Trade Week 2010

[Gingernuts]

So folks,

Do we think it was a good one for Adelaide?

I think they did pretty well personally, I'm very happy with all the trades that have been done.

When you factor in where the playing squad is at in it's development, the addition of Tambling and Jacobs are good aquisitions that should fit quite nicely.

Looking forward to seeing how the Tambling trade turns out in particular, many people have tagged him as a 'spud' - but I think he will fit into Adelaide's structure very nicely.

Overall I think Matt Rendell has done a top job once again.

[Footy Smart]

Very Happy!

We added pace (quality pace at that) including X factor potential

We added a quality young ruckman

All while keeping or first draft pick and not giving up more than market price.

We dont need to add 18 year olds to our list so Rendell and the other have done very very well IMO

[Hondo]

Happy here too

I haven't been a critic or a fan of Tambling. If anything I have felt sorry for him with all the expectations. I think he is worth the punt and could be very exciting for us.

Jacobs wanted to come home and Griffin wanted out so those trades are fine with me.

All that and we keep pick 14

[JK]

Agree with all that's been said.

I don't think the Crows have done OUSTANDINGLY well out of the draft (bot who does manage that in this day and age?), but I think at worst they've treaded water, and at best have done very very well.

I've always thought Tambling could play just never been sure of the degree .. Somewhere between OK - very good has always been my assessment of him if he got out of Tigerland.

Time will tell I guess, but I think they are nicely in front.

One thing I find frustrating is that the AFC will often try to lure home any reasonable SA born and bread player, yet they overlook so many in the first place when drafting .. I understand the whole "pick the best player available" theme, but often if there's a player they rate 7/10 from interstate and a player they rate 6/10 based here already I think they should opt for the local player.

[OnSong]

Agree with all that's been said.

I don't think the Crows have done OUSTANDINGLY well out of the draft (bot who does manage that in this day and age?), but I think at worst they've treaded water, and at best have done very very well.

I've always thought Tambling could play just never been sure of the degree .. Somewhere between OK - very good has always been my assessment of him if he got out of Tigerland.

Time will tell I guess, but I think they are nicely in front.

One thing I find frustrating is that the AFC will often try to lure home any reasonable SA born and bread player, yet they overlook so many in the first place when drafting .. I understand the whole "pick the best player available" theme, but often if there's a player they rate 7/10 from interstate and a player they rate 6/10 based here already I think they should opt for the local player.

Such as Brad Ebert, Rhys Stanley, Sam Fisher etc....??

[JK]

Agree with all that's been said.

I don't think the Crows have done OUSTANDINGLY well out of the draft (bot who does manage that in this day and age?), but I think at worst they've treaded water, and at best have done very very well.

I've always thought Tambling could play just never been sure of the degree .. Somewhere between OK - very good has always been my assessment of him if he got out of Tigerland.

Time will tell I guess, but I think they are nicely in front.

One thing I find frustrating is that the AFC will often try to lure home any reasonable SA born and bread player, yet they overlook so many in the first place when drafting .. I understand the whole "pick the best player available" theme, but often if there's a player they rate 7/10 from interstate and a player they rate 6/10 based here already I think they should opt for the local player.

Such as Brad Ebert, Rhys Stanley, Sam Fisher etc....??

There's plenty of them over the years .. To be fair, in many instances they have probably chosen the better player so Im not trying to grill them.

I just think that for every time they try and lure someone home (a non-top 10 Draft pick excepted) or have been dismayed at one of their players wanting to return to home state, I scratch my head and think "well you always knew this situation was highly likely to occur".

[Hondo]

I recall Rendell saying once that if it's a 50-50 call they will pick the local player. But if there's an obviously better player available they get him regardless of where he is from. It's tough because the Victorian clubs pick the best player from anywhere and so by the time the Crows usually get a pick the best SA lads have gone. So they either throw up the white flag or get who they want.

They feel they have better systems these days to reduce the homesick factor and they do their homework on the player to make sure the risk of homesickness is minimised. Rory Sloane said on radio that his mates come over for games and stay with him for example.

It seems to have worked with Dangerfield, Otten, Sloane and Knights (off the top of my head). Port so far have managed to keep Gray, Boak and Salopek.

The Dangerfield v Ebert debate largely came down to this issue - pick the local lad over the Victorian who will then want to go home.

The 2 new teams could actually help this because it means there's now only a 10/18 chance a Victorian player will get to stay in his home state so the draftees will have their heads around the idea more beforehand.

[Aerie]

Always hard to judge straight away before seeing what players are picked up with the draft picks we give away. From a player point of view I think Jacobs is a slight upgrade on Griffin (as giving away a 2nd round pick would suggest), but don't see him as being a better player than Maric. Tambling is an unknown. He will need to improve significantly from what he was at Richmond - but you sense Neil Craig may be able to get the best out of him and he ticks some boxes in terms of player attributes that the Crows need.

[steakn]

I think Jacobs has been a bit of a steal just quietly, similar in ways to Sydneys much improved Mumford(just more opportunities). If he can play like he did in the final against sydney on a regular basis we could have our first really good ruckman since??? Clarke? if you rate him..

On Tamblings case, i always thought he was a hack, but i am very willing to give him a fair go

[Barto]

Good stuff by the Crows in letting Jono Griffin go. Was pretty desperate to get home.

[Gingernuts]

Jacobs seemed super pumped to be a Crow last night on the news. Good to see.

