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I present to you the next AFL superstar

Posted:
Mon May 11, 2009 10:15 am
by Dutchy
Jack Ziebell, if he doesnt get the rising star nom this week then its a disgrace
Archers toughness and Hirds skill and class all rolled into one
I have a NFC like man crush on the bloke....

Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

Posted:
Mon May 11, 2009 10:24 am
by JK
Big call with the Hird-Archer comparisons bud, but he does indeed look like a star in the making ... This weeks NAB call will be interesting given Walkers performance yesterday, but I'd expect Ziebell to earn the nod considering how close he must have been in other weeks.
Interesting that the commentators remarked about his lack of nomination yet he was 4th in betting for the award.
I actually think he'll win the Rising Star at season's end .. Rich got off to a good start, but he has some classier names around him and Ziebell already looks better than a few of the battlers at Arden St (with respect).
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 11:28 am
by Booney
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 am
by Hondo
I think Walker may pip Ziebell at the post this week
They seem to like to nominate them after a stand out performance, rather than reward several weeks of good performances
Not to worry tho Dutchy, they'll have him pencilled in to get a nomination at some stage
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

Posted:
Mon May 11, 2009 12:00 pm
by Dutchy
Season Averages
Walker - 9 Possies, 4 marks, 1 tackle
Ziebell - 18 possies, 5 marks, 3 tackles
And JZ is a year younger than Walker and hasnt had the benefit of a year in the SANFL
And JZ played in a winning team, surely that makes a huge difference also
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 12:02 pm
by JK
Dutchy wrote:Season Averages
Walker - 9 Possies, 4 marks, 1 tackle
Ziebell - 18 possies, 5 marks, 3 tackles
And JZ is a year younger than Walker and hasnt had the benefit of a year in the SANFL
And JZ played in a winning team, surely that makes a huge difference also
And JZ is a completely different type of player .. Being a ball player so he should get more of it, whats the goal tally between the 2?
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 12:07 pm
by Zorro
Constance_Perm wrote:Dutchy wrote:Season Averages
Walker - 9 Possies, 4 marks, 1 tackle
Ziebell - 18 possies, 5 marks, 3 tackles
And JZ is a year younger than Walker and hasnt had the benefit of a year in the SANFL
And JZ played in a winning team, surely that makes a huge difference also
And JZ is a completely different type of player .. Being a ball player so he should get more of it, whats the goal tally between the 2?
Hondo's comment is also valid, it's not about season averages but performance on a given weekend. Agree also you can't compare those two. Didn't see Ziebell's game on the weekend but Walker was one of the few things for Crow's fans to smile about yesterday. As onballers I'd expect Ziebell and Rich to fight out this year's award and wouldn't be surprised to see Walker in the top 5.
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 12:11 pm
by JK
Zorro wrote:Constance_Perm wrote:Dutchy wrote:Season Averages
Walker - 9 Possies, 4 marks, 1 tackle
Ziebell - 18 possies, 5 marks, 3 tackles
And JZ is a year younger than Walker and hasnt had the benefit of a year in the SANFL
And JZ played in a winning team, surely that makes a huge difference also
And JZ is a completely different type of player .. Being a ball player so he should get more of it, whats the goal tally between the 2?
Hondo's comment is also valid, it's not about season averages but performance on a given weekend. Agree also you can't compare those two. Didn't see Ziebell's game on the weekend but Walker was one of the few things for Crow's fans to smile about yesterday. As onballers I'd expect Ziebell and Rich to fight out this year's award and wouldn't be surprised to see Walker in the top 5.
I reckon Hill will feature in that Top 5 also and we haven't seen the likes of Natanui, Watts or Sidebottom yet ... Looks to be great influx of quality across the board, which is great for the comp.
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 12:49 pm
by HH3
Zeibell should definately win the Rising Star this year. Im pretty sure i called it in the Rising Star thread a while ago too.
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 12:51 pm
by HH3
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 12:52 pm
by Dirko
hackham_hawk_3 wrote:Zeibell should definately win the Rising Star this year. Im pretty sure i called it in the Rising Star thread a while ago too.
I think Rich or Beams may have a fair go too.....
