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Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:27 pm
by Baron Greenback
Is it just me, or is he really struggling at the moment?
Has made quite a few blunders in the past few rounds.
Might be worth dropping back to SANFL if Craigy has the balls.
Richard Douglas is another.
Good to see Petrenko have a real crack on the weekend, because he's another I haven't rated in the past.
Re: NATHAN VAN BERLO

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:34 pm
by Gingernuts
A tough one, because I reckon sometimes his 'blues' come when he's trying to back himself and create something (ie holding the ball trying to run it out of defence).
Petrenko could be labelled similar. Many people see him getting done holding the ball or turning it over because he's at full tilt trying to break a chase, and call him a dud. I see a young fella trying to break the lines and create something while his team mates navel gaze.
Back to VB - there's been a lot of critism of him as captain, but I'm optimistic he'll still rise to the occasion though. Half a season in the top job does not maketh the captain, he will develop as the side does. I don't think anyone would want his job at the moment anyway.
Re: NATHAN VAN BERLO

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:42 pm
by Booney
Would he be in the side if he wasn't captain?
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:45 pm
by whufc
Worse captain in the AFL, maybe even in the history of the AFL.
Would struggle to get a game at any of the current top 8 sides and definatly wouldnt get a game in any of the top 4.
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:52 pm
by D14
whufc wrote:Worse captain in the AFL, maybe even in the history of the AFL.
Would struggle to get a game at any of the current top 8 sides and definatly wouldnt get a game in any of the top 4.
I'm sorry but Maxwell is hardly a gun and he is captain of one of the top sides over the last few years. IMO he would not be in the top 15 players at Collingwood.
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:55 pm
by Gingernuts
whufc wrote:Worse captain in the AFL, maybe even in the history of the AFL.
Would struggle to get a game at any of the current top 8 sides and definatly wouldnt get a game in any of the top 4.
Don't hold back whufc! The poor bastard, 6 months in the job and he's the worst captain in history.
Captaincy is not just about what happens on the field. The players must've voted for him for a reason.
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:55 pm
by Rik E Boy
Sack the coach. Drop the captain. Drop this guy drop that guy. If you gave everyone who wasn't performing at the Crows the arse they'd have to forfeit the season. If you haven't got anyone better then you might as well work with what you have and see who wants to make a stand and make the decision(s) at the end of the year with a view to moving forward.
regards,
REB
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:58 pm
by Gingernuts
Wouldn't mind seeing a few number 19's dropped TBH, there's a fair few of them underperforming at the moment.

Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:04 pm
by Baron Greenback
D14 wrote:whufc wrote:Worse captain in the AFL, maybe even in the history of the AFL.
Would struggle to get a game at any of the current top 8 sides and definatly wouldnt get a game in any of the top 4.
I'm sorry but Maxwell is hardly a gun and he is captain of one of the top sides over the last few years. IMO he would not be in the top 15 players at Collingwood.
Agreed. Maxwell's not that great, but he's probably doing enough to hold his spot in the top side.
Van Berlo probably isn't in a side that has won 3 games.
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:17 pm
by D14
Baron Greenback wrote:D14 wrote:whufc wrote:Worse captain in the AFL, maybe even in the history of the AFL.
Would struggle to get a game at any of the current top 8 sides and definatly wouldnt get a game in any of the top 4.
I'm sorry but Maxwell is hardly a gun and he is captain of one of the top sides over the last few years. IMO he would not be in the top 15 players at Collingwood.
Agreed. Maxwell's not that great, but he's probably doing enough to hold his spot in the top side.
Van Berlo probably isn't in a side that has won 3 games.
Yeah your probably right.
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:04 pm
by RustyCage
Baron Greenback wrote:D14 wrote:whufc wrote:Worse captain in the AFL, maybe even in the history of the AFL.
Would struggle to get a game at any of the current top 8 sides and definatly wouldnt get a game in any of the top 4.
I'm sorry but Maxwell is hardly a gun and he is captain of one of the top sides over the last few years. IMO he would not be in the top 15 players at Collingwood.
Agreed. Maxwell's not that great, but he's probably doing enough to hold his spot in the top side.
Van Berlo probably isn't in a side that has won 3 games.
Who is currenty out of the team that would come in and do a better job?
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:59 pm
by Bum Crack
He is a terrible player, let alone captain. Surely Thompson would have been a better option. Sums the Crows up really. They have duds in their senior positions.
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:03 pm
by JK
Very, very ordinary footballer ... Good athlete though lol
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:25 pm
by scoob
Maxwell may not be the best footballer in the side, but always puts in 100% and rarely gets beaten in a 50/50 - as opposed to VB who consistently gets beaten in 50/50 and goes missing for large periods and doesn't exactly lead from the front.
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:52 pm
by The Sleeping Giant
JK wrote:Very, very ordinary footballer ... Good athlete though lol
Someone's hacked into CP's account.

Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:19 pm
by Media Park
scoob wrote:Maxwell may not be the best footballer in the side, but always puts in 100% and rarely gets beaten in a 50/50 - as opposed to VB who consistently gets beaten in 50/50 and goes missing for large periods and doesn't exactly lead from the front.
I shudder, but compare Maxwell with Tom Harley.
Sorry REB
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:45 pm
by stun72
Gingernuts wrote:whufc wrote:Worse captain in the AFL, maybe even in the history of the AFL.
Would struggle to get a game at any of the current top 8 sides and definatly wouldnt get a game in any of the top 4.
Don't hold back whufc! The poor bastard, 6 months in the job and he's the worst captain in history.
Captaincy is not just about what happens on the field. The players must've voted for him for a reason.
They voted for him because there wasn't too many other options.
Re: Nathan van Berlo

Posted:
Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:59 pm
by teaoby
Media Park wrote:scoob wrote:Maxwell may not be the best footballer in the side, but always puts in 100% and rarely gets beaten in a 50/50 - as opposed to VB who consistently gets beaten in 50/50 and goes missing for large periods and doesn't exactly lead from the front.
I shudder, but compare Maxwell with Tom Harley.
Sorry REB
Tommy was a super player in an amazing team/backline rate him a lot higher then i do maxwell. but in saying that maxwell does his job and is certainly 100% at the footy.
if teams made him man up they might exploit him!?
on VB he purely just isnt that good! and gets knocked off the ball very easily. look at all elite midfeilders they have big strong bottom half's but can still run all day. VB can run all day but is like a toothpick compeared to the elite guys.
i have heard that his apointment has frayed the friendship between him and Vince (they lived together) so 2 downsides shit captain and one of their better players has gone missing