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State Of Origin

Posted:
Sat May 12, 2012 8:23 pm
by LaughingKookaburra
There is currently discussion currently in the media on the re-birth of State Of Origin. Realistically this will not be the case with so much money involved in todays game and the potential loss of players through injury in this game.
I would personally be annoyed if the AFL went down the same path as 2 years ago when they did Victoria v The All-Stars as I see it as a massive slap in the face for other states than Victoria (Especially WA & SA).
I'm not fussed if Victoria will smash others ect, but i'd like to hear others thoughts.....
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sat May 12, 2012 10:29 pm
by goraw
SA VS VIC absolutely. and im sure will have a lot of support.it has to be only those two though. if u come from another state, stiff sh!t. and play it once a year, mid season, maybe a double break in the season.
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sat May 12, 2012 10:43 pm
by LaughingKookaburra
See I would see that as just a bigger slap in the face to WA. In some fairness to your opinion WA crowds for SOO were not as well supported as games @ footy park or the mcg.
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sat May 12, 2012 10:57 pm
by sherminator
I would love to see it as I have very fond memories of watching State games as a kid. Of course this was pre-Crows so it was great to see the VFL players come home and my favourite players from the SANFL up against the Vics.
Whilst this would never happen, here is my proposal:
Rank all of the states from 1-7,
For example:
1- Vic
2- SA
3- WA
etc.
Make an eighth team from somewhere (the MAJOR drawback to my proposal). Perhaps some sort of combined side feaaturing Internationals, All-Australian U-18s, AIS or something like that.
On the one weekend we have 4 matches ... 1 vs 2, 3 vs 4 etc. that way every state is given a chance to play.
The winner of 1 vs 2 is crowned 'Champions of Australia' whilst the loser drops to 3rd. The winner of 3 vs 4 is then promoted as 'challengers' the following year.
Play these games every 2-3 years to add a bit of significance (ie World Cups, Olympics etc wouldn't be as significant if they were held annually) but not too far apart that if, say Tasmania, had a bunch of talented blokes come through they could hypothetically move up and challenge within their careers.
Also have an extended bench with perhaps 7-8 players to limit the workload and keep the clubs happy.
I reckon it would work.
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sat May 12, 2012 11:39 pm
by whufc
I wanna see an Indigenous side take the field, they would beat any side put on the park. Imgine a forward line off
F: Rioli Franklin Betts
HF: S.Hill Goodes S.Motlop
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 12:00 am
by Rik E Boy
Absolute waste of time. Eleven players from every state will miss the game from strained ovaries because the clubs won't risk them.
regards,
REB
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 12:07 am
by CoverKing
whufc wrote:I wanna see an Indigenous side take the field, they would beat any side put on the park. Imgine a forward line off
F: Rioli Franklin Betts
HF: S.Hill Goodes S.Motlop
Wouldn't get close to an all star side
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 12:14 am
by Strawb
here is how the Muppets running the AFL should work it all the 18 teams are split into three pods of 6 teams. First off you play everyone once and then you play the the teams in your pod for the second time. This will make it 22 rounds.
after round 12 you have two weeks off For State of Origin. Vic V. SA. V WA. forget the rest. The state teams play each other twice over the two weeks. It is easy to work out
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 10:35 am
by Dog_ger

Not interested.
Would you fill Footy Park or Adelaide Oval?
End of disscussion....

Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 10:39 am
by gadj1976
Waste of time IMO. No one will take it seriously enough, so why bother.
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 11:38 am
by LaughingKookaburra
Dog_ger wrote:;) Not interested.
Would you fill Footy Park or Adelaide Oval?
End of disscussion....

You'd fill footy park no hassles.
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 11:48 am
by gadj1976
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Dog_ger wrote:;) Not interested.
Would you fill Footy Park or Adelaide Oval?
End of disscussion....

You'd fill footy park no hassles.
ONLY if the players took it seriously. That's the biggest issue and determines whether it will succeed or not.
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 12:39 pm
by Tassie Blues
Must b round 7 time to wheel the dead horse out again to give the media something to talk about for a week.
State of origin died when the VFL went national we now get a state game every week move on an leave state footy where it belongs in the 80's
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 12:50 pm
by CUTTERMAN
I wouldn't mind if they had a State of Origin game but realistically the players have to drive this for it to happen. Personally I think SA should play WA at Footy Park, as soon as Victoria is involved it seems to turn into an Allies/Allstars crap. WA also started the whole thing in the first place. It doesn't always have to be about Victoria.
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 12:55 pm
by JK
The AFL could fix it I reckon, but of course it involves cost, so they won't.
Maybe it's as simple as $50k payment to each player in the team(s) .. Total cost $2.2mil
Between the gate and TV Rights to the game surely they could re-coup that money?
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 1:25 pm
by Jim05
JK wrote:The AFL could fix it I reckon, but of course it involves cost, so they won't.
Maybe it's as simple as $50k payment to each player in the team(s) .. Total cost $2.2mil
Between the gate and TV Rights to the game surely they could re-coup that money?
Reckon it would require more than that.
Personally if someone from my club got seriously hurt playing SOO id hope Essendon would sue the ass of the AFL.
Maybe if the AFL agreed to compensate clubs for hurt players in a monetary way and even with an extra draft pick for long term injuries then we might get somewhere.
I think it would still end up the EPL where the players just get a report to say they have general soreness to get them out of playing for their country. I know Manchester United has banned most of their players from competing in the Olympics
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 3:14 pm
by JK
Jim05 wrote:JK wrote:The AFL could fix it I reckon, but of course it involves cost, so they won't.
Maybe it's as simple as $50k payment to each player in the team(s) .. Total cost $2.2mil
Between the gate and TV Rights to the game surely they could re-coup that money?
Reckon it would require more than that.
Personally if someone from my club got seriously hurt playing SOO id hope Essendon would sue the ass of the AFL.
Maybe if the AFL agreed to compensate clubs for hurt players in a monetary way and even with an extra draft pick for long term injuries then we might get somewhere.
I think it would still end up the EPL where the players just get a report to say they have general soreness to get them out of playing for their country. I know Manchester United has banned most of their players from competing in the Olympics
Probably right, just trying to find a way around it .. IF there was good coin on offer then I'd think the players could get it written into their contracts to make them available.
I agree with you completely though on the injury scare, it's the same at SANFL level .. I'd be spewing if one of our boys copped a season ending injury playing for a club other than our own.
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 3:38 pm
by RustyCage
JK wrote:Jim05 wrote:JK wrote:The AFL could fix it I reckon, but of course it involves cost, so they won't.
Maybe it's as simple as $50k payment to each player in the team(s) .. Total cost $2.2mil
Between the gate and TV Rights to the game surely they could re-coup that money?
Reckon it would require more than that.
Personally if someone from my club got seriously hurt playing SOO id hope Essendon would sue the ass of the AFL.
Maybe if the AFL agreed to compensate clubs for hurt players in a monetary way and even with an extra draft pick for long term injuries then we might get somewhere.
I think it would still end up the EPL where the players just get a report to say they have general soreness to get them out of playing for their country. I know Manchester United has banned most of their players from competing in the Olympics
Probably right, just trying to find a way around it .. IF there was good coin on offer then I'd think the players could get it written into their contracts to make them available.
I agree with you completely though on the injury scare, it's the same at SANFL level .. I'd be spewing if one of our boys copped a season ending injury playing for a club other than our own.
Or like Stephen Eichner, career ending
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 3:41 pm
by GWW
SOO was great up til around the mid 90's, but I cant help but think that the concept has lost its relevance in today's footy world.
Re: State Of Origin

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2012 5:16 pm
by JK
pafc1870 wrote:JK wrote:Jim05 wrote:JK wrote:The AFL could fix it I reckon, but of course it involves cost, so they won't.
Maybe it's as simple as $50k payment to each player in the team(s) .. Total cost $2.2mil
Between the gate and TV Rights to the game surely they could re-coup that money?
Reckon it would require more than that.
Personally if someone from my club got seriously hurt playing SOO id hope Essendon would sue the ass of the AFL.
Maybe if the AFL agreed to compensate clubs for hurt players in a monetary way and even with an extra draft pick for long term injuries then we might get somewhere.
I think it would still end up the EPL where the players just get a report to say they have general soreness to get them out of playing for their country. I know Manchester United has banned most of their players from competing in the Olympics
Probably right, just trying to find a way around it .. IF there was good coin on offer then I'd think the players could get it written into their contracts to make them available.
I agree with you completely though on the injury scare, it's the same at SANFL level .. I'd be spewing if one of our boys copped a season ending injury playing for a club other than our own.
Or like Stephen Eichner, career ending
Yep, thats a football tragedy
