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The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:15 pm
by Gozu
Greatest footballer I've ever seen but it seems like he's really lost the plot now.

"If you don't hold my beliefs you have "no real purpose, value or destiny":

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2 ... r-destiny/

Link to the original article:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/what-k ... 5845501207

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:29 pm
by Q.
I don't know what's worse, that the cocaine has actually rotted his brain that much or that we have newspapers that publish that kind of backwards bullshit.

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:40 am
by Barto
Lunatic.

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:57 am
by Wedgie
I'm just glad GAJs Mum was the one that brought him up. Snr was probably the best footballers Ive ever seen but he's obviously missing a few bolts upstairs.

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:23 am
by Booney
I'll try and find the link to the Herald Sun article I read in a deli the other day. Was very strange.

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:38 am
by Rik E Boy
What the Cocaine started, the Good book finished.

regards,

REB

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:16 am
by Gingernuts
I read the first half of the article and was thinking 'this isn't too bad, just a bloke trying to get his point across'.

Then he started talking about peanut butter.

:lol:

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:18 am
by devilsadvocate
This is the link to the Herald Sun article:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/what-kind-of-world-do-we-want-to-live-in/story-e6frf7jo-1225845501207

I agree with most of what he's said there. This nation was founded on Christian belief, but has departed about as far from those values as is possible. And his comments RE: what we see today in the news:

"full of shocking and horrible crimes, detailing a very serious decline in morals and values in our community. We read stories that describe a rapid deterioration in standards of behaviour wherever we look. Our culture struggles under the massive weight of increasing problems associated with hatred, anger, violence, alcohol and drug abuse, depression and suicide, family breakdown, the devaluing of human life and dignity, and a growing disrespect for law and order, to name just a few - all of which work together to create and subsequently feed an enormous and expanding hole in the moral fabric that once upon a time held our society firmly together"

He's spot on IMO.

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:44 am
by Dogwatcher
I recently read a wonderful photographical autobiography of Gazza.
The early parts were good but as the book wore on, the religious influence became more prominent.
By the time the book was completed, two of the final chapters were totally on his religious beliefs full of tripe like that.
Was a disappointing way to end the book. It was almost as if Gazza had said: "I will do this book for you but you must allow me to share the word of the Lord, or it's no deal".

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:23 pm
by Mr66
devilsadvocate wrote:This is the link to the Herald Sun article:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/what-kind-of-world-do-we-want-to-live-in/story-e6frf7jo-1225845501207

I agree with most of what he's said there. This nation was founded on Christian belief, but has departed about as far from those values as is possible. And his comments RE: what we see today in the news:

"full of shocking and horrible crimes, detailing a very serious decline in morals and values in our community. We read stories that describe a rapid deterioration in standards of behaviour wherever we look. Our culture struggles under the massive weight of increasing problems associated with hatred, anger, violence, alcohol and drug abuse, depression and suicide, family breakdown, the devaluing of human life and dignity, and a growing disrespect for law and order, to name just a few - all of which work together to create and subsequently feed an enormous and expanding hole in the moral fabric that once upon a time held our society firmly together"

He's spot on IMO.


I'm sure the family and friends of Alisha Horan would concur. :roll:

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:20 pm
by MatteeG
Mr66 wrote:
devilsadvocate wrote:This is the link to the Herald Sun article:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/what-kind-of-world-do-we-want-to-live-in/story-e6frf7jo-1225845501207

I agree with most of what he's said there. This nation was founded on Christian belief, but has departed about as far from those values as is possible. And his comments RE: what we see today in the news:

"full of shocking and horrible crimes, detailing a very serious decline in morals and values in our community. We read stories that describe a rapid deterioration in standards of behaviour wherever we look. Our culture struggles under the massive weight of increasing problems associated with hatred, anger, violence, alcohol and drug abuse, depression and suicide, family breakdown, the devaluing of human life and dignity, and a growing disrespect for law and order, to name just a few - all of which work together to create and subsequently feed an enormous and expanding hole in the moral fabric that once upon a time held our society firmly together"

He's spot on IMO.


