SA Footy

Seems pretty complicated doesn't it? Unravelling the mess that we've got ourselves into. Do we create zones, cap interchanges, have starting points? The game is (I think) at crisis point. It's becoming quite boring. The obvious exceptions are the Bullies and anyone that can implement fast paced footy. Problem is, it's the exception to the rule. 9 games a week is too much. Too much to watch and too much to take in.

The AFL has evolved into an employment enterprise. Clubs hire more off field staff than on field.

My theory is quite simple in theory, difficult to implement in practice. But I thought I'd put it out there because I think it COULD work.

Firstly, let's look at the options.

Starting points - positives are that it will clear congestion. No doubt. Negatives - continuity in the game, penalties if it's not carried out. Potentially more foolish AFL decisions to review and stuff up.

Zones - positives are that it might clear the game up (not sure). Negatives - lots. None more so than the image of the game being aligned with netball.

Interchange caps - The initial reason the sub was brought in was because of the stats around players getting injured early and the common link of those teams losing. Putting a cap in might assist but injuries might also increase because of body fatigue.

My theory is, as I said, simple. Rid the AFL of assistant coaches. Have a head coach, fitness staff and that's it. Secondly, limit contact hours. Players can attend the club for say 40 hours a week (besides match day). The coaches then will have to hammer as much info in a limited time frame. Players will become less robotic because they'll have to use more judgement on field. Stoppages will be judgement related rather than analysed, overanalysed and overoveranalysed. And that's the crux of the problem The game is analysed to the n'th degree. And thinking forward, in 10 years time, the game is going to only get worse. Let's nip it in the bud now!

In essence, take the AFL back to semi professional.

Problems - implementing it. How do you stop the sneaky team meetings outside of hours. The only way I think it'll work is with player buy in and the AFLPA also buying in. That's the only way I think it's possible.

i know the masses will comment, I'll be interested in your thoughts not only on my suggestion, but yours as well.

If zones come into the game then i will stop watching, idea is ridiculous

mighty hounds wrote:If zones come into the game then i will stop watching, idea is ridiculous

I dont mind having one player must be in F50 at all times. As long as one player has to be it opens the door for a Tony Lockett type to come back into the game and I can guarantee coaches will not leave that type of player one out so will send another back, then the attacking coach will send one to man him up. Then the defensive coach will want an extra so he sends another one which the forward coach will man up and before you know it we'll have 6 players in the forward line again.
Problem solved, unless im missing something

perhaps we should get the umpiring right first before we start worrying about other things. Reward the bloke first to the footy more and penalise incorrect disposal. If there is issues after that still then we can at least tick off the basics on the list.

FWIW the biggest issue to me is the number of teams in the comp.

LaughingKookaburra wrote:perhaps we should get the umpiring right first before we start worrying about other things. Reward the bloke first to the footy more and penalise incorrect disposal. If there is issues after that still then we can at least tick off the basics on the list.

FWIW the biggest issue to me is the number of teams in the comp.

Was typing out the same thing. Leave the rules alone and get the umpires up to speed to adjudicate it correctly before we look at changing anything else. The inconsistencies of umpires almost make it unwatchable. I'd rather commentators have a buzzer to pay frees, constantly they will be saying "that was a free, that was paid last time, where did the umpire pull that from" everyone but the blokes in yellow seem to know the correct decisions. And that's not a shot at them either, the day to day rule changes and tweeks to rules must make it impossible for the guys with the whistle to act in the heat of the moment.

The football doesn't need fixing. The umpiring needs a goddam overhaul.

Q. wrote:The football doesn't need fixing. The umpiring needs a goddam overhaul.

Thought the umpiring was better the other week when they paid more frees, they take way too long to call for a ball up. As soon as a tackle is made blow the whistle, its either a ball up or holding the ball or in the back (they seem to have forgotten this rule). Dont give the players a chance to get to the congestion. I have noticed creeping in is a team mate ripping the ball out of a guys hands that has been tackled, last time i checked thats a throw or incorrect disposal whatever you want to call it, its illegal to hand the ball to a team mate

LaughingKookaburra wrote:perhaps we should get the umpiring right first before we start worrying about other things. Reward the bloke first to the footy more and penalise incorrect disposal. If there is issues after that still then we can at least tick off the basics on the list.