[JK]

One thing I hope the Crows can manage well, is the hype that comes attached with any recruit they bring in.

I know all players are professionals and should be able to get on with the job, but sometimes I think the media driven burden of expectation that get's placed on some shoulders when they land in Adelaide is far from ideal (similar to what Tambling was expected to do at Punt Rd).

[Pat Malone]

Crows improved their rucks IMO, a good result considering Griffin wanted to go home and Crows were good enough to facilitate this trade. Also targeted outside pace and Tambling is exactly that. I thought the crows had 3 draft picks to use but Channel 7 suggested they only have 2.

I have no problems in Adelaide drafting interstate players. Such has been the quantity of SA players going interstate in the last few years that the go home factor goes both ways. Matt Rendells ability to identify Dangerfield, Sloane and Ottens talents shouldnt be compromised by a want for local players. Adelaide has faith in its system to improve players and even if they cannot retain them, they should have an increased market value, ie Tyson Stenglein.

[Brodlach]

Crows improved their rucks IMO, a good result considering Griffin wanted to go home and Crows were good enough to facilitate this trade. Also targeted outside pace and Tambling is exactly that. I thought the crows had 3 draft picks to use but Channel 7 suggested they only have 2.

I have no problems in Adelaide drafting interstate players. Such has been the quantity of SA players going interstate in the last few years that the go home factor goes both ways. Matt Rendells ability to identify Dangerfield, Sloane and Ottens talents shouldnt be compromised by a want for local players. Adelaide has faith in its system to improve players and even if they cannot retain them, they should have an increased market value, ie Tyson Stenglein.

You would have to think that Steingleins football was nowhere near as good at the West Coast Eagles as it was at the Crows. Even Kane Johnson I dont think reached the same heights at Richmond as he did at Adelaide.

[Gingernuts]

One thing I hope the Crows can manage well, is the hype that comes attached with any recruit they bring in.

I know all players are professionals and should be able to get on with the job, but sometimes I think the media driven burden of expectation that get's placed on some shoulders when they land in Adelaide is far from ideal (similar to what Tambling was expected to do at Punt Rd).

A good point CP. I get the impression that Adelaide is pretty reasonable at looking after it's players though.

Personally I don't believe Jacobs will be a walk up start next year. I think Maric has cemented his spon in the line up with this years efforts, but McKernan/Sellar/Moran will all be busting their chops this pre-season to make sure Jacobs doesn't jump the queue for spot number 2.

Some good healthy competition in the ruck stocks next year barring injury.

[JK]

I have no problems in Adelaide drafting interstate players. Such has been the quantity of SA players going interstate in the last few years that the go home factor goes both ways. Matt Rendells ability to identify Dangerfield, Sloane and Ottens talents shouldnt be compromised by a want for local players.

This is very true, and Im certainly not arguing with the quality of player they have recruited .. Throw Tippett, Walker, Mackay etc into that mix and they have identified and secured some real talent.

I guess my point should be directed at ALL clubs and not just Adelaide, that complain at losing players to the "go home" factor when they know it's always a potential risk in the first place.

Anyway, that's getting of the beaten track, still think the Crows have come out of this well placed and worst case - should it all turn to poo, I don't think they would really be any worse off for these movements ... Best Case however, could see them markedly better off and for quite some time.

[JK]

One thing I hope the Crows can manage well, is the hype that comes attached with any recruit they bring in.

I know all players are professionals and should be able to get on with the job, but sometimes I think the media driven burden of expectation that get's placed on some shoulders when they land in Adelaide is far from ideal (similar to what Tambling was expected to do at Punt Rd).

A good point CP. I get the impression that Adelaide is pretty reasonable at looking after it's players though.

Personally I don't believe Jacobs will be a walk up start next year. I think Maric has cemented his spon in the line up with this years efforts, but McKernan/Sellar/Moran will all be busting their chops this pre-season to make sure Jacobs doesn't jump the queue for spot number 2.

Some good healthy competition in the ruck stocks next year barring injury.

Completely agree mate, in fact I think it's critical to an environment being conducive to players producing their best, that there is strong competition for spots and not walk up starts.

[Psyber]

I think Tambling may turn out to be a good trade given that the Crows intend him to be an outside pacy receiver, and won't be trying to make anything else of him.
I also think he will benefit from Adelaide's generally sound, controlled, and professional culture.

[D14]

One thing I hope the Crows can manage well, is the hype that comes attached with any recruit they bring in.

I know all players are professionals and should be able to get on with the job, but sometimes I think the media driven burden of expectation that get's placed on some shoulders when they land in Adelaide is far from ideal (similar to what Tambling was expected to do at Punt Rd).

A good point CP. I get the impression that Adelaide is pretty reasonable at looking after it's players though.

Personally I don't believe Jacobs will be a walk up start next year. I think Maric has cemented his spon in the line up with this years efforts, but McKernan/Sellar/Moran will all be busting their chops this pre-season to make sure Jacobs doesn't jump the queue for spot number 2.

Some good healthy competition in the ruck stocks next year barring injury.

Completely agree mate, in fact I think it's critical to an environment being conducive to players producing their best, that there is strong competition for spots and not walk up starts.

My only issue is that I would like to see McKernan given a greater opportunity to play next eason and adding Jacobs to the mix may limit this. Also the fact that the interchange is being reduced to 3 and a sub could cause problems for ruck opportunities.

[JK]

Would McKernan be suitable (or groomable) for a KP role?