I'm sure the family and friends of Alisha Horan would concur. :roll:

=D> =D> =D>

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:26 am
by Rik E Boy
Mr66 wrote:I'm sure the family and friends of Alisha Horan would concur. :roll:


Never felt the same about Gaz after that.

regards,

REB

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:43 am
by Barto
devilsadvocate wrote:This is the link to the Herald Sun article:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/what-kind-of-world-do-we-want-to-live-in/story-e6frf7jo-1225845501207

I agree with most of what he's said there. This nation was founded on Christian belief, but has departed about as far from those values as is possible. And his comments RE: what we see today in the news:

"full of shocking and horrible crimes, detailing a very serious decline in morals and values in our community. We read stories that describe a rapid deterioration in standards of behaviour wherever we look. Our culture struggles under the massive weight of increasing problems associated with hatred, anger, violence, alcohol and drug abuse, depression and suicide, family breakdown, the devaluing of human life and dignity, and a growing disrespect for law and order, to name just a few - all of which work together to create and subsequently feed an enormous and expanding hole in the moral fabric that once upon a time held our society firmly together"

He's spot on IMO.


That can be corrected without reference to a fictional character. Morals aren't exactly the domain of bible thumpers and as pointed out, Gaz is pretty hypocritical himself.

Too many christians equate being an atheist with decadence. You only get one shot at it and the only life after death is how people remember you. Kids can be taught morals, ethics and respect for other members of the community without being threatened with spending eternity in a boiling lake of fire. Faith is just making something up and believing in it.

If god etc were true we wouldn't have paedo priests and bible bashers who expect everyone to lead a pious life while taking drugs and leaving an overdosing girl to die in a room.

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:12 am
by devilsadvocate
Everyone makes mistakes. I bet Gaz thinks about his mistakes every day of his life and wishes he could turn back the clock and make things right.

We're not going to agree on the faith issue or about there being a God, so I'm not going to argue with you on that, but I applaud Gazza's open declaration of his faith.

I agree that you can teach kids morals, values, ethics and respect without being religious. (Personally I think you should be required to have a license to breed as it's far more dangerous for some people than driving a car :lol: ).

But to say that God isn't true because there are paedophile priests is way off the mark.

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:30 pm
by Strawb
Rik E Boy wrote:
Mr66 wrote:I'm sure the family and friends of Alisha Horan would concur. :roll:


Never felt the same about Gaz after that.

regards,

REB

I see it this way he lied to her on what the drug was but she didn't have to take them. We all have choices and if Gary Ablett jumped of a cliff doesn't mean I need to.


I recently read Playing God The Rise and Fall of Gary Ablett. interesting read and it didn't amaze me how many people came out and had an Ablett story or two.

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:39 pm
by JK
Mr66 wrote:
devilsadvocate wrote:This is the link to the Herald Sun article:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/what-kind-of-world-do-we-want-to-live-in/story-e6frf7jo-1225845501207

I agree with most of what he's said there. This nation was founded on Christian belief, but has departed about as far from those values as is possible. And his comments RE: what we see today in the news:

"full of shocking and horrible crimes, detailing a very serious decline in morals and values in our community. We read stories that describe a rapid deterioration in standards of behaviour wherever we look. Our culture struggles under the massive weight of increasing problems associated with hatred, anger, violence, alcohol and drug abuse, depression and suicide, family breakdown, the devaluing of human life and dignity, and a growing disrespect for law and order, to name just a few - all of which work together to create and subsequently feed an enormous and expanding hole in the moral fabric that once upon a time held our society firmly together"

He's spot on IMO.


I'm sure the family and friends of Alisha Horan would concur. :roll:


Im sure they would, doesn't detract from the essence of what he's said though .. He's not excluding himself as a member of the community he's just judged.

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:21 pm
by Mr66
Constance_Perm wrote:.. He's not excluding himself as a member of the community he's just judged.


Until the words "I'm sorry for my actions (or lack thereof) regarding Alisha and want to sincerely and humbly apologise to her family and friends", then he is.

I am always sceptical, and sick of, sanctimonious, religious fruitcakes lecturing the rest of humanity.

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:55 pm
by McAlmanac
Dumb as a box of hammers. Why does he get so much media oxygen?

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:31 am
by Barto
devilsadvocate wrote: (Personally I think you should be required to have a license to breed as it's far more dangerous for some people than driving a car :lol: )


That's something we can agree on.

Re: The sad demise of Gary Ablett

PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:32 am
by Barto
McAlmanac wrote:Dumb as a box of hammers. Why does he get so much media oxygen?


There's a joke in there about getting hammered but it's way too late.