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Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Posted:
Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:23 pm
by Rik E Boy
Can Port possibly move forward with Mark Williams in charge? While he has done great things in his career and he has forgotten more about football than I ever knew perhaps a move would benefit both parties. Sheedy raves about Choco so maybe he should go Greater West young man.
As for the Power, how long can the Portonians persist with Williams methodology? After watching Port's effort against Richmond in the slosh it is debatable that Mark still follows what I understand to be Williams methodology...
POWER AT THE BODY AND THE BALL
KICK IT DOWN THE GUTS
IF THE OTHER BLOKE WANTS IT MORE THAN YOU HE GETS IT
..now in the wet like last week surely the great Fos would have engineered a victory not only against Richmond but in all probablity Geelong or St Kilda as well but Port tried to play pretty football.
Now obviously the Williams methodology is more complex than that but to this outsider it was the simplicity of it that made it so effective against teams like Glenelg and Norwood over the years with thier high possession (or at the very least less direct) game plans. Why is Choco turning Port into Glenelg and Norwood?
I'm no Portionian (hey, say hello to Captain Obvious!) but surely Choco's time is up. Now don't come on here and say 'who is better?' because right now you could almost say anybody and it wouldn't rank as a glib comment.
Seriously, When will Choco get the arse?
regards,
REB
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Posted:
Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:27 pm
by Q.
Fair dinkum REB, how many games did you ever play, I reckon you should have a look in the mirror.
Regards,
Q
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

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Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:33 pm
by Rik E Boy
Quichey wrote:Fair dinkum REB, how many games did you ever play, I reckon you should have a look in the mirror.
Regards,
Q
LOL Nice. But I was talking about sacking A coach, not sacking THE coach. I haven't posted that one for four years!
regards,
REB
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

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Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:35 pm
by White Line Fever
Quichey wrote:Fair dinkum REB, how many games did you ever play, I reckon you should have a look in the mirror.
Regards,
Q

Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Posted:
Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:14 pm
by Wedgie
I hope he stays at the Power forever!

Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

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Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:18 pm
by Drop Bear
The 3 Rs...
Reading?
Writing?
Arithmetic?
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Posted:
Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:50 pm
by jackpot jim
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Posted:
Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:32 pm
by Booney
The bloke doesn't have the cattle he did on 01-04 so tough to judge him on 09/10.
I'll respond in more detail when I can.
*Edit*
Williams has built a reputation in top level football that will see him coach again at senior level at another club. I was all for Williams being told to move on mid-2009 but I am glad he wasn't as I dont think the club was in a sound position player wise ( we still aren't ) and we didn't need a full clean out ( aka Fremantle in the last 3 years ) and I dont think a rookie coach is the way to go when your list is not crying out for change.
Williams is good at developing youth but can be a divisive influence on groups at times. As he has done with players, administrators and fans over his time at Port Adelaide.
I think he will see us through to the end of 2011 and we will reasses from there. I think Port Adelaide is one club that hasn't been wrapped up in the whole "get a young coahc just out of the game" thing as most clubs looking to refresh their groups have been. North, Brisbane, Carlton etc.
I think Port could see no real value in replacing a premiership coach in charge of a mid-road team unless we could find someone who "fit in" much better than Williams has.
As with all good things,they must come to an end and I think Williams has one more year at Port, but what if there isn't anyone better on offer then?
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

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Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:43 pm
by Swooper16
Hard to argue with alot of that REB altho to pick you up on a couple of points
We did beat St Kilda in the wet a few weeks ago.
We won the 2004 Premiership with a very high possession based game plan.
The 2010 gameplan doesnt look a whole lot different to 2001-2004 except we just dont have the same quality players. We never adequately replaced Roger James, Josh Carr (yes i know we got him back but he isnt the same player) & Michael Wilson which is why it appears we get pushed around quite a bit.
Our 2008 & 2009 seasons were below par. If 2010 continues down this path (which unfortunately it appears it just might) then you would think his position would come very much into question.
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Posted:
Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:19 pm
by Rik E Boy
Another brilliant contribution.
regards,
REB
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Posted:
Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:20 pm
by Rik E Boy
Swooper16 wrote:Hard to argue with alot of that REB altho to pick you up on a couple of points
We did beat St Kilda in the wet a few weeks ago.
We won the 2004 Premiership with a very high possession based game plan.
The 2010 gameplan doesnt look a whole lot different to 2001-2004 except we just dont have the same quality players. We never adequately replaced Roger James, Josh Carr (yes i know we got him back but he isnt the same player) & Michael Wilson which is why it appears we get pushed around quite a bit.
Our 2008 & 2009 seasons were below par. If 2010 continues down this path (which unfortunately it appears it just might) then you would think his position would come very much into question.
You blokes love playing against the Saints. Last year is the one of the few that they were able to get one over on you.
regards,
REB
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

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Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:49 pm
by Dog_ger
Mark will coach the Power until he Dies.
Get Used to it.
He is the best man for the job.
Rule # 1. Agree with the Coach.
Rule # 2. When you think the coach is wrong. Refer to Rule # 1.
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

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Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:32 pm
by Media Park
Rik E Boy wrote:Another brilliant contribution.
regards,
REB
Choco's gotta go, isn't that why they brought in Laidley?
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

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Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:03 pm
by auto
Fair call REB. Ive always been a Choco fan but as they say in UFC "its tiiiimmme".
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Posted:
Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:19 pm
by NO-MERCY
They havn't got the money to pay him out.
Once again egg on the faces of the board.

Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Posted:
Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:01 am
by Punk Rooster
I think you've named the wrong SA based coach in this thread REB...
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

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Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:14 pm
by Psyber
I reckon the Power may have won a couple more premierships if the administration had listened to the sponsor in 2003, and got someone who would weed out a few front runners and revise the game plan...
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

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Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:21 pm
by Booney
Psyber wrote:I reckon the Power may have won a couple more premierships if the administration had listened to the sponsor in 2003, and got someone who would weed out a few front runners and revise the game plan...
Sponsor said "Port will never win a premiership under Mark Williams". Alan Scott, was wrong.
Revise the game plan,hmmm? So how does the game plan of one side differ to any other in the modern game, for that matter at any point during the history of the game?
Most sides play a very similar style, some have the playing group to execute the style and some dont.
Front runners,hmmm. So in 2001/2/3/4 when we were top or thereabouts who would be the "frontrunners" then? Like most sides when on top of the table you have what could be termed frontrunners, they are in front more often than not afterall.
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

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Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:27 pm
by Choccies
Keep Choco forever.
Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

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Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:33 pm
by Q.
Booney wrote:Psyber wrote:I reckon the Power may have won a couple more premierships if the administration had listened to the sponsor in 2003, and got someone who would weed out a few front runners and revise the game plan...
Sponsor said "Port will never win a premiership under Mark Williams". Alan Scott, was wrong.
Revise the game plan,hmmm? So how does the game plan of one side differ to any other in the modern game, for that matter at any point during the history of the game?
Most sides play a very similar style, some have the playing group to execute the style and some dont.
Front runners,hmmm. So in 2001/2/3/4 when we were top or thereabouts who would be the "frontrunners" then? Like most sides when on top of the table you have what could be termed frontrunners, they are in front more often than not afterall.
They've altered the game plan this year, and for the better.
Only problem is your forward line, no potency or strong leading targets at the moment.