JK » Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:05 pm

Booney wrote:No mention of Butters' importance to our line up.


Stat they showed on 360 not long after he went down with injury, based on rating points, had him easily the most important player to a teams winning ratio across the entire competition.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Mr Beefy » Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:18 pm

Booney wrote:No mention of Butters' importance to our line up.

You have depth to cover him so lessens the impact
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:26 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:
Booney wrote:No mention of Butters' importance to our line up.

You have depth to cover him so lessens the impact


Incorrect, we have some depth, but we don't have depth to cover him. We have Ladhams to replace Lycett, McKenzie to replace Clurey, SPP to replace Rockliff, we don't have another Butters on the shelf though.

His energy and his pressure sets the standard for us around the ball, every club has that one player with the spark, with the intangible ingredient they bring to the group, I think Butters is ours.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Bum Crack » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:14 pm

Booney wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:
Booney wrote:No mention of Butters' importance to our line up.

You have depth to cover him so lessens the impact


Incorrect, we have some depth, but we don't have depth to cover him. We have Ladhams to replace Lycett, McKenzie to replace Clurey, SPP to replace Rockliff, we don't have another Butters on the shelf though.

His energy and his pressure sets the standard for us around the ball, every club has that one player with the spark, with the intangible ingredient they bring to the group, I think Butters is ours.

And that is why you ain't winning 3 premierships in 5 years and why your club needs to stop making stupid statements to that effect.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby stan » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:14 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
Booney wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:
Booney wrote:No mention of Butters' importance to our line up.

You have depth to cover him so lessens the impact


Incorrect, we have some depth, but we don't have depth to cover him. We have Ladhams to replace Lycett, McKenzie to replace Clurey, SPP to replace Rockliff, we don't have another Butters on the shelf though.

His energy and his pressure sets the standard for us around the ball, every club has that one player with the spark, with the intangible ingredient they bring to the group, I think Butters is ours.

And that is why you ain't winning 3 premierships in 5 years and why your club needs to stop making stupid statements to that effect.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:00 pm

Big call for a 3rd year player
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby stan » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:02 am

Dutchy wrote:Big call for a 3rd year player
I reckon Butters was there best pick up. Really good player, can find the goals as well. I wouldn't mind him out West.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:24 am

Dutchy wrote:Big call for a 3rd year player


How is his age or experience relevant? The only measure is how important he is to us and at the moment I think he's very important.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:43 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Big call for a 3rd year player


How is his age or experience relevant? The only measure is how important he is to us and at the moment I think he's very important.


Not saying you aren't right, but you have done OK without him also.

IMO if you lost Wines or Boak you would be in much more pain.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:47 am

Dutchy wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Big call for a 3rd year player


How is his age or experience relevant? The only measure is how important he is to us and at the moment I think he's very important.


Not saying you aren't right, but you have done OK without him also.

IMO if you lost Wines or Boak you would be in much more pain.


Surely Dixon is the most important player.
You can’t replace him.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:51 am

Dutchy wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Big call for a 3rd year player


How is his age or experience relevant? The only measure is how important he is to us and at the moment I think he's very important.


Not saying you aren't right, but you have done OK without him also.

IMO if you lost Wines or Boak you would be in much more pain.


Correct, 9-3 and it's all doom and gloom down at Alberton. ;) I think we have players who are closer to Wines and Boak, like Drew, SPP, Rozee than we do a like for like for Butters.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:52 am

amber_fluid wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Big call for a 3rd year player


How is his age or experience relevant? The only measure is how important he is to us and at the moment I think he's very important.


Not saying you aren't right, but you have done OK without him also.

IMO if you lost Wines or Boak you would be in much more pain.


Surely Dixon is the most important player.
You can’t replace him.


Agreed, just as hard to replace but Butters brings that intangible to the table, not just structure or role, he's the energy in our side. It is damning in some ways that a 3rd year player is so highly rated but again, age/experience aren't the measure. Look how important Walsh is to Carlton right now.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:37 am

Booney wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:
Booney wrote:No mention of Butters' importance to our line up.

You have depth to cover him so lessens the impact


Incorrect, we have some depth, but we don't have depth to cover him. We have Ladhams to replace Lycett, McKenzie to replace Clurey, SPP to replace Rockliff, we don't have another Butters on the shelf though.

His energy and his pressure sets the standard for us around the ball, every club has that one player with the spark, with the intangible ingredient they bring to the group, I think Butters is ours.


Lycett is our battery, we can't function without him, Ladhams is a work in progress, I'd prefer him getting exposure still though at the expense of Marshall.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:43 am

amber_fluid wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Big call for a 3rd year player


How is his age or experience relevant? The only measure is how important he is to us and at the moment I think he's very important.


Not saying you aren't right, but you have done OK without him also.

IMO if you lost Wines or Boak you would be in much more pain.


Surely Dixon is the most important player.
You can’t replace him.


We seen how important Boak's presence is when we played Brisbane without him.

While you are correct about our inability to replace Dixon, I think it's more of a case that we re-model our game plan to suit if he isn't out there, more focus on our multiple scoring options, skill and speed.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:48 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Lycett is our battery, we can't function without him, Ladhams is a work in progress, I'd prefer him getting exposure still though at the expense of Marshall.


I'd rather see Ladhams leading the ruck right now, I think he's a better option against the genuine star ruckman who Lycett can't go with.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby whufc » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:54 pm

Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Lycett is our battery, we can't function without him, Ladhams is a work in progress, I'd prefer him getting exposure still though at the expense of Marshall.


I'd rather see Ladhams leading the ruck right now, I think he's a better option against the genuine star ruckman who Lycett can't go with.


Gawn is the only star ruckmen in the top 4 right now.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:09 pm

Booney wrote:No mention of Butters' importance to our line up.


Best of your young guns I reckon. Hope he can return to the field sooner rather than later. Too many injuries these days.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2021

Postby tigerpie » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:40 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Booney wrote:No mention of Butters' importance to our line up.


Best of your young guns I reckon. Hope he can return to the field sooner rather than later. Too many injuries these days.

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