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Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

Posted:
Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:05 pm
by Mr66
Shane Crawford signed on for another year with Hawthorn last week then
told the club on Friday (7th) that tendinitis had forced him to quit.
http://www.ninmsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=662509
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

Posted:
Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:06 pm
by Thiele
Well done Crawf on an excellent career
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

Posted:
Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:45 pm
by hearts on fire
Thiele wrote:Well done Crawf on an excellent career
yep, a legend of the game.
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

Posted:
Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:54 pm
by the joker
isnt the final list Lodgement on the 31st of october, so the draft order is worked out??? does that mean they will have one player less on their list next year. because you cant Upgrade rookies for Retirements?
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:00 pm
by GWW
the joker wrote:isnt the final list Lodgement on the 31st of october, so the draft order is worked out??? does that mean they will have one player less on their list next year. because you cant Upgrade rookies for Retirements?
I'm not certain here, but i'd say they'd just have one more pick at the end of the draft, or if they skip that, maybe an extra one in the PSD.
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

Posted:
Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:59 pm
by Dirko
The other point is wouldn't Crawfs salary for 09 be included is the cap ?
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:03 pm
by GWW
SJABC wrote:The other point is wouldn't Crawfs salary for 09 be included is the cap ?
Thats a good question, going by the article at the top of the thread, he apparently had signed a contract. I guess as he retired, Hawthorn may try to follow the Crows' lead with McGregor who's salary i think may not be included in the AFC's salary cap for next year due to retirement, not a club decision.
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:23 am
by MatteeG
Even if Crawf played next season he would have been on the veterans list- I think their part of their salary isnt part of the cap? (correct me if I am wrong).
Anyway that doesnt matter- Cheers Crawf for a great career. A true champ of the game.
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:54 pm
by the big bang
yeh, i dont get this veterans list thing? if there is any one out there that can elaborate on the subject, please do.
what qualifies a veteran?
does the player have to be at one club for X amount of years before being eligable, or is it just be in the league for X amount of years??
and does a rookie listed players salary count??
and does the club pay any NSW institue kids anything?
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

Posted:
Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:42 pm
by rod_rooster
Shattered wouldn't adequately describe my feelings on this. What a truly great career. Absolute champion of the game and he deserved to go out on top. I am struggling to imagine Hawthorn without Shane Crawford. The club will be poorer for his retirement no doubt.
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:20 pm
by Punk Rooster
rod_rooster wrote:The club will be poorer for his retirement no doubt.
you are quite correct, fiscally speaking...

Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:25 pm
by the big bang
rod_rooster wrote:Shattered wouldn't adequately describe my feelings on this. What a truly great career. Absolute champion of the game and he deserved to go out on top. I am struggling to imagine Hawthorn without Shane Crawford. The club will be poorer for his retirement no doubt.
well said rod. totally agree.
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:01 pm
by heater31
Now whilst I only saw a snippet of the interview Shane gave WWOS this morning but did he actually sign???? He gave the impression that he turned up to complete the paper work, then told them straight up that he didn't want to go on
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

Posted:
Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:07 pm
by Rik E Boy
It's a woman's prerogative to change her mind.....
regards,
REB
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

Posted:
Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:06 pm
by MatteeG
You are such a bitch REB..

Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:37 am
by CoverKing
The veterans list - i think each club can only have a maximum or 2 players on it. It may be 3. If the club has for example 4 people qualify for it, they will obviously take the higher paid players and put them on the veterans list. This is because i think only half the players salary is put onto the clubs salary cap. The player has to play at that one club i believe, hence why the king didn qualify for the crows. Rookie list players do have their fee attributed to the salary cap and the NSW scholarship holders are exactly that, a scholarship that is only around 10 k per yer (not only, thats a fair amount at 16 years of age). The NSW scholarship holders do not have there fees count towards to a clubs salary cap as it was an inititive from the AFL to broaden the game within NSW and try and keep young and talented players in AFL and allow them to have a greater exposure to AFL football.
Hope that helps! thats all that i am aware of on these situations.
PS: im hoping crawford is on the footy show every week now, but wat a player -you will be sorely missed by all.
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:19 pm
by the big bang
CoverKing wrote:The veterans list - i think each club can only have a maximum or 2 players on it. It may be 3. If the club has for example 4 people qualify for it, they will obviously take the higher paid players and put them on the veterans list. This is because i think only half the players salary is put onto the clubs salary cap. The player has to play at that one club i believe, hence why the king didn qualify for the crows. Rookie list players do have their fee attributed to the salary cap and the NSW scholarship holders are exactly that, a scholarship that is only around 10 k per yer (not only, thats a fair amount at 16 years of age). The NSW scholarship holders do not have there fees count towards to a clubs salary cap as it was an inititive from the AFL to broaden the game within NSW and try and keep young and talented players in AFL and allow them to have a greater exposure to AFL football.
Hope that helps! thats all that i am aware of on these situations.
PS: im hoping crawford is on the footy show every week now, but wat a player -you will be sorely missed by all.
cheers mate. and good point on crawf on the footy show every week. i rekon he'll have just as good a career in the media as he did on the field. give crawf, billy and glen manton their own footy show!!!
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:27 pm
by CoverKing
yeah with special appearances from the FEV and RICHO and THOMPSON. i think them three are 3 big fellas that hilarious. some may disagree with fevola and richo but thats my opinion. Is it time crawford or billy replaces sam newmann now??
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:34 pm
by the big bang
CoverKing wrote: Is it time crawford or billy replaces sam newmann now??
i rekon you just opened a massive can of worms there mate!
Re: Crawford signs on for one more year - then changes mind

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Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:12 pm
by CoverKing
the_big_bang wrote:CoverKing wrote: Is it time crawford or billy replaces sam newmann now??
i rekon you just opened a massive can of worms there mate!
that was the plan
