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Stupid, stupid woman. Apparantly Setanta should have been sent back to I reland and/or charged with GBH. The AFL are blazer wearing snobs, and the rugby codes are tougher on on and off field violence than the AFL.

Someone please king hit her!

That's the reason why I no longer get the Advertiser / Sunday Mail delivered.

And to think her old man was pretty credible.....

I first heard of wilson when she was on "the fat" on abc tv a few years back and thought she made sense occasionly but was mainly there to bounce off tony squires and let everyone else talk about sport. Ever since her brief episode on the NRL footy show, things just seem to go from bad to worse with her and she just volley's of tirade after useless tirade.
spose she does get the punters talkin though.

Have an open mind Guys.

She does make sense, think about it...?

Try not to look at it from a SA point of view...?

Dogger, sorry mate, that makes no sense.
About as much sense as her column.

FWIW - she rags on about how the AFL isn't setting an example and yet Nick Maxwell got a month long suspension for that bump against the Eagles. She sees what she wants to see.

Dog_ger wrote:Have an open mind Guys.

She does make sense, think about it...?

Try not to look at it from a SA point of view...?

Considering you can punch on in rugby and not get suspended, I find it a bit rich that she describes Setanta's actions as criminal and argues that the AFL are soft for not suspending him for longer.

wot did she say???

The Big Shrek wrote:

Dog_ger wrote:Have an open mind Guys.

She does make sense, think about it...?

Try not to look at it from a SA point of view...?

Considering you can punch on in rugby and not get suspended, I find it a bit rich that she describes Setanta's actions as criminal and argues that the AFL are soft for not suspending him for longer.

Well said. And with the RL State of Origin, biffo is expected and marketed as part of the spectacle. Given that the sport (RL) is an unbelievable bore, its no surprise though. The game itself is like watching grass grow.

People really have to stop paying attention to the media. It only encourages them.

i think he should of got delisted.I know i wont be the last time team mates will have a punch up.But what he did king hit his team mate and lay a boot in is a bit low.I think if it happened at other clubs majority of the clubs would of delisted him.

The Big Shrek wrote:Stupid, stupid woman. Apparantly Setanta should have been sent back to I reland and/or charged with GBH. The AFL are blazer wearing snobs, and the rugby codes are tougher on on and off field violence than the AFL.

Someone please king hit her!

She 's right!
Decking a player and kicking him when he is down is beyond the pale. It is not just toughness in competition and fair body contact. It is assault.
If you play the game you consent to the body contact that is part of the game, but not to assault outside the rules.

Doing it to a team mate is worse - whatever is between them outright assault between team mates is bad for the team, especially when it shows up in public.
It's like shagging a team mate's wife or girlfriend.

Oh what have I said.. They do that all the time, too, don't they...
Can't expect responsible adult behaviour can we.

Psyber wrote:

The Big Shrek wrote:Stupid, stupid woman. Apparantly Setanta should have been sent back to I reland and/or charged with GBH. The AFL are blazer wearing snobs, and the rugby codes are tougher on on and off field violence than the AFL.

Someone please king hit her!

She 's right!
Decking a player and kicking him when he is down is beyond the pale. It is not just toughness in competition and fair body contact. It is assault.
If you play the game you consent to the body contact that is part of the game, but not to assault outside the rules.

Doing it to a team mate is worse - whatever is between them outright assault between team mates is bad for the team, especially when it shows up in public.
It's like shagging a team mate's wife or girlfriend.

Oh what have I said.. They do that all the time, too, don't they...
Can't expect responsible adult behaviour can we.

People have dust ups all the time, the legal system wouldn't cope if everyone was charged with assault. Just because technically it was criminal does not mean other people should stick there noses in. AFL should but out and let Carlton deal with it.

I don't disagree Psyb.
However, her column attacked Setanta and the AFL, and by extension Aussie rules.
If she'd stuck to the real issue, which was Setanta's tantrum, I wouldn't have had an issue on the piece.
However, she took the opportunity to again rail against the AFL and blokes in general - again.

Dogwatcher wrote:I don't disagree Psyb.
However, her column attacked Setanta and the AFL, and by extension Aussie rules.
If she'd stuck to the real issue, which was Setanta's tantrum, I wouldn't have had an issue on the piece.
However, she took the opportunity to again rail against the AFL and blokes in general - again.

