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Sitting through a game of AFL

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:51 pm
by spell_check
I am in the process of doing so and I am getting that feeling of frustration and disappointment of yet another game of what is supposed to be the best standard of Aussie Rules in the world being ruined by ugly tactics.

Sure I can hear people say 'if you don't like it, don't watch it' but I wouldn't mind seeing Roo play his 300th game. But gee whiz, why on earth do people rate the AFL so highly over the SANFL is baffling at times.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:14 pm
by RustyCage
More skillful players, higher skill level, more atmosphere at matches, much faster game, fitter players.

The Cows are so much better than everyone else at the minute, teams need to do that possession style not to get completely blown out of the water. Other games are better to watch.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:42 pm
by spell_check
pafc1870 wrote:More skillful players, higher skill level, more atmosphere at matches, much faster game, fitter players.

The Cows are so much better than everyone else at the minute, teams need to do that possession style not to get completely blown out of the water. Other games are better to watch.


Teams that don't get blown out of the water don't learn much from the game at all.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:58 pm
by am Bays
My theory is that for the vast majority of us we only see SANFL footy "live" at the ground where we can see everything that is happening, forward and defensive line set ups, who is doing what, off the ball stuff, crowd reactions, banter, beers with blokes you know etc. Where as most of watch AFL on TV where you watch what a director in and OB van wants you to watch and you don't get to see everything, and you watch it with "her indoors" who would rather watch teh movie on the other channel :roll: :roll: .

For example I got to see last weeks game in Melbourne on Fri night which while still not a great game of footy it was enjoyable to be there with blokes I knew, a few beers and got to see the whole ground and appreciated the tactics involved. If I was home watching it I would have turned it over halfway through teh 1st half and listened to partyMAX while posting inane thoughts on this site :wink: .......

It is the live factor of SANFL footy that makes it great compared to the sterile environment of AFL in the lounge room....

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:07 am
by spell_check
That is one thing where SANFL rules over the AFL indefinitely - the live match. I've long thought the SANFL match you see on TV does no justice to the actual game being played. It appears faster when you see it live; hardly any difference to the AFL; you can get closer to the match; better atmosphere when a fair sized crowd is there and is far greater value.

Pafc - "More skillful players, higher skill level, more atmosphere at matches, much faster game, fitter players." If this is true then people are being seriously overpriced to watch a game of AFL.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:15 am
by heater31
Yep Tassie I agree, I find that a game of footy is more enjoyable to watch live at the ground rather than on the box as you say i see watch what I want to see ie match ups, structures etc. its even better watching SANFL footy as you can get closer to action and appreciate the game more (and less people :wink: ) as Robin Williams puts in his Live on Broadway DVD the AFL (NFL in his case) has too much 'Commerical time' and dont the f**kwits in Dermie, Commeti et al, know it with some of the shite the feed us on the telly.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:58 pm
by Dutchy
Went to the game Friday night and it was interesting wacthing the crows tactics across the full ground. Now everyone was having a go at Laidley for his chipping tactics but who made them do this???? CROWS! they had their whole 18 players in the Roos forward 50 everytime...Dont blame the Roos blame the Crows, if they opened up the game it would have been more appealing

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:44 pm
by mal
Dutchy wrote:Went to the game Friday night and it was interesting wacthing the crows tactics across the full ground. Now everyone was having a go at Laidley for his chipping tactics but who made them do this???? CROWS! they had their whole 18 players in the Roos forward 50 everytime...Dont blame the Roos blame the Crows, if they opened up the game it would have been more appealing



Whilst AC continues to win this will not be scrutinised DUTCHY.
In a couple years when our Champs all retire and we play
this scientific footy and lose the crowds will boo them and then and
only then your prophercies will be taken into context.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:53 pm
by giffo
After going to the Crows game with Ian on Friday night and then the Parade on Saturday with my lad & his mate , even with the Doggies loosing I enjoyed the SANFL more. AAMI seemed pretty quiet (Ian commented that last years GF was noisier) and there was no comments, just some morons showing how little they actually know. Or maybe it was just the fact I could stand in the sun whilst enjoying a Coopers & WATCHING THE GAME 8)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:09 pm
by drebin
Seriously TV distorts many sporting events and action is always "slower" on TV than it actually is live at the game. You also lose that atmosphere of being at a live game when watching on TV which heightens the experience in the main.

Motor racing is classic example of TV distorting or slowing down cars. You get a real idea when you are live at a motor racing event just how fast they actually go.

SANFL Football is certainly much better live than on TV as is the AFL. At least at the game you don't just see a portion of play as it happens you get to anticpate and watch the next (or hopefully) the next play phase unfold.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:04 am
by Aerie
Dutchy wrote:Went to the game Friday night and it was interesting watching the crows tactics across the full ground. Now everyone was having a go at Laidley for his chipping tactics but who made them do this???? CROWS! they had their whole 18 players in the Roos forward 50 everytime...Dont blame the Roos blame the Crows, if they opened up the game it would have been more appealing


Exactly right. Although this style is winning games I think the coaches have a responsibility to encourage an attacking brand of football and the AFL rules committee have a responsibility to preserve what is great about our game. I think almost all SANFL coaches encourage attacking football which makes it great to watch and I am glad the rules, or the way the umpires interpret them most of the time, have not gone the way of the AFL.

I went to the Crows/Kangaroos game on Friday night. Best thing about it was the fireworks.

If 48,000 people were there to watch the Eagles/Central game a fortnight ago or the Port/Eagles game a week ago and the media coverage was the same and each game had fireworks and all were neutral supporters and you asked did they prefer the SANFL game or the AFL game, I would be surprised if 40,000 didn't say they prefered the SANFL game.

The truth is that going to watch the Crows is not so much about the football as it is about the event, hype and atmosphere. I think I'll stick to watching the Crows on tv for the rest of the season. I can at least drift off to sleep during the boring bits.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:40 am
by Rik E Boy
You bunch of sooks. You barrack for the best team in the competition and all you can do is whinge about how crap the Roos played and that footy aint what it used to be. I'd give my left one to have the Cats in the Cows position and the last thing I would be worrying about is the bullshit tactics attempted by the clueless coach of the hopelessly outmanned opposition. I would be revelling in it.

You Crows fans are spoilt bloody rotten. You get to see your team play every week, you've got the best facilities, the best coach, have the most money, the most members and the best list. If you don't like AFL, then stick to the SANFL..vote with your feet. But if you are an AFL fan stop bloody whinging and just enjoy your success. If you hadn't lost to Richmond that time Laidley wouldn't have tried that shit in the first place.

End of Monday Morning Rant.

regards,

REB

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:14 am
by MatteeG
Rik E Boy wrote:You bunch of sooks. You barrack for the best team in the competition and all you can do is whinge about how crap the Roos played and that footy aint what it used to be. I'd give my left one to have the Cats in the Cows position and the last thing I would be worrying about is the bullshit tactics attempted by the clueless coach of the hopelessly outmanned opposition. I would be revelling in it.

You Crows fans are spoilt bloody rotten. You get to see your team play every week, you've got the best facilities, the best coach, have the most money, the most members and the best list. If you don't like AFL, then stick to the SANFL..vote with your feet. But if you are an AFL fan stop bloody whinging and just enjoy your success. If you hadn't lost to Richmond that time Laidley wouldn't have tried that shit in the first place.

End of Monday Morning Rant.

regards,

REB


GOLD

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:42 am
by am Bays
Rik E Boy wrote:You bunch of sooks. You barrack for the best team in the competition and all you can do is whinge about how crap the Roos played and that footy aint what it used to be. I'd give my left one to have the Cats in the Cows position and the last thing I would be worrying about is the bullshit tactics attempted by the clueless coach of the hopelessly outmanned opposition. I would be revelling in it.

You Crows fans are spoilt bloody rotten. You get to see your team play every week, you've got the best facilities, the best coach, have the most money, the most members and the best list. If you don't like AFL, then stick to the SANFL..vote with your feet. But if you are an AFL fan stop bloody whinging and just enjoy your success. If you hadn't lost to Richmond that time Laidley wouldn't have tried that shit in the first place.

End of Monday Morning Rant.

regards,

REB


Well we can't whinge about our players or coaches this year and we're sick of bagging the PAPs so we have to whinge about something..... :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:09 am
by MW
Dutchy wrote:Went to the game Friday night and it was interesting wacthing the crows tactics across the full ground. Now everyone was having a go at Laidley for his chipping tactics but who made them do this???? CROWS! they had their whole 18 players in the Roos forward 50 everytime...Dont blame the Roos blame the Crows, if they opened up the game it would have been more appealing


It was the Crows fault that North Melbourne played that way??? :shock: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:31 am
by Booney
I think Spelly is generalising here guy's and using the Cows V Roos game as an example,let's not turn this into a tri-coloured based argument.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:23 pm
by spell_check
Spot on Booney.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:38 pm
by Rik E Boy
I'll give you the Bulldogs v Cats game as an example of the direct opposite but then again it would be a tri-coloured arguement :wink:

regards,

REB