Fremantle

[NFC]

Absolute joke.

[Voice]

We won't let my wife see this thread or that I commented in it but they are causing me an enormous amount of pain. They are a rabble. Even with all the experience they got rid of last year, if you look over their list they look like a very talented squad.
Look at the way they play and they look like hacks.
They cause my wife alot of pain which in turn causes me to have crap Sundays, not something i like when i have to go back to work early monday morning.
They'll lose Pav if they don't snap out of it. Lazy, unaccountable and slow are words that come to mind.

[NFC]

I think the words is overused but...

Culture.

There is none, well there is, a losing one. They're the biggest nothing club in the competition.

[LBT]

I think the words is overused but...

Culture.

There is none, well there is, a losing one. They're the biggest nothing club in the competition.

Too much of an Essendon influence, sucessful in ten team melbourne, horrible in a West Australian context.

[tiger07andbeyond]

I think the words is overused but...

Culture.

There is none, well there is, a losing one. They're the biggest nothing club in the competition.

They have nothing and they are nothing..... p1ss them off!!

[Voice]

They'll never piss them off as they consistently have over 40,000 members, make a profit every year, unlike some other teams (not naming any names, Port, oops).
They need to get a WA coach who knows how to get them up.

[tiger07andbeyond]

They need to get a WA coach who knows how to get them up.

Stormy Summers

[McAlmanac]

Mark Harvey - Top 10 Dumbest Australians.

[Dirko]

So if they knock off Adelaide next week what would it make them ?

[JK]

LOL Beat me to it Jabber, I wouldn't be knocking them yet as a Crows supporter (timing being the only issue, the point made to commence this thread is valid regardless of next weeks result IMHO)

[NFC]

So if they knock off Adelaide next week what would it make them ?

They'll probably win, so what?

Then they'll go back to losing every game they should win for a month before pulling off an upset and restarting the cycle.

[howgoesit]

i know everyone bags these poor buggers but they dont get the credit they deserve...... they have a very important role within the AFL as being the 16th team that provides the other 15 clubs with a hit out rather than having a bye. no one likes the week off so with freo giving up their time is fantastic

well done freo

[NFC]

Do they kepe hiring dud coaches or are they destined to fail because of the culture of the club?

[Interceptor]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/fremantle-needs-a-backbone-20090406-9tl9.html

[westozfalcon]

They'll be alright. They've finally rid themselves of a load of dead wood in the likes of Bell, McManus, Matthew Carr etc and they'll be better for it.

There's a few clubs in worse shape than Freo (both on and off the field) at the moment.

[Brad]

I personally don't rate Harvey as a coach but agree getting rid of dead wood was good, Josh Carr included.

[Pup]

They'll be alright. They've finally rid themselves of a load of dead wood in the likes of Bell, McManus, Matthew Carr etc and they'll be better for it.

There's a few clubs in worse shape than Freo (both on and off the field) at the moment.

Exactly, were always going to have a quiet season. The experience they lost during the off season has been replaced with youngsters who have not played at this level before so i am not sure why people expected to rise up the ladder.

Got some promising young players who need the exposure and will be better for it.

[haloman]

They'll be alright. They've finally rid themselves of a load of dead wood in the likes of Bell, McManus, Matthew Carr etc and they'll be better for it.

There's a few clubs in worse shape than Freo (both on and off the field) at the moment.

Exactly, were always going to have a quiet season. The experience they lost during the off season has been replaced with youngsters who have not played at this level before so i am not sure why people expected to rise up the ladder.

Got some promising young players who need the exposure and will be better for it.

They keep recruiting has been rejects from other clubs......... that's there problem in a nut shell. They either recruit guys with heaps of talent and no ticker (tarrent, headland are good examples) or guys with plenty of heart for a contest but bugger all skills (Soloman, Carr, again good examples) Yes......they recruited Modra and Bell who were pritty good for them........but at what cost!!!! Was one prelimanary final worth all the money, time, energy, resorces and bulls*it associated with picking up rejects from other clubs. I know Bell was far from a reject................but he's about the only one I can think of theat Freo have picked up from other clubs that wasn't!!! Worse..........how can you build a culture of your own when you constantly bring in players from other clubs? If a player gets traded from Fremantle to Collingwood...........he soon toes the line and falls in with their culture. (Medhurst as an example) What the hell was Tarrant supposed to do when he turned up at the Fremantle Footy Clubs doorstep? What exactly are they playing for????? The only thing Fremantle players are playing for there is themselves because there is nothing else above that worth working hard for. So they appear selfish as a group on the field and we bag them. Fremantle, the footy club, really only have themselves to blame. They really need to go back to scratch, trade has beens for draft picks, go young and build a team and a culture from scratch. And they should have done that 10 years ago...

[Gozu]

^ Excellent post.

[westozfalcon]

When speaking of Fremantle, the term ‘culture’ often crops up in a negative sense.

People, who seemingly don’t understand what the word culture means infer that because a club hasn’t achieved much, there’s got to be something wrong with its ‘culture’. For them culture equates to success.

Culture actually refers to behaviours and belief characteristics. In this sense I don’t think there’s much wrong with Fremantle’s culture at all. They have a big band of passionate supporters ( they support their team more vociferously than West Coast Eagles fans ) and have a membership of 40,000.

So, just because you've got a team of poor footballers and have had incompetent coaches and administrators it doesn’t necessarily mean there’s something wrong with your club culture.

I think much of Freo’s dearth of success is attributable to them trying to become too ‘Victorian’. They did this by appointing Victorian coaches and recruiting recycled players from over east.

When they started out they had Gerard Neesham at the helm who had innovative methods and put his faith in local talent. In fact the vast majority of inaugural Dockers were players that Neesham had coached or observed at close quarters in the WAFL. And though inexperienced they acquitted themselves well. The team had a real WA flavour which is how it should be.

I think they need to stop turning to mature players who couldn’t cut the mustard at other AFL clubs and start concentrating on youth, in particular WA youth.