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 1:49 pm
by Dutchy
Constance_Perm wrote:Dutchy wrote:Season Averages
Walker - 9 Possies, 4 marks, 1 tackle
Ziebell - 18 possies, 5 marks, 3 tackles
And JZ is a year younger than Walker and hasnt had the benefit of a year in the SANFL
And JZ played in a winning team, surely that makes a huge difference also
And JZ is a completely different type of player .. Being a ball player so he should get more of it, whats the goal tally between the 2?
Point being Walker has had one good week, in a losing side
Ziebell has been fantastic all year - you cant give awards out for one good week
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 1:53 pm
by Pup
Dutchy wrote:Constance_Perm wrote:Dutchy wrote:Season Averages
Walker - 9 Possies, 4 marks, 1 tackle
Ziebell - 18 possies, 5 marks, 3 tackles
And JZ is a year younger than Walker and hasnt had the benefit of a year in the SANFL
And JZ played in a winning team, surely that makes a huge difference also
And JZ is a completely different type of player .. Being a ball player so he should get more of it, whats the goal tally between the 2?
Point being Walker has had one good week, in a losing side
Ziebell has been fantastic all year - you cant give awards out for one good week
I am all for Ziebell getting nominated but yes you can give out nominations for one good week. How do we nominate players after round 1? or how did Barham get a nomination after his first game?
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 1:56 pm
by JK
Dutchy wrote:Constance_Perm wrote:Dutchy wrote:Season Averages
Walker - 9 Possies, 4 marks, 1 tackle
Ziebell - 18 possies, 5 marks, 3 tackles
And JZ is a year younger than Walker and hasnt had the benefit of a year in the SANFL
And JZ played in a winning team, surely that makes a huge difference also
And JZ is a completely different type of player .. Being a ball player so he should get more of it, whats the goal tally between the 2?
Point being Walker has had one good week, in a losing side
Ziebell has been fantastic all year - you cant give awards out for one good week
Completely agree mate, and for that same reason I don't think Walker will win the Award, but we are talking about a NOMINATION for a particular round of footy, meaning previous performances shouldn't come into the equation.
Im not trying to argue that Ziebell has contributed more for his team this year, I agree (IMO) that he has (although same stats presented to me on Walker last week were quite eye opening).
Still think you can present a case for Walker's season being good for a Rookie though.
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 2:00 pm
by Booney
I think Walker could develop into a quality player, butr I think at the moment the kid ( I amphasise kid ) is so wrapped up in playing as an AFL FF he is not looking at the game around him. I may be wrong, wouldn't be the first time.
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 3:04 pm
by Sorry Dude
SJABC wrote:hackham_hawk_3 wrote:Zeibell should definately win the Rising Star this year. Im pretty sure i called it in the Rising Star thread a while ago too.
I think Rich or Beams may have a fair go too.....
rich will be the only one that will push it as beams is injured at the moment. will be very interesting though

Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Mon May 11, 2009 7:53 pm
by the big bang
Dutchy wrote:Constance_Perm wrote:Dutchy wrote:Season Averages
Walker - 9 Possies, 4 marks, 1 tackle
Ziebell - 18 possies, 5 marks, 3 tackles
And JZ is a year younger than Walker and hasnt had the benefit of a year in the SANFL
And JZ played in a winning team, surely that makes a huge difference also
And JZ is a completely different type of player .. Being a ball player so he should get more of it, whats the goal tally between the 2?
Point being Walker has had one good week, in a losing side
Ziebell has been fantastic all year - you cant give awards out for one good week
they did just that for c'woods jaxson barham!! got nominated after his debut game! and i though JZ shoulda got nominated that week too!
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

Posted:
Tue May 12, 2009 10:10 am
by rogernumber10
Ziebell is this week's nomination.All the North supporters on the site can now be calm
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Tue May 12, 2009 10:59 am
by JK
rogernumber10 wrote:Ziebell is this week's nomination.All the North supporters on the site can now be calm
Im sure both of them will be

Thanks for that mate, a very worth nominee and favourite for the award imho.
Re: I present to you the next AFL superstar

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Tue May 12, 2009 11:08 am
by Dutchy