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Which AFL coaches won't see out the year?

Postby Media Park » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:52 pm

It's that time of year, who will be the first to go? Will the caretakers stay on?

Adelaide: Neil Craig (in trouble)
Brisbane: Michael Voss (maybe)
Richmond: Damien Hardwick (maybe)
Melbourne: Dean Bailey (maybe)
Port: Matthew Primus (maybe)
Bulldogs: Rocket Eade (in trouble)

Might have missed someone but who's going first?
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby GWW » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:55 pm

I think Primus has a 3 year contract so he won't go (personally as a Port supporter I disagreed with his 3 year contract but thats another story)

Of those listed, i think Bailey, Craig and Eade are in a bit of trouble, and all are a good chance to not be coaching their current club next year. Craig is probably most likely to be gone, Bailey probably most likely to retain his job of the 3 i listed.
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby Groover » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:01 pm

GWW wrote:I think Primus has a 3 year contract so he won't go (personally as a Port supporter I disagreed with his 3 year contract but thats another story)

Of those listed, i think Bailey, Craig and Eade are in a bit of trouble, and all are a good chance to not be coaching their current club next year. Craig is probably most likely to be gone, Bailey probably most likely to retain his job of the 3 i listed.


From what I have seen of Bailey this year, I think he will retain his job. Finally the list he has sacrificed a few years for is coming along nicely! Will be a shame to see his efforts in the last couple years taken from him before the dees start making some big in roads. They may not make finals this year, but next year I see some big improvement (as long as we can keep the main core of kids).
If The dees can win 1 of the next 4 (unlikely) and then the last 3 (very likely) I see his job as safe.
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby Dirko » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:05 pm

IN LADDER ORDER;

Collingwood - Will have Bucks next year
Geelong - Chris Scott. Will be there.
Hawthorn - Alistair Clarkson, out of contract, relationship between him & Kennett could sour and he's not given a renewal, and ends up at the Crows.
Carlton - Ratten needs to win a final IMO, otherwise Malthouse may knock on the door
West Coast - Woosha appears safe after another resurgence.
Fremantle - Next year will be the last for Harvey unless he pulls a Premiership out of his arse.
Essendon - The Golden Child will be there.
Sydney - Longmire is safe
Melbourne - Bailey is 50/50 IMO, needs the Dees to hang strong, otherwise it's adios
St Kilda - Lyon would be safe
North Melbourne - Scott would be safe
Western Bulldogs - Eade is under pressure, if the Dogs don't make the finals then its adios
Richmond - Hardwick is safe
Adelaide - Unfortunately Craig is gawnski
Brisbane - Voss will stay
Gold Coast - McKenna is all good
Port Adelaide - Primus is safe
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby overloaded » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:13 pm

Heard from a very reliable inside source a couple of weeks ago that Rodney Eade is gone - apparently lost the support and respect of the playing group
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby Baron Greenback » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:36 pm

SJABC wrote:IN LADDER ORDER;

Collingwood - Will have Bucks next year
Geelong - Chris Scott. Will be there.
Hawthorn - Alistair Clarkson, out of contract, relationship between him & Kennett could sour and he's not given a renewal, and ends up at the Crows.
Carlton - Ratten needs to win a final IMO, otherwise Malthouse may knock on the door
West Coast - Woosha appears safe after another resurgence.
Fremantle - Next year will be the last for Harvey unless he pulls a Premiership out of his arse.
Essendon - The Golden Child will be there.
Sydney - Longmire is safe
Melbourne - Bailey is 50/50 IMO, needs the Dees to hang strong, otherwise it's adios
St Kilda - Lyon would be safe
North Melbourne - Scott would be safe
Western Bulldogs - Eade is under pressure, if the Dogs don't make the finals then its adios
Richmond - Hardwick is safe
Adelaide - Unfortunately Craig is gawnski
Brisbane - Voss will stay
Gold Coast - McKenna is all good
Port Adelaide - Primus is safe


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Re: Chopping Block

Postby valleys07 » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:40 pm

SJABC wrote:Adelaide - Unfortunately Craig is gawnski


Thats the one to keep an eye on over the off season. The only coach IMO that has the realistic possibility to get the sack. Eade i think is safe for 1 more season.
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby JK » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:47 pm

valleys07 wrote:
SJABC wrote:Adelaide - Unfortunately Craig is gawnski


Thats the one to keep an eye on over the off season. The only coach IMO that has the realistic possibility to get the sack. Eade i think is safe for 1 more season.


I reckon Bailey's seat isn't safe .. TBH I don't think he's done a helluva lot wrong, but unless they finish very impressively I think there's a few behind the scenes pushing for a replacement.
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby valleys07 » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:56 pm

Disagree there JK, Melbourne are crud against the top 3-4 sides as they just dont have that power forward(s) and a defence that isnt quite mature. Melbourne would be silly to toss Bailey on the scrap heap without giving him the opportunity to showcase what he can do with a list growing in potential.
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:01 pm

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Re: Chopping Block

Postby JK » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:04 pm

valleys07 wrote:Disagree there JK, Melbourne are crud against the top 3-4 sides as they just dont have that power forward(s) and a defence that isnt quite mature. Melbourne would be silly to toss Bailey on the scrap heap without giving him the opportunity to showcase what he can do with a list growing in potential.


