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Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:08 pm
by Coach Bombay
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspxLibba from the bulldogs caught with drugs on King Street....

Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:04 pm
by ORDoubleBlues
I assume that the confidentiality of the drug situation is only if you are caught out in testing as opposed to how young Tom has been caught out in possession, in a public place by police
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:12 pm
by Media Park
Tony must be proud.
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:32 pm
by overloaded
WGAF?
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:40 pm
by heater31
Only problem is this is only one of very few incidents we hear about.
Ben Cousins and Travis Tuck are the others that immediately spring to mind.
How many are they that we have no idea about?
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:06 pm
by Media Park
Lawrence Angwin says hi.
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:00 pm
by CUTTERMAN
The whole AFL drug testing programme is designed to find out who is taking drugs and how often, their 3 strikes policy (which is renewed every five years or so) is designed so that the probability that players involved will be caught three times is very slim and therefore un able to be made public. The AFL know who and how often but the media and public don't, image of the AFL remains clean....nothing to see here folks, move along!
This means that a player that has only tested positive twice within a five year period (?), can keep playing and test positive twice in the next five years and nothing will happen! Who's to say that the AFL knowing that a star player has tested positive twice choose to start aiming their tests elswhere, then focus back on the player once they're in their next 5 year period.
If they were serious about drug testing and outing these players they would have a flat 3 strikes and you're out policy full stop. My suspicions are that through their testing the AFL know just how bad the issue is and desperately want to keep it in house. Thus the 5 year testing period.
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:13 pm
by Squids
Correct me if i am wrong, but once you get busted you can go into some rehab program and you are excluded from further testing. So basically unless you decline the rehab its basically impossible to get the 3rd strike. I don't think the clubs know until you get that 2nd strike either.
When you think about it, if Buddy or Pendlebury got busted 3 times, do you really think they would be booted?...............I don't.
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:45 pm
by CUTTERMAN
Squids wrote:Correct me if i am wrong, but once you get busted you can go into some rehab program and you are excluded from further testing. So basically unless you decline the rehab its basically impossible to get the 3rd strike. I don't think the clubs know until you get that 2nd strike either.
When you think about it, if Buddy or Pendlebury got busted 3 times, do you really think they would be booted?...............I don't.
Squibber, I'm not sure about the re-hab stuff but wouldn't be surprised, as for the clubs knowing, you're right, they're informed after the second positive test by the club doctor. After the third the public knows.
As for star players, ehemm, I think the precedent has pretty well been set however I think that the AFL would pick out a sacrificial lamb when they can.
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:56 pm
by dedja
Laurence Angwin says hello ...
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:57 pm
by Q.
Shouldn't even be testing for non-PEDs. And they wouldn't if it weren't for pressure from the Government.
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:06 pm
by smac
And when government funding is used for ongoing programs then the testing regime can be negotiated.
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:54 pm
by westozfalcon
So has Liberatore actually gone to court and pleaded guilty yet?
I would have thought the club would hold off administering any fine or suspension until that happens otherwise it could be prejudicial to his court appearance if he wanted to contest the charge.
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:02 pm
by heater31
westozfalcon wrote:So has Liberatore actually gone to court and pleaded guilty yet?
I would have thought the club would hold off administering any fine or suspension until that happens otherwise it could be prejudicial to his court appearance if he wanted to contest the charge.
Well they could argue that the suspension and fine has nothing to do with drugs. From the club's point of view he has been suspended for intoxication and being spoken to by the police bringing the club into disrepute...
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:24 pm
by Johno6
I thought they said he was drug tested and it came back positive
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:36 pm
by CUTTERMAN
Police laid no charges was what I heard
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:36 pm
by HH3
Pretty sure there were no charges laid by the police. He was cautioned. But since its public knowledge he was unconcious from alcohol and in possession of drugs, the club had to make a public stand.
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:07 am
by Lightning McQueen
Apparently he was catching up with some Cousins.
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:59 am
by stan
Lightning McQueen wrote:Apparently he was catching up with some Cousins.
Buddy was supposed to drive him home.
Re: Drugs in the AFL

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Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:01 am
by Footy Smart
I like the way the Bulldogs have handled this. The pentalies in place will emphasis the life he could have to lead if he makes another f*ck up. Working full time in a meaninginful job, not training with his AFL team mates and suspension long enough to prove a point. He now has 6 months to think about how lucky he is to have the opportunity to play AFL.