Fair point. I hadn't seen her article so I was talking in general principle about the physicality of sport not being an excuse for assault.

The Big Shrek wrote: People have dust ups all the time, the legal system wouldn't cope if everyone was charged with assault. Just because technically it was criminal does not mean other people should stick there noses in. AFL should but out and let Carlton deal with it.

Nobody I know does. It would be seen as evidence of severe immaturity in my circle if it occurred.
I have even seen a "dust up" in my circle of acquaintances since we were all about 14 and grew up.

I did hit someone in 1967, as a last resort after weeks of verbal provocation, a short jolt to the solar plexus as I went past while he was being abusive. It was seen only by one of his mates, who came up later and said, "He deserved that." I'd tried to avoid doing it for weeks.

As much as we can't condone what Sentanta did, it really isn't as isolated as a lot of people like to believe. These people are very competitive, and in a list of 40 plus people, it's impossible to get on with everyone. Footy clubs are like families. Some family members get on well, others don't.

I've seen many cases over the years of team mates getting into each other on the track or over a few beers in the clubrooms. Back in the 1980s, I know of two very high profile team mates who were ordered off the track to settle their differences in the rooms .. and they did so in no uncertain terms.

There have been cases of quick bowlers bowling beamers and bouncers from 18 yards at less favoured team members. I recall one incident at my club where two head strong state players were in each others faces in the nets, and practice had to be stopped.

The Sentanta incident got caught on camera, so it is new to a lot of people who haven't been involved with these guys on the track. Not a big enough deal for Carlton to even consider sacking him.

Adelaide Hawk wrote:As much as we can't condone what Sentanta did, it really isn't as isolated as a lot of people like to believe. These people are very competitive, and in a list of 40 plus people, it's impossible to get on with everyone. Footy clubs are like families. Some family members get on well, others don't.

I've seen many cases over the years of team mates getting into each other on the track or over a few beers in the clubrooms. Back in the 1980s, I know of two very high profile team mates who were ordered off the track to settle their differences in the rooms .. and they did so in no uncertain terms.

There have been cases of quick bowlers bowling beamers and bouncers from 18 yards at less favoured team members. I recall one incident at my club where two head strong state players were in each others faces in the nets, and practice had to be stopped.

The Sentanta incident got caught on camera, so it is new to a lot of people who haven't been involved with these guys on the track. Not a big enough deal for Carlton to even consider sacking him.

Adelaide Hawk wrote:As much as we can't condone what Sentanta did, it really isn't as isolated as a lot of people like to believe. These people are very competitive, and in a list of 40 plus people, it's impossible to get on with everyone. Footy clubs are like families. Some family members get on well, others don't.

I've seen many cases over the years of team mates getting into each other on the track or over a few beers in the clubrooms. Back in the 1980s, I know of two very high profile team mates who were ordered off the track to settle their differences in the rooms .. and they did so in no uncertain terms.

There have been cases of quick bowlers bowling beamers and bouncers from 18 yards at less favoured team members. I recall one incident at my club where two head strong state players were in each others faces in the nets, and practice had to be stopped.

The Sentanta incident got caught on camera, so it is new to a lot of people who haven't been involved with these guys on the track. Not a big enough deal for Carlton to even consider sacking him.

Put in that context I guess it is, perhaps, "normal" behaviour statistically for the people who inhabit that alien [to me] environment.
That sort of thing just doesn't happen anywhere I've been since my teens - the competition is there, and spats occur but they are only ever verbal.
I made a comment in another thread about some of us living in different worlds, but it just caused puzzlement, but this reinforces it.
It reminds me of a guy who told me "everybody smokes dope" and wouldn't believe me when I said no one in my social circle did.

What really appalled me in this case was the kicking the guy when he was on the ground...

The Big Shrek wrote:Someone please king hit her!

Give her a real reason to whine about violence I guess.

Dogwatcher wrote:I don't disagree Psyb.
However, her column attacked Setanta and the AFL, and by extension Aussie rules.
If she'd stuck to the real issue, which was Setanta's tantrum, I wouldn't have had an issue on the piece.
However, she took the opportunity to again rail against the AFL and blokes in general - again.

DW not sticking up for a fellow journo, it must have been bad journalism