FWIW the biggest issue to me is the number of teams in the comp.

Unfortunately the number of teams will never be fixed, the greedy Victorians/AFL wont allow Melbourne teams to go by the way side and they've invested too much into Sydney and QLD to admit traditional Rugby League states can only support 1 club each in the AFL

At either the U16 or U18 national carnival they trialled a rule where when there was a stoppage each team had to have at least 5 players in their forward or defensive halves & 2 each inside fwd/def 50's respectively. Apparently it made the game more free flowing, had more of the traditional one on one's etc, rather than all players running to the stoppage they would run back to their traditional positions, it made sure sides didn't have 36 players in one half of the ground & no team got a free against them coz they were conscientious of the rule.

There are far too many teams and the talent pool is thin

not sure we need to implement zones etc

the game like global warming has always been in a cycle.

Only 10yrs ago the same debate was happening with the Swans and then came along Geelongs attacking style.

now the game has slipped into defence first but we have the Dogs coming through and opening the game up just as the Cats were able to do.

the main issue is the umpiring and ridiculous tinkering of the rules....

Watch Hawthorn, West Coast or the Bulldogs play and there's nothing wrong with the game.

leave the game alone ffs

daysofourlives wrote:

mighty hounds wrote:If zones come into the game then i will stop watching, idea is ridiculous

I dont mind having one player must be in F50 at all times. As long as one player has to be it opens the door for a Tony Lockett type to come back into the game and I can guarantee coaches will not leave that type of player one out so will send another back, then the attacking coach will send one to man him up. Then the defensive coach will want an extra so he sends another one which the forward coach will man up and before you know it we'll have 6 players in the forward line again.
Problem solved, unless im missing something

Go play/coach a netball team if you like zones

its the rules that have already been integrated that have changed the game to what it is

or the fact that these men can run 20km per game, the distances covered enable 36 players around the ball at all times

reducing the interchange cap will help & getting rid of the sub rule

I think we should step back in time and untweak a few things that didn't need tweaking.

* Piss the interchange cap off.
* Remove the sub rule.
* Allow the bump to be used as a tool to unbalance your opposition to enable you to get possession of the ball without being tackled immediately and being pinged.
* Find umpires who all interpret the rules the same way.
* Fine tune the MRP.

The actual game doesn't need fixing although it annoys me when they kick it backwards to each other in the last few minutes as it often kills my multi's but that's just me being selfish. Having said that, it wouldn't bother me if the introduced the rule that if you kick the ball backwards in your defensive half it can't be classified as a mark.

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:There are far too many teams and the talent pool is thin

not sure we need to implement zones etc

the game like global warming has always been in a cycle.

Only 10yrs ago the same debate was happening with the Swans and then came along Geelongs attacking style.

now the game has slipped into defence first but we have the Dogs coming through and opening the game up just as the Cats were able to do.

the main issue is the umpiring and ridiculous tinkering of the rules....

AFL seems to be the only sport where they feel it's necessary to make rules changes every year. How often do you see a rule in all the other major sporting organisations around the world? Hardly ever if at all. Leave the game alone!

Lightning McQueen wrote:I think we should step back in time and untweak a few things that didn't need tweaking.

* Piss the interchange cap off.

a cap would ensure players would have to stay out on the field longer and tire, instead of rotating 4 players every 30 seconds when theyre heart rate is peaking

there is no exhaustion out there, it needs to return

the ruck rules are also ugly, i felt sick in the port bombers game when the ump pulled out infringements multiple times for simple innocent wrestling

no bouncing the ball, throw up everytime, and prevent having to bring the ball back when the ump **** up his bounce

* one forward & one defender must be in the forward 50 at all times is a rule i like

Ah yes, tired players, just what we need. Tired players translates to lower disposal efficiency. Lower disposal efficiency equals turnovers. Turnovers makes footy shit to watch.

Q. wrote:Ah yes, tired players, just what we need. Tired players translates to lower disposal efficiency. Lower disposal efficiency equals turnovers. Turnovers makes footy shit to watch.

Plus injuries.

Too many teams, too many knee jerk rules. Piss off two teams and go back to nineties umpiring and protect the bloke going for the ball. Get rid of the sub rule, two teams and the goal review.

Job done.

regards,

REB