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List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:06 am
by Dutchy
RANKING CLUB AVERAGE AGE (YEARS, DAYS)
1. ADEL Adelaide 24 192
2. HAW Hawthorn 24 179
3. COLL Collingwood 24 98
4. GEEL Geelong 24 95
5. PORT Port Adelaide 24 50
6. GWS Greater Western Sydney 24 16
7. ESS Essendon 23 355
8. SYD Sydney 23 343
9. MELB Melbourne 23 335
10. FRE Fremantle 23 292
11. WCE West Coast 23 282
12. WB Western Bulldogs 23 259
13. RICH Richmond 23 255
14. CARL Carlton 23 244
15. STK St Kilda 23 201
16. BL Brisbane Lions 23 128
17. NMFC North Melbourne 23 117
18. GCFC Gold Coast 23 22

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:08 am
by daysofourlives
Youre not even winning that ;)

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:13 am
by Brodlach
Not really a huge disparity between top and bottom but I am surprised Adelaide is the oldest.

Do they include rookies?

I thought Geelong would have been clearly number 1 with Ablett back

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:15 am
by daysofourlives
I think its an absolutely irrelevant stat anyway, if you want to use that as some sort of measuring tool perhaps average age of the playing 22 is a better guide,
Mind you it does indicate we are back in the premiership window ;)
I think if we have the run Adelaide and Richmond had with injuries last year we can definitely push to top 6 and even top 4, i know many of you wont agree but take out our first 6 weeks last year and it puts us into the top 4, i think you can put that start down to pretty much making it to the last 4 for 6 years in a row, it has to eventually catch up with you. Exasperated even more with the bye round before finals now giving all the sides outside the 8 5 weeks head start instead of 4, thats a massive advantage

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:15 am
by bennymacca
Brodlach wrote:Not really a huge disparity between top and bottom but I am surprised Adelaide is the oldest.

Do they include rookies?


Yep does include rookies according to the article.

Not that surprising, we added two players over 30 after only having 1 beforehand. And most of our players are 25-29

I think we were about 7th or 8th last year

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:18 am
by am Bays
Dutchy wrote:RANKING CLUB AVERAGE AGE (YEARS, DAYS)
1. ADEL Adelaide 24 192
2. HAW Hawthorn 24 179
3. COLL Collingwood 24 98
4. GEEL Geelong 24 95
5. PORT Port Adelaide 24 50
6. GWS Greater Western Sydney 24 16
7. ESS Essendon 23 355
8. SYD Sydney 23 343
9. MELB Melbourne 23 335
10. FRE Fremantle 23 292
11. WCE West Coast 23 282
12. WB Western Bulldogs 23 259
13. RICH Richmond 23 255
14. CARL Carlton 23 244
15. STK St Kilda 23 201
16. BL Brisbane Lions 23 128
17. NMFC North Melbourne 23 117
18. GCFC Gold Coast 23 22


Oooohhh, look, a list of numbers!!

What's the median age??
Any significant differences between the means?
Any significant between the means of previous years?
Any significant difference from the mean of premiership winning clubs?

What that list tells me is that Gold Coast, North and Brisbane are the clubs to have the most players eligible to have their first legal drinks of alcohol in 2018....

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:22 am
by Brodlach
daysofourlives wrote:I think its an absolutely irrelevant stat anyway, if you want to use that as some sort of measuring tool perhaps average age of the playing 22 is a better guide,
Mind you it does indicate we are back in the premiership window ;)
I think if we have the run Adelaide and Richmond had with injuries last year we can definitely push to top 6 and even top 4, i know many of you wont agree but take out our first 6 weeks last year and it puts us into the top 4, i think you can put that start down to pretty much making it to the last 4 for 6 years in a row, it has to eventually catch up with you. Exasperated even more with the bye round before finals now giving all the sides outside the 8 5 weeks head start instead of 4, thats a massive advantage


I think you might struggle again in 2018 due to your star players in the twilight of their careers but you will be back to very good in 2019 when some of your juniors get some more games into them

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:25 am
by Brodlach
bennymacca wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Not really a huge disparity between top and bottom but I am surprised Adelaide is the oldest.

Do they include rookies?


Yep does include rookies according to the article.

