SA Footy

Before you think I'm crazy, consider this.
If say Port chose only local boys over the next 5 years, could it possibly, create
1. a group of players who truly want to be here.
2. A team of locals that would appeal to people.
3. Takes out the go home factor.
4. An environment where young locals know they have a much better chance of representing a club as well as their state.
5. Maybe they could also target young territorians, as they have no club affiliated to them, which could also reduce the go home factor.
6. This could create a club that represents the central corridor of Australia.

I realize that this means that you would miss out on some great talent at times, but I reckon you would much rather have a number 60 draft pick who plays for their club and state with passion and heart, than a slightly more talented Victorian at 40.
There is less of a settle in factor for one.
Not the perfect system, but haven't we just seen what Sydney achieved, with a team where over half of the players you hardly recognize. They want to be there and have created a culture, where dogged persistence can overcome pure talent ( Hawthorn)
Open for discussion

I know first hand of a young guy who played country footy and grew up barracking for the Crows. Nominated for the draft got picked up by a Queensland team. It took him away from his home state (SA) and he is homesick and pretty much
Disillusioned. He is hardly going to give his best up there in Qld. He jokingly said on the eve before the draft that he would be wrapped to play in SA even for Ports. the whole draft system is a Sham IMO

drifter wrote:Before you think I'm crazy, consider this.
If say Port chose only local boys over the next 5 years, could it possibly, create
1. a group of players who truly want to be here.
2. A team of locals that would appeal to people.
3. Takes out the go home factor.
4. An environment where young locals know they have a much better chance of representing a club as well as their state.
5. Maybe they could also target young territorians, as they have no club affiliated to them, which could also reduce the go home factor.
6. This could create a club that represents the central corridor of Australia.

I realize that this means that you would miss out on some great talent at times, but I reckon you would much rather have a number 60 draft pick who plays for their club and state with passion and heart, than a slightly more talented Victorian at 40.
There is less of a settle in factor for one.
Not the perfect system, but haven't we just seen what Sydney achieved, with a team where over half of the players you hardly recognize. They want to be there and have created a culture, where dogged persistence can overcome pure talent ( Hawthorn)
Open for discussion

How many Sydney or NSW players represented the Swans last week?

Ruben Carter wrote:

drifter wrote:Before you think I'm crazy, consider this.
If say Port chose only local boys over the next 5 years, could it possibly, create
1. a group of players who truly want to be here.
2. A team of locals that would appeal to people.
3. Takes out the go home factor.
4. An environment where young locals know they have a much better chance of representing a club as well as their state.
5. Maybe they could also target young territorians, as they have no club affiliated to them, which could also reduce the go home factor.
6. This could create a club that represents the central corridor of Australia.

I realize that this means that you would miss out on some great talent at times, but I reckon you would much rather have a number 60 draft pick who plays for their club and state with passion and heart, than a slightly more talented Victorian at 40.
There is less of a settle in factor for one.
Not the perfect system, but haven't we just seen what Sydney achieved, with a team where over half of the players you hardly recognize. They want to be there and have created a culture, where dogged persistence can overcome pure talent ( Hawthorn)
Open for discussion

How many Sydney or NSW players represented the Swans last week?

7 i reckon

Footy players are a bunch of sooks these days.
Didnt hear Kernahan, Platten etc sook and want to go home.
Most Cities in Australia are only an hour or two away by plane and with the modern technology there is no excuse for getting homesick. Most people I know would happily work interstate for $400k a year

Jim05 wrote:Footy players are a bunch of sooks these days.
Didnt hear Kernahan, Platten etc sook and want to go home.
Most Cities in Australia are only an hour or two away by plane and with the modern technology there is no excuse for getting homesick. Most people I know would happily work interstate for $400k a year

id work overseas

Jim05 wrote:Footy players are a bunch of sooks these days.
Didnt hear Kernahan, Platten etc sook and want to go home.
Most Cities in Australia are only an hour or two away by plane and with the modern technology there is no excuse for getting homesick. Most people I know would happily work interstate for $400k a year

There were a few who returned to the Crows in the early years such as McGuinness, Hall, Hughes, Anderson and Lindner (although admittedly some of them were nearly finished with their VFL club).

There were also blokes who returned to the Eagles such as Glendinning, Malaxos and Annear, when the Eagles started.

I think the thing with Platten, Kernahan, Bradley etc - they had already played for their VFL clubs for 5 or 6 years by the time the Crows came win, they had won premierships, and their clubs really looked after them. It also helped having a few other SA blokes playing alongside them. Back then, I think the players more easily developed an affection for their clubs, whereas now playing footy is very much an occupation.

I personally can't really blame players wanting to return to their home state. If I was in their situation, and there was an opportunity to earn a similar wage in my home state, I would be pretty keen to return home to where I grew up too. I think the nature of the AFL draft can take quite a bit of the blame for player movement. If players had the opportunity to play in a club in their home state - through zoning - there may not be as much movement.

Yet it seems OK here that SA born players are fine to come back home, yet Vic kids who wanna leave SA after drafting are sooks.....

Jim05 wrote:Footy players are a bunch of sooks these days.
Didnt hear Kernahan, Platten etc sook and want to go home.

Kernahan, Platten, Naley, Bradley etc were all adults with a few years of senior footy and a fair but of life experience under their belts, the draftees now are in the main just kids, there is a lot of difference between a 18 yo and a 23 yo

GWW wrote: If players had the opportunity to play in a club in their home state - through zoning - there may not be as much movement.