I didn't say he should be going mate .. All I was suggesting is that I get the distinct impression that some influential Melbourne people behind the scenes were wanting to replace him a while back, so I think the wolves at are his door and how they see out the season might well decide his fate.
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby valleys07 » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:11 pm

JK wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Disagree there JK, Melbourne are crud against the top 3-4 sides as they just dont have that power forward(s) and a defence that isnt quite mature. Melbourne would be silly to toss Bailey on the scrap heap without giving him the opportunity to showcase what he can do with a list growing in potential.


I didn't say he should be going mate .. All I was suggesting is that I get the distinct impression that some influential Melbourne people behind the scenes were wanting to replace him a while back, so I think the wolves at are his door and how they see out the season might well decide his fate.


Yeah it will definately be interesting to see if melbourne decide to pursue malthouse, roos etc. I know you didn't say he should be going, my response was merely directed at the belief I see him safe beyond 2011.
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby Booney » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:23 pm

I'd say Eade is gone too.

The Bulldogs made the most of their chances in the last three years and despite not winning a flag have had some good times. I'd doubt Eade has the 4-5 years in him required to get this group back to the top and it will be time for a change there.
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby Media Park » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:25 pm

overloaded wrote:Heard from a very reliable inside source a couple of weeks ago that Rodney Eade is gone - apparently lost the support and respect of the playing group


A few of the things you've put on this site recently make me sceptical, bro.
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby Gingernuts » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:29 pm

My take on the Adelaide situation is that they have already made a play behind the scenes for Clarkson.

If they secure him then Craig is gone. If they don't then Craig is safe - with some serious restructuring of assistants.

They may have made a play at Malthouse also, but I can see him relocating away from grandkids etc to come and coach Adelaide.
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Re: Chopping Block

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:38 pm

Groover wrote:From what I have seen of Bailey this year, I think he will retain his job. Finally the list he has sacrificed a few years for is coming along nicely! Will be a shame to see his efforts in the last couple years taken from him before the dees start making some big in roads. They may not make finals this year, but next year I see some big improvement (as long as we can keep the main core of kids).
If The dees can win 1 of the next 4 (unlikely) and then the last 3 (very likely) I see his job as safe.


From what I've seen of Bailey this year I reckon he's in deep 5hit. Melbourne STILL can't play against the press and they still can't win at Ethihad. That doesn't leave much to hang your hat on. If they can't make the finals with this year's piss easy draw then they are no chance next year. If the Dees make the finals this year it will be the worst thing to happen to the club because Bailey will be reappointed and he is a dud coach.

Fancy not coming up with a game plan that is resistant to the press two whole seasons after St Kilda first unveiled it! Melbourne's list is fine but they need a real coach. If Melbourne are lucky they'll finish ninth, avoid an embarrassing pantsing in September and get in a coach who has a clue.

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Re: Chopping Block

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:40 pm

Gingernuts wrote:My take on the Adelaide situation is that they have already made a play behind the scenes for Clarkson.

If they secure him then Craig is gone. If they don't then Craig is safe - with some serious restructuring of assistants.

They may have made a play at Malthouse also, but I can see him relocating away from grandkids etc to come and coach Adelaide.


My take on the Adelaide situation is that they are going to resurrect Jim Henson because they are an absolute pack of muppets.

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Re: Chopping Block

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:43 pm

valleys07 wrote:Disagree there JK, Melbourne are crud against the top 3-4 sides as they just dont have that power forward(s) and a defence that isnt quite mature. Melbourne would be silly to toss Bailey on the scrap heap without giving him the opportunity to showcase what he can do with a list growing in potential.


Bollocks. Martin in the ruck, Jamar up forward. Watts getting stronger every year. Howe already ahead of Miller. His gameplan is 5hite and continued mediocrity awaits the Demons if they reappoint this bloke. The press is in it's third season and still Bailey hasn't a clue about how to counter it. Their matches against 'press teams' Collingwood, Carlton, West Coast and St Kilda this year are an embarrassment to AFL football. He hasn't got a clue.

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Re: Chopping Block

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:45 pm

Just one more thing. If the Hawks get rid of Clarko they've got rocks in their head. I can't stand the little runt but the guy can coach. He killed the shark in 2008 and has shown in the injury plagued seasons that he DOES have a plan B. No wonder the Cows are keen.

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Re: Chopping Block

Postby Gingernuts » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:55 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Just one more thing. If the Hawks get rid of Clarko they've got rocks in their head. I can't stand the little runt but the guy can coach. He killed the shark in 2008 and has shown in the injury plagued seasons that he DOES have a plan B. No wonder the Cows are keen.

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Agree. As much as I would love it if Adelaide could snare him, I think he's only using us to inflate his contract with the Hawks.
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