Not that surprising, we added two players over 30 after only having 1 beforehand. And most of our players are 25-29

I think we were about 7th or 8th last year


Take Gibson out and we drop to mid table I guess

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:28 am
by daysofourlives
Brodlach wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:I think its an absolutely irrelevant stat anyway, if you want to use that as some sort of measuring tool perhaps average age of the playing 22 is a better guide,
Mind you it does indicate we are back in the premiership window ;)
I think if we have the run Adelaide and Richmond had with injuries last year we can definitely push to top 6 and even top 4, i know many of you wont agree but take out our first 6 weeks last year and it puts us into the top 4, i think you can put that start down to pretty much making it to the last 4 for 6 years in a row, it has to eventually catch up with you. Exasperated even more with the bye round before finals now giving all the sides outside the 8 5 weeks head start instead of 4, thats a massive advantage


I think you might struggle again in 2018 due to your star players in the twilight of their careers but you will be back to very good in 2019 when some of your juniors get some more games into them


You might be right, its probably the hardest list to judge out of all the clubs as to where we might be heading. Im not sure that we have to many in the twilight of their careers though, yes Roughead is one, but dont think there is too many others the wrong side of 30 without looking it up, probably have alot of 26-29yr olds

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:34 am
by Brodlach
Burgoyne, Birchall, Poppy, Henderson, McEvoy,Roughy all in your best 22 and all close to calling time on their careers

A couple of your better recruits need to get on the park JOM and O’Rourke

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:51 am
by bertiebeatle
daysofourlives wrote:I think its an absolutely irrelevant stat anyway, if you want to use that as some sort of measuring tool perhaps average age of the playing 22 is a better guide,



Exact same opinion here. It's irrelevant to do the whole list. Do the best 22 or 25 and that will give a better indication of where the club is at age wise

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:58 am
by Lightning McQueen
Dutchy wrote:RANKING CLUB AVERAGE AGE (YEARS, DAYS)
1. ADEL Adelaide 24 192
2. HAW Hawthorn 24 179
3. COLL Collingwood 24 98
4. GEEL Geelong 24 95
5. PORT Port Adelaide 24 50
6. GWS Greater Western Sydney 24 16
7. ESS Essendon 23 355
8. SYD Sydney 23 343
9. MELB Melbourne 23 335
10. FRE Fremantle 23 292
11. WCE West Coast 23 282
12. WB Western Bulldogs 23 259
13. RICH Richmond 23 255
14. CARL Carlton 23 244
15. STK St Kilda 23 201
16. BL Brisbane Lions 23 128
17. NMFC North Melbourne 23 117
18. GCFC Gold Coast 23 22



The 4 players left on Gold Coast's list must be between 21 and 25.

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:59 am
by Lightning McQueen
bertiebeatle wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:I think its an absolutely irrelevant stat anyway, if you want to use that as some sort of measuring tool perhaps average age of the playing 22 is a better guide,



Exact same opinion here. It's irrelevant to do the whole list. Do the best 22 or 25 and that will give a better indication of where the club is at age wise

I need morell to break it down into a graph like presentation for me to understand the relevance.

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:13 am
by Booney
daysofourlives wrote:Youre not even winning that ;)


If they'd dumped Waite like they should have they'd be in front. ;)

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:24 am
by daysofourlives
Brodlach wrote:Burgoyne, Birchall, Poppy, Henderson, McEvoy,Roughy all in your best 22 and all close to calling time on their careers

A couple of your better recruits need to get on the park JOM and O’Rourke


Burgoyne yes, how could i forget him, the others arent 30 yet
Poppy 29, bit part, role player anyway
Mcevoy 28
Henderson 29 questionable if hes in best 22
Birchall 29
Frawley 29
As i said i reckon we probably have the most 26-29yr olds in the comp, hard to tell just going by gut without a graph. Add Gunston, Bruest, Stratton, Rioli, Smith, Shiels, Duryea, Whitecross, Ceglar, Shoenmakers, thats 17 players in that age group, but far from finished. Luckily theyre not all best 22 players

I trhink O'Rourke is finished, only survived because there was no point drafting another kid for 2 years who is just as bad, will be delisted next year.
Omeara the key to top 4-6, if he is a bust again we dont have the midfield quality to match it with the big boys.

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:08 pm
by bennymacca
This was on the Herald sun website.

Probably a better indication of where each club is at as it breaks down the age ranges.

(Also has hawks as oldest, my guess is that the HS hasn’t included rookie list whereas afl website did )

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Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:30 pm
by Booney
Adelaide all in for a flag in '18.

Two keys, Betts ( 32 next year ) and Jacobs ( 30 next year ) are at ages that suggest their best footy isn't in front of them.

Surely Adelaide get games in O'Brien in the '18 pre season comp?

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:32 pm
by MW
Booney's been inspired by Ambers hate of Port :lol:
#crowsfan

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:39 pm
by bertiebeatle
bennymacca wrote:This was on the Herald sun website.

Probably a better indication of where each club is at as it breaks down the age ranges.

(Also has hawks as oldest, my guess is that the HS hasn’t included rookie list whereas afl website did )

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Freo with 6 guys over 30 :oops: :oops:

Re: List Age of clubs 2018

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:43 pm
by Lightning McQueen
bertiebeatle wrote:Freo with 6 guys over 30 :oops: :oops:

Ballantyne
Pearce
Mundy
Sandilands
Spurr
Johnson

Fair collection of importance there though