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Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 9:10 am
by Armchair expert
Josh bootsma Mitch McGovern ???

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:10 am
by beef
Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:39 am
by Corona Man
beef wrote:Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight

+1

Who is going to play on the inside & get the ball out to Judd, Bradley & Co?

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:54 am
by whufc
Corona Man wrote:
beef wrote:Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight

+1

Who is going to play on the inside & get the ball out to Judd, Bradley & Co?


:D :D :D

Play on the inside...…….does that even happen anymore in the AFL. :D

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:56 am
by Booney
beef wrote:Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight


I hated him then. I hate him now. If not for Shane Mumford he'd still be most despised football villain.

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:59 am
by whufc
Booney wrote:
beef wrote:Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight


I hated him then. I hate him now. If not for Shane Mumford he'd still be most despised football villain.


Do we think a bloke like Diesel would actually be any good in modern day football. Would there be a place for solely and in and under type with no leg speed at all.

I actually don't think his football smarts would be enough in modern day footy, he would just get bullied at the ball ups by the likes of 6ft Cripps, Fyfe, Martin, Bontempelli.

Great footballer in his era though.

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:01 am
by Corona Man
whufc wrote:
Corona Man wrote:
beef wrote:Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight

+1

Who is going to play on the inside & get the ball out to Judd, Bradley & Co?


:D :D :D

Play on the inside...…….does that even happen anymore in the AFL. :D

In his day, it did. Yep slow heavy legged plodder. Great hands, quick brain. Could play.

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:03 am
by gadj1976
I'm another Diesel fan

In no particular order;

Fev
Diesel
Sos

Bookends and the centre!

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:03 am
by whufc
Corona Man wrote:
whufc wrote:
Corona Man wrote:
beef wrote:Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight

+1

Who is going to play on the inside & get the ball out to Judd, Bradley & Co?


:D :D :D

Play on the inside...…….does that even happen anymore in the AFL. :D

In his day, it did. Yep slow heavy legged plodder. Great hands, quick brain. Could play.


Yeah no denying his brilliance in his day.

I picked my 3 based on who I wanted in my team if they were playing AFL as its played this weekend.

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:05 am
by amber_fluid
gadj1976 wrote:I'm another Diesel fan

In no particular order;

Fev
Diesel
Sos

Bookends and the centre!


You’d take Fev over Sticks?

Loved SOS as a player but I couldn’t find room for him in my top 3.

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:07 am
by Booney
whufc wrote:
Booney wrote:
beef wrote:Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight


I hated him then. I hate him now. If not for Shane Mumford he'd still be most despised football villain.


Do we think a bloke like Diesel would actually be any good in modern day football. Would there be a place for solely and in and under type with no leg speed at all.

I actually don't think his football smarts would be enough in modern day footy, he would just get bullied at the ball ups by the likes of 6ft Cripps, Fyfe, Martin, Bontempelli.

Great footballer in his era though.


Cannot compare eras ever, let alone someone like him or McDermott in todays game.

Williams certainly wouldn't get away with being a filthy little prick in packs like he did then.

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:24 am
by RB
whufc wrote:Do we think a bloke like Diesel would actually be any good in modern day football.


Yes.

I concede it's tempting to view the Fyfe, Cripps, Pendlebury body types dominating midfield these days as making it very difficult for Diesel types.

And that would be true in most cases.

The problem for those blokes is that Diesel would get his hands on the footy first.

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 12:51 pm
by daysofourlives
whufc wrote:
Booney wrote:
beef wrote:Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight


I hated him then. I hate him now. If not for Shane Mumford he'd still be most despised football villain.


Do we think a bloke like Diesel would actually be any good in modern day football. Would there be a place for solely and in and under type with no leg speed at all.

I actually don't think his football smarts would be enough in modern day footy, he would just get bullied at the ball ups by the likes of 6ft Cripps, Fyfe, Martin, Bontempelli.

Great footballer in his era though.


Sam Mitchell managed ok
SOS
Sticks
Judd

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 12:59 pm
by whufc
daysofourlives wrote:
whufc wrote:
Booney wrote:
beef wrote:Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight


I hated him then. I hate him now. If not for Shane Mumford he'd still be most despised football villain.


Do we think a bloke like Diesel would actually be any good in modern day football. Would there be a place for solely and in and under type with no leg speed at all.

I actually don't think his football smarts would be enough in modern day footy, he would just get bullied at the ball ups by the likes of 6ft Cripps, Fyfe, Martin, Bontempelli.

Great footballer in his era though.


Sam Mitchell managed ok
SOS
Sticks
Judd


Yeah Sam Mitchell was one who came to mind when trying to compare Williams. Out of curiosity it would be interesting to know what their running capabilities compared like.

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 2:42 pm
by beef
2 Brownlows (should've been 3) - just ask him
A norm smith
team of the century

Pretty sure he'd still go alright in this era

In 30 years time people will be saying that cripps and fyfe wouldnt survive in the 2050's

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 2:47 pm
by JK
Sticks
Diesel
SOS

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 3:21 pm
by Booney
Bradley
Kernahan
Judd

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 3:34 pm
by gadj1976
amber_fluid wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:I'm another Diesel fan

In no particular order;

Fev
Diesel
Sos

Bookends and the centre!


You’d take Fev over Sticks?

Loved SOS as a player but I couldn’t find room for him in my top 3.


ahhh....yeh that's why I wrote it! Pure matchwinner.

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 3:37 pm
by gadj1976
whufc wrote:
Booney wrote:
beef wrote:Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight


I hated him then. I hate him now. If not for Shane Mumford he'd still be most despised football villain.


Do we think a bloke like Diesel would actually be any good in modern day football. Would there be a place for solely and in and under type with no leg speed at all.

I actually don't think his football smarts would be enough in modern day footy, he would just get bullied at the ball ups by the likes of 6ft Cripps, Fyfe, Martin, Bontempelli.

Great footballer in his era though.


I think this is the problem with modern footy. Clever but slower players don't (or mightn't) have a role in the game. If these type of players are lost, does it make the game better?

Personally, I don't think he'd make it today because of all the scouting that's done, they'd look past him because he mightn't be able to get to each contest. When he did, he tore it up but nowadays, unless he got fitter and worked on his aerobic fitness he wouldn't get selected IMO.

Re: Carlton

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 3:48 pm
by beef
gadj1976 wrote:
whufc wrote:
Booney wrote:
beef wrote:Cant believe only 1 person has said Greg Williams

Its Diesel then daylight


I hated him then. I hate him now. If not for Shane Mumford he'd still be most despised football villain.


Do we think a bloke like Diesel would actually be any good in modern day football. Would there be a place for solely and in and under type with no leg speed at all.

I actually don't think his football smarts would be enough in modern day footy, he would just get bullied at the ball ups by the likes of 6ft Cripps, Fyfe, Martin, Bontempelli.

Great footballer in his era though.


I think this is the problem with modern footy. Clever but slower players don't (or mightn't) have a role in the game. If these type of players are lost, does it make the game better?

Personally, I don't think he'd make it today because of all the scouting that's done, they'd look past him because he mightn't be able to get to each contest. When he did, he tore it up but nowadays, unless he got fitter and worked on his aerobic fitness he wouldn't get selected IMO.

Carlton rejected him twice in the early 80s for those exact reasons. Then paid massive money to get him 10 years later.
Some things dont change at Carlton