That would be fine for the SA, WA and Vic (although their spread may be thin) based clubs, QLD & NSW clubs would struggle to put a side on the park

Jim05 wrote:Footy players are a bunch of sooks these days.
Didnt hear Kernahan, Platten etc sook and want to go home.
Most Cities in Australia are only an hour or two away by plane and with the modern technology there is no excuse for getting homesick. Most people I know would happily work interstate for $400k a year

Kernahan and co played league footy for years before they went over and it was their choice to do so. Pretty big difference between that and a kid being forced to play in Qld.

regards,

REB

Rik E Boy wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Footy players are a bunch of sooks these days.
Didnt hear Kernahan, Platten etc sook and want to go home.
Most Cities in Australia are only an hour or two away by plane and with the modern technology there is no excuse for getting homesick. Most people I know would happily work interstate for $400k a year

Kernahan and co played league footy for years before they went over and it was their choice to do so. Pretty big difference between that and a kid being forced to play in Qld.

regards,

REB

The amount of support these kids get these days is phenomenal though... host families etc.

Shaun Burgoyne was a SA lad - didn't stop him from leaving.

scoob wrote:

Rik E Boy wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Footy players are a bunch of sooks these days.
Didnt hear Kernahan, Platten etc sook and want to go home.
Most Cities in Australia are only an hour or two away by plane and with the modern technology there is no excuse for getting homesick. Most people I know would happily work interstate for $400k a year

Kernahan and co played league footy for years before they went over and it was their choice to do so. Pretty big difference between that and a kid being forced to play in Qld.

regards,

REB

The amount of support these kids get these days is phenomenal though... host families etc.

Shaun Burgoyne was a SA lad - didn't stop him from leaving.

Did he get drafted to an interstate team? Or do you mean when he went to Hawthorn?

MatteeG wrote:Yet it seems OK here that SA born players are fine to come back home, yet Vic kids who wanna leave SA after drafting are sooks.....

How sad, too bad.

That's the system, that's life.

Uni kids move interstate all the time.

Some thrive, some cope, some don't.

All without a nice pro contract...

scoob wrote:Shaun Burgoyne was a SA lad - didn't stop him from leaving.

Junior Burger leaving might have had something to do with deep-rooted problems at Port at the time.

Now we're just rooted...

HH3 wrote:

scoob wrote:

Rik E Boy wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Footy players are a bunch of sooks these days.
Didnt hear Kernahan, Platten etc sook and want to go home.
Most Cities in Australia are only an hour or two away by plane and with the modern technology there is no excuse for getting homesick. Most people I know would happily work interstate for $400k a year

Kernahan and co played league footy for years before they went over and it was their choice to do so. Pretty big difference between that and a kid being forced to play in Qld.

regards,

REB

The amount of support these kids get these days is phenomenal though... host families etc.

Shaun Burgoyne was a SA lad - didn't stop him from leaving.

Did he get drafted to an interstate team? Or do you mean when he went to Hawthorn?

Hawthorn.... was making the point players move for all types of reason - not only because they are homesick

Better set up an AIS in each state if we're worried about this sort of thing - our swimmers, gymnasts, hockey players might get homesick.
And...time for FC Porto and the like to base themselves in Australia, as our young soccer players are getting homesick.

Magpiespower wrote:How sad, too bad.

That's the system, that's life.

Uni kids move interstate all the time.

Some thrive, some cope, some don't.

All without a nice pro contract...

scoob wrote:Shaun Burgoyne was a SA lad - didn't stop him from leaving.

Junior Burger leaving might have had something to do with deep-rooted problems at Port at the time.

Now we're just rooted...

Fair case of sour grapes I think... but agree with all your post.

Crows fans have to accept that not every player in the league wants to play for them. Pretty quick to trun on the lad - wishing his career ended and all... show a lot about their mentality.

scoob wrote:Fair case of sour grapes I think... but agree with all your post.

Crows fans have to accept that not every player in the league wants to play for them. Pretty quick to trun on the lad - wishing his career ended and all... show a lot about their mentality.

Disappointed when Burgoyne left. But completely understood.

The wheels were already starting to fall off under Choco. No doubt he knew they we're gonna come flying off any second!

When he left, Burgoyne mentioned how he wanted to experience the footy culture in Melbourne. Now, if I was a young bloke, I'd be stoked to be drafted by a Melbourne club. Soak all that up. Strut around town like a superstar. Even play a bit of footy.

Still, it kills me seeing JB cruise around for the Hawks and winning crucial clearances.

Smoove as butter...

Magpiespower wrote:

scoob wrote:Fair case of sour grapes I think... but agree with all your post.

Crows fans have to accept that not every player in the league wants to play for them. Pretty quick to trun on the lad - wishing his career ended and all... show a lot about their mentality.

Disappointed when Burgoyne left. But completely understood.

The wheels were already starting to fall off under Choco. No doubt he knew they we're gonna come flying off any second!

When he left, Burgoyne mentioned how he wanted to experience the footy culture in Melbourne. Now, if I was a young bloke, I'd be stoked to be drafted by a Melbourne club. Soak all that up. Strut around town like a superstar. Even play a bit of footy.

Still, it kills me seeing JB cruise around for the Hawks and winning crucial clearances.

Smoove as butter...

What you don't wish him serious head injuries and the end of his career? What sort of supporter are you?