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AFL players becoming soccer sooks

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:26 pm
by old moz
new trend in AFL , any time a player gets hit in the upper body he goes to ground holding his head trying to "milk' a free kick. sorry, but to me this is as bad as any soccer player falling down and behaving as if he has a broken leg, when in fact no contact has been made. another reason AFL is removing itself from the game we love

Re: AFL players becoming soccer sooks

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:46 pm
by JK
old moz wrote:new trend in AFL , any time a player gets hit in the upper body he goes to ground holding his head trying to "milk' a free kick. sorry, but to me this is as bad as any soccer player falling down and behaving as if he has a broken leg, when in fact no contact has been made. another reason AFL is removing itself from the game we love


Been happening for the 30 years Ive been watching footy, players have and always will play for free kicks .. The way the umps used to reduce the incidence of occurence was be aware of who the regular stages were and then give them nothing.

Re: AFL players becoming soccer sooks

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:02 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
Constance_Perm wrote:
old moz wrote:new trend in AFL , any time a player gets hit in the upper body he goes to ground holding his head trying to "milk' a free kick. sorry, but to me this is as bad as any soccer player falling down and behaving as if he has a broken leg, when in fact no contact has been made. another reason AFL is removing itself from the game we love


Been happening for the 30 years Ive been watching footy, players have and always will play for free kicks .. The way the umps used to reduce the incidence of occurence was be aware of who the regular stages were and then give them nothing.


Yep, it's nothing new in footy, it's just not as pre-meditated as in soccer (it's more an individual thing rather than a team tactic) ... but no less annoying. I'd love to see free kicks given for putting on an act.

Re: AFL players becoming soccer sooks

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:23 pm
by old moz
agree that trying to con the ump has been around since moses was a boy but this has got to the stage where it is a "preformance' equal to what most of us dislike about the 'dive' in soccer

Re: AFL players becoming soccer sooks

PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:29 pm
by JK
old moz wrote:agree that trying to con the ump has been around since moses was a boy but this has got to the stage where it is a "preformance' equal to what most of us dislike about the 'dive' in soccer


I can understand your frustration mate, Ive never really had a problem with it in the past, but have been annoyed a couple of times this year ... I kinda think though, the umps are already over-burdened by the number of rules, rule changes and interpretations that adding to that by having to decide whether a player was legitimately infringed or not, could lead to more bad than good.

Re: AFL players becoming soccer sooks

PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:19 am
by Adelaide Hawk
Yes, there would be a problem developing with inconsistancies. I recall back in the late 70s - early 80s, Norwood had a player named Greg Turbill who opposition supporters thought played for free kicks, whereas the truth was his knees were shot and he couldn't bend properly. Late in his career, as he was bending for the ball, if he received the slightest nudge from behind and it would cause him to topple over as his legs were almost straight.

It would be hard for umpires to know for certain if a player was putting it on. I do realise there are cases (and certain players) who really bung on an act, but unless it can be policed with consistency, we are probably best not to penalise at all.

I actually played under a coach who wouldn't allow any of his players to milk frees. His theory was that if the free wasn't given, while you were lying on the ground the team was reduced to 17 men.

Re: AFL players becoming soccer sooks

PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:26 am
by Voice
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Yes, there would be a problem developing with inconsistancies. I recall back in the late 70s - early 80s, Norwood had a player named Greg Turbill who opposition supporters thought played for free kicks, whereas the truth was his knees were shot and he couldn't bend properly. Late in his career, as he was bending for the ball, if he received the slightest nudge from behind and it would cause him to topple over as his legs were almost straight.

It would be hard for umpires to know for certain if a player was putting it on. I do realise there are cases (and certain players) who really bung on an act, but unless it can be policed with consistency, we are probably best not to penalise at all.

I actually played under a coach who wouldn't allow any of his players to milk frees. His theory was that if the free wasn't given, while you were lying on the ground the team was reduced to 17 men.

No disrespect intended to anyone with an ailment but surely this would've been quite funny to see.

Re: AFL players becoming soccer sooks

PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 1:17 am
by Adelaide Hawk
Voice wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Yes, there would be a problem developing with inconsistancies. I recall back in the late 70s - early 80s, Norwood had a player named Greg Turbill who opposition supporters thought played for free kicks, whereas the truth was his knees were shot and he couldn't bend properly. Late in his career, as he was bending for the ball, if he received the slightest nudge from behind and it would cause him to topple over as his legs were almost straight.

It would be hard for umpires to know for certain if a player was putting it on. I do realise there are cases (and certain players) who really bung on an act, but unless it can be policed with consistency, we are probably best not to penalise at all.

I actually played under a coach who wouldn't allow any of his players to milk frees. His theory was that if the free wasn't given, while you were lying on the ground the team was reduced to 17 men.

No disrespect intended to anyone with an ailment but surely this would've been quite funny to see.


Pity you never saw him play, his courage was extraordinary. Most players couldn't have played if their knees were like his. To captain the 82 premiership side and play like he did that season was amazing to watch.

Re: AFL players becoming soccer sooks

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:09 am
by MatteeG
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Yes, there would be a problem developing with inconsistancies. I recall back in the late 70s - early 80s, Norwood had a player named Greg Turbill who opposition supporters thought played for free kicks,


You also had Michael Aish... :twisted: